Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 20 comments on the Oct 12, 2011, CNN story titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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jesus christ

Calgary, Canada

#14483 Sep 2, 2012
Mormon women are great in bed. I've had pleasure to take lots of mormon girls virginity. Juicy.
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14484 Sep 2, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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Exactly. That is our current welfare system. Many use and abuse it because they feel that they are owed it. When it is actually there to help those who are unfortunate and actually need it.
Yes the welfare system is an entitlement program, what does that have to do with your entire belief system being based on an entitlement program?

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#14485 Sep 2, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Go ask your momma how many donkeys it took for her to make you. And I bet you acted all pious and holy at church today, didn't you? What pervert you are.
You are a habitual sociopathic lying hatefilled homosexual, who constantly fetishes on other peoples sex life, underwear, and pornography.

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YOU have no authority and no right to spread these hate filled lies. Yet you do so with a shrug of the shoulders...

YOU are a sicko.

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#14486 Sep 2, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Not going to waste my time on nutjobs who seem to be unable to read even the simplest English. Good luck with that.
YOU have no response... so you claim you are not going to waste your time... lol

You are a habitual sociopathic lying hatefilled homosexual, who constantly fetishes on other peoples sex life, underwear, and pornography.

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YOU have no authority and no right to spread these hate filled lies. Yet you do so with a shrug of the shoulders...

YOU are a sicko.

... that's my response to you.
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14487 Sep 2, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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Here we go again...
Okay (deep breath), let me ask you a question.
Let's say that you work. You work hard to make a living and provide for yourself and your family, okay? The US Government takes taxes out of your hard earned pay check to help those who are less fortunate. Now, some welfare recipient who doesn't have that same "work ethic" as you and doesn't work, yet is fully able to, lives off that because he feels the Government owes him. That doesn't bother you? Wouldn't you rather see it go to someone who actually needs it, rather than somebody who feels it's owed to them?
The problem with the welfare system goes much deeper than corruption. Just the fact that a welfare system is even needed shows the huge problem of society today. The civilization that paganism/sandusky is so proud that the christans shoved down or brought forth to the rest of the world. And now look at the mess created. This is what happens when you force a doctrine on others, what do you expect? Christians claim to be their brothers keeper but never stop complaining about it. You complain about the person who takes advantage of the system that you forced on them. Of course theres a problem with anyone who takes more than they need, but it's the lifestyle the christain elite created. The whole of civilization as you know it depends on constant consumption, but it seems as though you won't even allow your mind to go there.
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14488 Sep 2, 2012
PaganismCausesAIDS wrote:
<quoted text> It doesn't fit the evolutionarily successful pattern: it breeds evil in the extreme when a class of people who don't work attempt to enslave those who do.
You don't really get out much do you?
I see no reason to handle you with kid gloves anymore. You have no success pattern, you conquer and force assimilization, then complain that things aren't right, that somehow the christian belief went astray, when it was a mess to begin with. You think someone is trying to enslave you by not working, you are a very scared and scary person, who created the mess that you live in.
Livinginthelando fcrazy

Ozark, MO

#14489 Sep 2, 2012
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Yes the welfare system is an entitlement program, what does that have to do with your entire belief system being based on an entitlement program?
My entire belief system is not an entitlement program. You made the erroneous statement that it was.
PaganismCausesAI DS

Los Angeles, CA

#14490 Sep 2, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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I'm straight and married with children, assclown.
Same claim made by Sandusky, assclown. Your 'Why I'm not a Mormon' page has a big photo you yourself made up, of two queers dressed like missionaries french kissing at a queer rally.

Your constant claim of HATING your father is another BIG uptick on the 'it's a hate-filled closet atheist & queer' list of sociopath personality traits
PaganismCausesAI DS

Los Angeles, CA

#14491 Sep 2, 2012
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Yes the welfare system is an entitlement program, what does that have to do with your entire belief system being based on an entitlement program?
His isn't mandatory on people whether they want to be involved or not, like your atheist one. You hicks didn't really get that "Soviet Union comes crashing down with the daughters of the Russians selling themselves as prostitutes to escape the Atheist Socialist Utopia" thing, did you?
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14492 Sep 2, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Yes, all the women that Smith married were members of the church. Some were already married at the time he married them also. He would send their husbands on missions far away and then tell the women he had a vision from God that they should marry him also. After he married them and got tired of them, he would send them back to their husbands to support them. All the claims of children hasn't been resolved. But some have been proven not to be related to him. But we don't know what kind of birth control methods he may have been using to prevent pregnancy. He clearly wouldn't want a bunch of children running around to expose his activities. His so-called marriages wasn't exposed publicly until long after he was dead. But Brigham Young and many other leaders admitted they occurred, and testified he was sexually active with those women.
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They consider her an apostate.
Yes I'm aware of smith marrying other mens wives, while husbands were away on missions. But it's the women who've made these claims of children that i'm not familar with, what became of them, as far, as where they tossed from the church? Were they considered good god fearing mormons that lied for some kind of profit. Not trying to prove a point just curious. I didn't know of these claims till you folks started arguing about it. Now you've peaked my curiosity?

“Smokin”

Since: May 12

Strawberry Fields of Dreams

#14493 Sep 2, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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But Brigham Young and many other leaders admitted they occurred, and testified he was sexually active with those women.
Can you show where this info came from? I would be very interested in reading it, thanks.
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14494 Sep 2, 2012
PaganismCausesAIDS wrote:
<quoted text> His isn't mandatory on people whether they want to be involved or not, like your atheist one. You hicks didn't really get that "Soviet Union comes crashing down with the daughters of the Russians selling themselves as prostitutes to escape the Atheist Socialist Utopia" thing, did you?
Your whole civilization, that christians created is mandtory. People are bound to rebel, you've spread throughout the entire world now and still don't understand the mess that you created. Accorrding to your beliefs, its mandatory that someday all will be judged. That only makes it true to you. Not all, who don't prescribe to your beliefs are atheists, but you are the one that demands that utopia exists in some far away place, because it says so in a book and all mankind can attain it. Yet, you are unable to provide it for yourself. Why should you receive something that you can't provide for yourself
Livinginthelando fcrazy

Ozark, MO

#14495 Sep 2, 2012
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with the welfare system goes much deeper than corruption. Just the fact that a welfare system is even needed shows the huge problem of society today. The civilization that paganism/sandusky is so proud that the christans shoved down or brought forth to the rest of the world. And now look at the mess created. This is what happens when you force a doctrine on others, what do you expect? Christians claim to be their brothers keeper but never stop complaining about it. You complain about the person who takes advantage of the system that you forced on them. Of course theres a problem with anyone who takes more than they need, but it's the lifestyle the christain elite created. The whole of civilization as you know it depends on constant consumption, but it seems as though you won't even allow your mind to go there.
Do you think freely, or are you "forced" to think a certain way? I don't believe you are forced by the Mormon Church, or any other religion for that matter to think and believe as they do. If you say that you are, you're playing "the game" again.

Now, as far as being my brothers keeper, I have no problem helping those who ACTUALLY need help. I do have a problem helping those who do not and merely use the system to their advantage. As for the rest of your opinion, you're reaching.
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14496 Sep 2, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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My entire belief system is not an entitlement program. You made the erroneous statement that it was.
Your christian religion most certainly is. You think you will be offered eternal salvation, that you have a chance of exhaltation, that you can become more than human, all things that mankind cannot provide for themselves. Ultimate entitlement program. It doesn't matter whether you deserve it or not, you can't provide it by you
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14497 Sep 2, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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Do you think freely, or are you "forced" to think a certain way? I don't believe you are forced by the Mormon Church, or any other religion for that matter to think and believe as they do. If you say that you are, you're playing "the game" again.
Now, as far as being my brothers keeper, I have no problem helping those who ACTUALLY need help. I do have a problem helping those who do not and merely use the system to their advantage. As for the rest of your opinion, you're reaching.
I'm not saying there is forced thinking, but one is forced to live{if they want to live}in a world that is run someone else who is in power, and in this country it's the christian population that run things. And look at the divide that has created, even the christians on this site fight amongst themselves. You all claim to know what is the right way to live, and yet none of you seem at peace
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14498 Sep 2, 2012
And if you have no problem being your brothers keeper, which has been a joke, don't complain about it, it's the system you created
Livinginthelando fcrazy

Ozark, MO

#14499 Sep 2, 2012
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not saying there is forced thinking, but one is forced to live{if they want to live}in a world that is run someone else who is in power, and in this country it's the christian population that run things. And look at the divide that has created, even the christians on this site fight amongst themselves. You all claim to know what is the right way to live, and yet none of you seem at peace
You might live in a country that is based on Christian principles, but you are in no way forced to think or believe in those principles. You are free to think and believe as you wish. A fact, you should be very thankful for that you do. It's too bad you don't live in a country where you are actually forced by the government to think and believe as they want, so you can see what it's actually like, e.g. North Korea.
Livinginthelando fcrazy

Ozark, MO

#14500 Sep 2, 2012
pearl wrote:
And if you have no problem being your brothers keeper, which has been a joke, don't complain about it, it's the system you created
I did not create the welfare system. The US Government did. Furthermore, it's my right as a citizen of this Country to complain if I feel like it. Isn't this Country great? I can do that and not be in fear of my life. Think about that, Pearl.
pearl

West Jordan, UT

#14501 Sep 2, 2012
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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You might live in a country that is based on Christian principles, but you are in no way forced to think or believe in those principles. You are free to think and believe as you wish. A fact, you should be very thankful for that you do. It's too bad you don't live in a country where you are actually forced by the government to think and believe as they want, so you can see what it's actually like, e.g. North Korea.
You're taking this dialog in a whole new direction. I know I'm free to think what I want, in fact I would make the claim, I'm more free than you in that regard. I was referring to history and how civlization got to be this way, a mess, and I claim it was forced by the monotheistic movement, otherwise known as the argarian revolution, including christians.
Livinginthelando fcrazy

Ozark, MO

#14502 Sep 2, 2012
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>You're taking this dialog in a whole new direction. I know I'm free to think what I want, in fact I would make the claim, I'm more free than you in that regard. I was referring to history and how civlization got to be this way, a mess, and I claim it was forced by the monotheistic movement, otherwise known as the argarian revolution, including christians.
I disagree. I'm not taking this dialog in a whole new direction, and you are certainly not more free in thinking than I. You seem to have no belief system at all, whereas I do and that's very liberating. However, you're entitled to think what you want. It's all a matter of perception.
That being said, I'm talking about the here and now. Not hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years ago. So you need to stay on point.

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