Romney, Obama dead even in swing states

It's becoming clear now: Romeny will Attack the Problems while Obama will focus on Attacking the People.



It's time for real change not more Obamafraud.


Romney 2012! For a Better America!

Obama 'Devastating' For Civil Liberties



October 10, 2011

Jonathan Turley argues in a recent op-ed in the Los Angeles Times that "the election of Barack Obama may stand as one of the single most devastating events in our history for civil liberties."



So Jonathan Turley, he's a law professor at George Washington University. His piece, "Obama: A Disaster for Civil Liberties," ran last month in the Los Angeles Times, and he joins us now in Studio 3A. So you say of President Obama that his election may be one of the single most devastating events in our history for civil liberties? That is very, very strong language, Jonathan.


JONATHAN TURLEY:
It is a strong language, but I think civil libertarians are coming to grips with what is really a building disaster for our movement, and it's been a rather difficult process. You know, I have a large civil liberties blog, and there's a lot of soul-searching among civil libertarians about what exactly happened. But we are engaging in a sense of collective denial when we deal with President Obama.

DONVAN:
You mean you're not talking about it publicly.

TURLEY:
Yeah. And I think that's part of the purpose of this column, is to address the fact that President Obama is a perfect nightmare when it comes to civil liberties. He not only adopted most of President Bush's policies in the civil liberties areas when it comes to terrorism, but he actually expanded on them. He outdid George Bush.

And they range. His position on torture and refusing to have people investigated or prosecuted for torture, on privacy lawsuits. He pushed aggressively for the dismissal of dozens of lawsuits brought by private interest organizations. He's for immunity for people who engaged in warrantless surveillance. He has fought standing for people even to be able to get courts to review his programs, much like George Bush. He kept military tribunals and the authority to make the discretionary choice of sending some people to a real court, some people to a military tribunal. He has asserted the right to kill U.S. citizens based solely on his own discretion, that he believes them to be a threat to the country.

His administration has, once again, as with the Bush administration, cited secret law, that - and including a case of assassinating citizens - a law that we're not allowed to see, but we have to trust them...




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The Exasperation of the Democratic Billionaire


Real-estate and newspaper mogul Mortimer Zuckerman voted for Obama but began seeing trouble as soon as the stimulus went into the pockets of municipal unions.


By JAMES FREEMAN
New York

'It's as if he doesn't like people," says real-estate mogul and New York Daily News owner Mortimer Zuckerman of the president of the United States. Barack Obama doesn't seem to care for individuals, elaborates Mr. Zuckerman, though the president enjoys addressing millions of them on television.

The Boston Properties CEO is trying to understand why Mr. Obama has made little effort to build relationships on Capitol Hill or negotiate a bipartisan economic plan. A longtime supporter of the Democratic Party, Mr. Zuckerman wrote in these pages two months ago that the entire business community was "pleading for some kind of adult supervision" in Washington and "desperate for strong leadership." Writing soon after the historic downgrade of U.S. Treasury debt by Standard & Poor's, he wrote, "I long for a triple-A president to run a triple-A country."

His words struck a chord. When I visit Mr. Zuckerman this week in his midtown Manhattan office, he reports that three people approached him at dinner the previous evening to discuss his August op-ed. Among business executives who supported Barack Obama in 2008, he says, "there is enormously widespread anxiety over the political leadership of the country." Mr. Zuckerman reports that among Democrats, "The sense is that the policies of this government have failed.... What they say about [Mr. Obama] when he's not in the room, so to speak, is astonishing."


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rugby is another puppet for the cons. This time, the baggers pulling his strings.

Obama: Divisive/Clueless


It may seem odd that most of the targeted rich people had nothing to do with creating the financial crisis. But as Mr. Zuckerman ponders the Occupy Wall Street movement, he concludes that "the door to it was opened by the Obama administration, going after the 'millionaires and billionaires' as if everybody is a millionaire and a billionaire and they didn't earn it.... To fan that flame of populist anger I think is very divisive and very dangerous for this country."


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Townhall statement from audience: Obama should be tried for treason.

After the fact statement from rugby: No, he shouldn't.

Why won't yellow confront the con kooks?

Obama fans flames of Division


Zuckerman argues that the protesters are people with a legitimate grievance, as the country suffers high unemployment and stagnant middle-class incomes.

It is a subject he has obviously studied at length, and he explains how the real unemployment rate is actually well above the official level of 9.1%, which only measures people who have applied for a job within the previous four weeks. In fact, he says, unemployment has even surged beyond the Department of Labor's "U-6" number of 16.5% that has received increasing attention lately because it includes people who have given up looking for work within the past year, plus people who have been cut back from full-time employees to part-timers.

Mr. Zuckerman says that when you also consider the labor-force participation rate and the so-called "birth-death series" that measures business starts and failures, the real U.S. unemployment rate is now 20%. His voice rising with equal parts anger and sadness, he exclaims, "That's not America!"

It certainly isn't the America that Mr. Zuckerman discovered when he moved south from Canada to study at Wharton and Harvard Law School, graduating from both in the early 1960s. He reports feeling immediately at home and says he never considered returning "because of the sheer openness and energy of life in America."

The U.S. "has fundamentally great qualities," he says. "It's a society that welcomes talent, nourishes talent, admires talent ... and rewards talent." But he sees "potentially catastrophic" political and fiscal problems. Mr. Zuckerman reports that when he was a young man, 50% of the top quartile of graduates from Canadian universities moved to the U.S. Now, he says, "I don't want my daughter telling me,'Dad, I want to move back to Canada because that's the land of opportunity.'"


That's a reality under Obama. The Food Stamp President.



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. Romney has to lose because America cannot be run as a cut-throat corporation

. Considering Romney's vow to follow Paul Ryan's social engineering plan, average and poor Americans would suffer extremely under a Romney president

. As CEO, Romney used to dissolved/killed weak companies to insure profits for more successful companies. So, as president, will Romney allow weak Americans to die in poverty in favor of fat-cats keeping all the money?

. Romney/Ryan vow to follow Europe's failed austerity policy

. Obama chose Stimulus and our Economy is turning around

. Europe chose Austerity policy and they are facing double-dip recession

. Let's go forward with something we KNOW works: Obama's policies!

Zuckerman on Obama: "I long for a triple-A president to run a triple-A country."


At that time he supported Mr. Obama's call for heavy spending on infrastructure. "But if you look at the make-up of the stimulus program," says Mr. Zuckerman, "roughly half of it went to state and local municipalities, which is in effect to the municipal unions which are at the core of the Democratic Party." He adds that "the Republicans understood this" and it diminished the chances for bipartisan legislating.

Then there was health-care reform: "Eighty percent of the country wanted them to get costs under control, not to extend the coverage. They used all their political capital to extend the coverage. I always had the feeling the country looked at that bill and said,'Well, he may be doing it because he wants to be a transformational president, but I want to get my costs down!'"

Mr. Zuckerman recalls reports of Mr. Obama consulting various historians on the qualities of a transformational president. "But remember, transformations can go up and they can go down."


Such arrogance coupled with ignorance.


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conservative crapola wrote:

rugby is another puppet for the cons. This time, the baggers pulling his strings.

We are all fortunate to have Mr Romney willing to return the White House to adult control. It has been a bumpy ride but the end of Pelosi/Obama social engineering experiment is near. Progressive insanity was a miserable substitute for effective leadership.

Our Divisive President Obama



Now comes the latest fight over Mr. Obama's jobs plan, which has as its centerpiece a tax increase on the wealthy with obvious populist appeal. Mr. Zuckerman supports raising taxes on the rich but says such a proposal cannot be taken seriously unless it's paired with other measures to grow the economy and restrain deficit spending. He also wonders why, if the president wanted to get a plan enacted, he didn't begin with private bipartisan discussions with House and Senate leaders, instead of another address to a joint session of Congress.

"Even if you want to do this to revive your support in the base, to revive your credibility on the issues of the economy and jobs, which has fallen off the table, this isn't going to accomplish it. Another speech from this guy?

The country knows this is just another speech. They understand it almost instantaneously, and his numbers have continued to go down for that reason. What the country wanted was some way of coming up with a solution."

The only solution Mr. Zuckerman sees now to juice the economy "is to broaden the tax base and simplify and lower tax [rates]. To me that will be as close to revenue-neutral as you're going to have so it isn't going to be seen as a budget buster."




Mr. Zuckerman sees a need for a cooperative effort like that of President Ronald Reagan and House Speaker Thomas "Tip" O'Neill when they reformed Social Security in 1983. That wasn't a permanent solution, of course, as Social Security needs more significant changes now, but Mr. Zuckerman sees it as a model of bipartisan progress.

Unprompted, he spends much of our discussion reminiscing about the Reagan presidency. Mr. Zuckerman has for years owned U.S. News and World Report, and in 1986 its Moscow correspondent Nicholas Daniloff was seized without warning by the KGB.

Mr. Zuckerman immediately flew to Russia but returned home when Soviet officials refused to release their new prisoner. "I worked in the White House for the next four weeks virtually every day and through that I met Reagan," says Mr. Zuckerman. Reagan secured Mr. Daniloff's release in a swap that included a Soviet spy held in the U.S.

"Reagan surprised me," says Mr. Zuckerman. "He got the point of every argument.... He was very decisive. And everybody loved working for him. They followed his lead because they really respected his decisiveness and his instincts."


No one trusts Obama. He Lies.


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The laughing liberal wrote:

......
Romney 2012! For a Better America!

. Romney's experience is limited to cut-throat strategies....

. Closing American factories and sending our jobs overseas is good for China and few American Fat-cats like himself, but not good for everyday Americans!

BREAKING: Obama foils an apparent plot by Al Qaeda's franchise in Yemen to bring down a commercial plane.

Dane Thorsen wrote:

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We are all fortunate to have Mr Romney willing to return the White House to adult control. It has been a bumpy ride but the end of Pelosi/Obama social engineering experiment is near. Progressive insanity was a miserable substitute for effective leadership.

Effective leadership murdered 4,500 American soldiers over a false premise. The cons need to grow up and stop playing I've Got a Secret.

DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:

. Romney has to lose because America cannot be run as a cut-throat corporation
. Considering Romney's vow to follow Paul Ryan's social engineering plan, average and poor Americans would suffer extremely under a Romney president
. As CEO, Romney used to dissolved/killed weak companies to insure profits for more successful companies. So, as president, will Romney allow weak Americans to die in poverty in favor of fat-cats keeping all the money?
. Romney/Ryan vow to follow Europe's failed austerity policy
. Obama chose Stimulus and our Economy is turning around
. Europe chose Austerity policy and they are facing double-dip recession
. Let's go forward with something we KNOW works: Obama's policies!

The Country is BROKE you idiot and it's not because of it being run like a business. It's Broke because of Azzhats like you and Obama that want to continue to borrow TRILLIONS from China on the Backs of our Children!


You and Obama are Filth!

Social Security fund slides into permanent deficit


By Stephen Ohlemacher,
Associated Press
Updated 1/27/2011

WASHINGTON — Social Security's finances are getting worse as the economy struggles to recover and millions of baby boomers stand at the brink of retirement.


This year alone, Social Security is projected to collect $45 billion less in payroll taxes than it pays out in retirement, disability and survivor benefits, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.


The deficits add a sense of urgency to efforts to improve Social Security's finances. For much of the past 30 years, Social Security has run big surpluses, which the government has borrowed to spend on other programs. Now that Social Security is running deficits, the federal government will have to find money elsewhere to help pay for retirement, disability and survivor benefits.

"It means that Social Security is increasingly adding to our long-term fiscal problem, and it's happening now," said Eugene Steuerle, a former Treasury official who is now a fellow at the Urban Institute think tank.

It's a bad time for the nation to be hit with more financial problems. The federal budget deficit will surge to a record $1.5 trillion flood of red ink this year, congressional budget experts estimated Wednesday.


A debt commission appointed by Obama has recommended a series of changes to improve Social Security's finances, including a gradual increase in the full retirement age, lower cost-of-living increases and a gradual increase in the threshold on the amount of income subject to the Social Security payroll tax.

Obama, however, has rejected all of the panel's recommendations.


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DangerousRiteWingCrusader wrote:

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. Romney's experience is limited to cut-throat strategies....
. Closing American factories and sending our jobs overseas is good for China and few American Fat-cats like himself, but not good for everyday Americans!

Romeny is a specialist in Turn-Arounds from bad to good. Obama is a Specialist in Wrecking everything he touches and setting the World Record for Debt and Deficits.

Obama is also the Only President to ASSASSINATE IT'S OWN CITIZENS Without ANY Due Process!

Sorry. Obama is Pure Filth and should be arrested.

The laughing liberal wrote:

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The Country is BROKE you idiot and it's not because of it being run like a business. It's Broke because of Azzhats like you and Obama that want to continue to borrow TRILLIONS from China on the Backs of our Children!
You and Obama are Filth!

The 'children' didn't dissuade bush from smoking the printing presses, cletus.

Dane Thorsen wrote:

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We are all fortunate to have Mr Romney willing to return the White House to adult control. It has been a bumpy ride but the end of Pelosi/Obama social engineering experiment is near. Progressive insanity was a miserable substitute for effective leadership.

Bush/Cheney were adults, but senile ones.

. Bush/Cheney, senile GOP adults, lead us into recession!

. Young Obama dug us out of Bush/Cheney's deep/dip $hit hole

. I'aint going back in there with Rmoney!

Obama the Cult: Devastates Civil Liberties


TURLEY:
Well, certainly. I supported Barack Obama. I wasn't very quiet about my support. I thought he was going to be a refreshing change to George Bush. But what has happened is that we have an election that's become a single-issue election, and that issue is Barack Obama. And he's an icon to both sides. But what's happened to the civil liberties movement is that we generally have a pendulum swing back in favor of civil liberties, which we were building towards after the Bush administration.

Polls were showing that citizens were opposed to many of the abuses, that they wanted to see more protections, and Barack Obama really rowed that way. He portrayed himself as a civil libertarian. And then when he proved to adopt many of Bush's positions and adopt even worse positions in some regards, it split the base of the civil liberties movement. There are many people that frankly cannot get themselves to oppose Barack Obama. They make a lot of excuse for him.

DONVAN:
You mean emotionally they can't do it?

TURLEY:
They can't emotionally, politically, personally. They just have a very difficult time opposing a man who's an icon and has made history - the first black president, but also the guy that replaced George Bush. And the result is something akin to the Stockholm syndrome, where you've got this identification with your captor. I mean, the Democratic Party is split, civil libertarians are split, and the Democratic Party itself is now viewed by most of libertarians as very hostile toward civil liberties.

Senators and members of the House, it turns out, were aware of many of these abuses and never informed people.

DONVAN:
Well, it's interesting one of the things you're saying is, in a sense, granting your point provisionally - that you're saying that he's getting away with it because it's just not enough of a hot issue toward the public at large. Or, if it is, people don't want to talk about it.



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