Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

OregonSUX wrote:

<quoted text>Exactly how many people believe you?

I count zero.

Better go back to school, sux.

Dana Robertson wrote:

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No, you claim I was lying about the members having to do the wards janitorial work. I was not, it is a fact. I'm beginning to wonder if the truth has ever met your lips.

Sorry, but I made no such claim.

You are creating that out of thin air, as you do your entire religious doctrine.

OregonSUX wrote:

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Exactly how many people believe you?
I count zero.

Best count again.

Regardless. It doesn't matter how many people believe me. What matters is that I know I am correct, and I will not waver.

Cary L Nickel wrote:

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Best count again.
Regardless. It doesn't matter how many people believe me. What matters is that I know I am correct, and I will not waver.

You cannot vote for yourself so I count one post made by your pseudonym which also doesn't count.

Spoken just like a cultist. You are the worst proselytizer ever.

Romney opposes civil unions 'identical to marriage'



By Catalina Camia, USA TODAY
Updated 1d ago

Updated 6:02 p.m. ET

Mitt Romney restated his opposition to same-sex marriage today, following President Obama's endorsement of such unions.

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By Henny Ray Abrams, AP
"When these issues were raised in my state of Massachusetts I indicated my view, which is I do not favor marriage between people of the same gender and I don't favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name," Romney said in an interview with KDVR-TV in Denver.

BLOG: Obama supports gay marriage

"My view is that domestic partnership benefits, hospital visitation rights and the like are appropriate but the others are not," the presumptive GOP presidential nominee said.

Obama earlier today told ABC News that "same sex-couples should be able to get married," becoming the first U.S. president to endorse gay marriage.

The Democratic president's statement came days after Vice President Biden and Education Secretary Arne Duncan embraced gay marriage and exposed differences on the topic within the Obama administration. Obama had been saying his views on the issue were "evolving."

Later in the day, Romney left the parsing of Obama's evolution on the same-sex marriage to the news media. "This is a very tender and sensitive topic as are many social issues, but I have the same views I've had since running for office," Romney said after a campaign stop in Oklahoma, according to MSNBC.

USA TODAY will have more on the impact of the president's endorsement in Thursday's editions.

(Contributing: Jackie Kucinich)

Yea......and after they legalize gay marriage they will want to do it in our temples too. Not going to happen. Not sure why they would want to. I mean....they just think they can use obamas change Anywhere? Children please.

Tender?

This is civil rights. What about it is tender?

OregonSUX wrote:

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You cannot vote for yourself so I count one post made by your pseudonym which also doesn't count.
Spoken just like a cultist. You are the worst proselytizer ever.

Sorry, don't have a pseudonym. Don't need one, since I don't require anyone's approval but my own.

Not a proselytizer either. I just speak the truth. Whether you believe it or not is immaterial to me.

No Surprise wrote:

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There is no double speak. Jesus never once told his followers to address him as Father. He did call all his followers and those humans of this earth "BROTHERS AND SISTERS."
The old testament states Lucifer was a powerful spirit and called him son of the morning. Revelations state Lucifer was so powerful he convinced 1/3rd of all heavenly spirits in the preexistence to side with him.
What you and mainstream Christianity forget with purposeful denial is the fact that Lucifer/Satan was created as a spirit as the rest of us by God the Father. God the Father, not Jesus, created all spirits that exist. That is why we are to call him God the Father.
Thus Jesus and Lucifer/Satan and all of us are brothers and sisters in spirit because we all were created by the same God the Father.
But I realize you'll find something to complicate that information with as you usually do :)

mainstream Christianity does not believe we existed before we were born. Nor does mainstream Christianity believe we can become Gods. That's just the made up crap Joe sold you with the Book of Moron. As far as I know the only religion that believes you can become a God other than LDS is Scientology. That crap was made up by worst than Joe Smith. Ron Hubbard was a known sci-fi writer and it was known he made a bet with a friend he could start a religion. But, the bible many times tells of those that will be fooled by false Prophets.

Cary L Nickel wrote:

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Sorry, don't have a pseudonym. Don't need one, since I don't require anyone's approval but my own.
Not a proselytizer either. I just speak the truth. Whether you believe it or not is immaterial to me.

Yes, you are not a proselytizer, you are the anti-proselytizer. You suck at getting people to view your religion favorably.

The more you post the more cultlike, insular, weird, offensive and nutty your religion seems.

Bonus hunter wrote:

Yea......and after they legalize gay marriage they will want to do it in our temples too. Not going to happen. Not sure why they would want to. I mean....they just think they can use obamas change Anywhere? Children please.

I would participate in helping to burn temples before I would support allowing a violation of God's law so great as gay marriage to occur there.

As I've stated before, regardless of my personal beliefs, I have no problem with civil unions in order to provide equal rights under strictly civil law. Personal salvation is the business of the individual. I do not, under any circumstances, support the Biblical act of marriage between members of the same sex.

Disclaimer: My opinion is mine alone. It is not sanctioned by anyone or anything.

OregonSUX wrote:

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Yes, you are not a proselytizer, you are the anti-proselytizer. You suck at getting people to view your religion favorably.
The more you post the more cultlike, insular, weird, offensive and nutty your religion seems.

Ignore this clown. It is about politics and nothing about theology.

Wisdom wrote:

<quoted text>mainstream Christianity does not believe we existed before we were born. Nor does mainstream Christianity believe we can become Gods. That's just the made up crap Joe sold you with the Book of Moron. As far as I know the only religion that believes you can become a God other than LDS is Scientology. That crap was made up by worst than Joe Smith. Ron Hubbard was a known sci-fi writer and it was known he made a bet with a friend he could start a religion. But, the bible many times tells of those that will be fooled by false Prophets.

Really?

OregonSUX wrote:

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Yes, you are not a proselytizer, you are the anti-proselytizer. You suck at getting people to view your religion favorably.
The more you post the more cultlike, insular, weird, offensive and nutty your religion seems.

Oh, you came here with your preconceived notions that I was nutty, cultlike, and all that claptrap. You were a religious bigot from the get go, you didn't need me for that.

I don't need to get people to view anything favorably. I merely offer the truth, it is up to the individual to determine for themselves if they believe or not.

That's why I always post the link to the place where everyone can get their questions about the LDS Church answered:

www.mormon.org

Cary L Nickel wrote:

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Oh, you came here with your preconceived notions that I was nutty, cultlike, and all that claptrap. You were a religious bigot from the get go, you didn't need me for that.
I don't need to get people to view anything favorably. I merely offer the truth, it is up to the individual to determine for themselves if they believe or not.
That's why I always post the link to the place where everyone can get their questions about the LDS Church answered:
www.mormon.org

All you do is argue with people who have an UNFAVORABLE opinion about your religion. You do not do it well but you do it often.

Now you are just lying. That is a very unattractive trait you and Mutt Romnnutz share.

OregonSUX wrote:

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All you do is argue with people who have an UNFAVORABLE opinion about your religion. You do not do it well but you do it often.
Now you are just lying. That is a very unattractive trait you and Mutt Romnnutz share.

Damn right I do. You folks are irrational, fear mongering, bigoted nutcases. Whether you think I'm effective or not is immaterial. I'm not going to convince folks with your ingrained hatred of anything.

But I will NOT let you people get away with your misinformation, misdirection, and outright lying. At least not as long as the topic continues to interest me.

So, you like how Romney keeps gaining ground on Obama? Six months ago, you leftists thought the current prez was a shoo-in..now it ain't such a sure thing, is it?

Cary L Nickel wrote:

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Damn right I do. You folks are irrational, fear mongering, bigoted nutcases. Whether you think I'm effective or not is immaterial. I'm not going to convince folks with your ingrained hatred of anything.
But I will NOT let you people get away with your misinformation, misdirection, and outright lying. At least not as long as the topic continues to interest me.
So, you like how Romney keeps gaining ground on Obama? Six months ago, you leftists thought the current prez was a shoo-in..now it ain't such a sure thing, is it?

You suck at defending your cult, er, religion. You are not just ineffective, you are counter-effective.

All you do is point to someone else's made up writings and say, hey, this is proof that what I say is real. That is utter and complete nonsense.

Obama has never been a shoo-in. That is why people who despise Mutt Romnutz and the freakshow that comes with him are fighting.

Who is irrational?

I am not the one saying that Jesus visited North America or that anyone should be baptizing the dead.

As far as bigotry...Jesus Christ Almighty...people who live in glass churches....

Cary L Nickel wrote:

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Damn right I do. You folks are irrational, fear mongering, bigoted nutcases. Whether you think I'm effective or not is immaterial. I'm not going to convince folks with your ingrained hatred of anything.
But I will NOT let you people get away with your misinformation, misdirection, and outright lying. At least not as long as the topic continues to interest me.
So, you like how Romney keeps gaining ground on Obama? Six months ago, you leftists thought the current prez was a shoo-in..now it ain't such a sure thing, is it?

Nutcases? You are the one in a cult. Irrational? Jews turned into red Indians. Submarine bringing Jews to America. 116 pages stolen and Joe could not rewrite them.
A cult leader will ALWAYS say he is God or has a NEW message from God.
That same person will ALWAYS make themselves the leader.
Somehow the leader will ALWAYS try to isolate their followers from the outside world.
There will ALWAYS be some form of sexual perversion.

Cary L Nickel wrote:

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Sorry, but I made no such claim.
You are creating that out of thin air, as you do your entire religious doctrine.

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Dana Robertson wrote:

"You're saying the church hasn't stopped using janitors? They're not making the member do it for free? Whens the last time you actually attended church?"

Cary:
"There you go again, making stuff up out of thin air."

Thin air is what is in your head when you can't even remember what you posted a couple of days ago. Pathetic.