Proof Michael Jackson can play instruments.

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bob

Australia

#3 Nov 14, 2006
Explane how thats proof.

Mj put his name to charities but thats all he did.
John

Sydney, Australia

#4 Nov 14, 2006
Oh my goodness, if that ain't proof, I don't know what is. Album credits aren't written by the Artists, but by the production and/or record company. Michael Jackson has NEVER said in any way, shape, or form that he does not know how to play musical instrument. I don't know where you are getting your information from Samantha, but it's wrong. He used to play Bongo's before he became a member of the Jackson 5. He can also play drums. He can play piano and guitar. What he can't do, and this is probably what Samantha must've heard, is that he can't read music. As in sheet music. As in the piece of paper that has symbols on it which tell a musician what notes to play. But he can play instruments. I know that for sure.

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Ancalime

Planegg, Germany

#5 Nov 14, 2006
Michael Jackson is just one among many that is what I noticed in those album credits...it doesn't tell exactly how big the parts were. If somebody just plays one or two notes on a track he/she is featured as well as somebody who played more or virtously.....

It is a pity that in all those years Michael Jackson never took to learning an instrument seriuosly instead of just playing around a bit. It would have been better for his career anyway. In addition to that, why do so few photographs exist of Michael jackson actually working in a studio? IMO, strange thing. Lots of other artists have comparatively more of that in their careers......

Some even document their Making ofs...on DVD or movie and publish them.....;-)
John

Sydney, Australia

#6 Nov 14, 2006
Ancalime wrote:
Michael Jackson is just one among many that is what I noticed in those album credits...it doesn't tell exactly how big the parts were. If somebody just plays one or two notes on a track he/she is featured as well as somebody who played more or virtously.....
It is a pity that in all those years Michael Jackson never took to learning an instrument seriuosly instead of just playing around a bit. It would have been better for his career anyway. In addition to that, why do so few photographs exist of Michael jackson actually working in a studio? IMO, strange thing. Lots of other artists have comparatively more of that in their careers......
Some even document their Making ofs...on DVD or movie and publish them.....;-)
There is footage of Michael in the studio, but it's just a matter of actually finding it. There is a lot of footage that is hard to find. Fans are signing petitions to get these types of things released on dvd. I know there's some footage of Michael recording We are the world floating around somewhere. I found it youtube if you want to see.

And then you have little reports like the access hollywood one which just shows little bits and pieces, and it didn't really show MJ doing anything anyway.
The percussion section on a lot of MJ's songs are from him beatboxing. So that's why he's probably credited on the percussion. But he can play drums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
If you listen to who is it and stranger in moscow, you'll be able to hear what I'm going on about.
Sunburst

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Nov 14, 2006
I've never seen Michael play a piano or guitar during a live concert. In fact, I very rarely have even see him sing anything(without lipsyncing.) Prince, on the other hand, plays keyboards, guitar, and sings EVERY note live. Now who is the one who is actually playing instruments here?

Michael has never given a shred of proof that he even knows the individual notes on a piano. I've seen him holding guitars when he was in his teens, but he wasn't even forming a chord when holding it. I doubt that Michael played even one note on any of his albums.
bob

Australia

#8 Nov 14, 2006
So he clamed percussions,But never touched the drums.
And the guitar.Was that the Air Guitar.
John

Sydney, Australia

#9 Nov 14, 2006
Sunburst wrote:
I've never seen Michael play a piano or guitar during a live concert. In fact, I very rarely have even see him sing anything(without lipsyncing.) Prince, on the other hand, plays keyboards, guitar, and sings EVERY note live. Now who is the one who is actually playing instruments here?
Michael has never given a shred of proof that he even knows the individual notes on a piano. I've seen him holding guitars when he was in his teens, but he wasn't even forming a chord when holding it. I doubt that Michael played even one note on any of his albums.
The proof is there written in black and white. The reason people haven't seen him play piano or anything is because either no has recorded it, or no one has released the footage or picture to the public. There's a pepsi commercial were he's singing acapella and playing piano I just have to find it. He knows how to play guitar because when he was little, he and his brothers would steal his father's guitar while he was at work and play it. That's how Tito learned how to play. The reason he doesn't perform with an instrument is because he need's to dance. Can you imagine Michael trying to do Billie Jean with a bass in his hands? It would be very difficult.
John

Sydney, Australia

#10 Nov 14, 2006
Sunburst wrote:
I've never seen Michael play a piano or guitar during a live concert. In fact, I very rarely have even see him sing anything(without lipsyncing.) Prince, on the other hand, plays keyboards, guitar, and sings EVERY note live. Now who is the one who is actually playing instruments here?
Prince and Michael are two different artists. Why people keep comparing them, I do not know. Michael did sing his shows live though. He only started miming on the dangerous tour. If you heard him on previous tours you would understand why. Michael was dancing and singing at the same time so his voice sounded terrible because he was always out of breathe. Anyway, that's why he started lipsyncing.
Ancalime

Planegg, Germany

#11 Nov 14, 2006
John wrote:
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There is footage of Michael in the studio, but it's just a matter of actually finding it. There is a lot of footage that is hard to find. Fans are signing petitions to get these types of things released on dvd. I know there's some footage of Michael recording We are the world floating around somewhere. I found it youtube if you want to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =aXmVrAP4p1UXX
And then you have little reports like the access hollywood one which just shows little bits and pieces, and it didn't really show MJ doing anything anyway.
The percussion section on a lot of MJ's songs are from him beatboxing. So that's why he's probably credited on the percussion. But he can play drums.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
If you listen to who is it and stranger in moscow, you'll be able to hear what I'm going on about.
Signing petitions to have it released? LOL If that footage was any good or convincing it would have been released years ago when it was still relevant. A good method to fulfil an existing record contract as well. That it didn't happen speaks volumes....

The other stuff I already know...youTube is fine for that sort of things to look at and have a peep at:-)Anyway, it is little that can be found and nothing shows Michael Jackson improvising music at a piano or guitar etc. and so it is up to this day......

Michael jackson has got a lot to prove tomorrow indeed. Just if fans say he is the King of Pop or whatever it isn't convincing or fact to the rest of the world.
Ancalime

Planegg, Germany

#12 Nov 14, 2006
John wrote:
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Prince and Michael are two different artists. Why people keep comparing them, I do not know. Michael did sing his shows live though. He only started miming on the dangerous tour. If you heard him on previous tours you would understand why. Michael was dancing and singing at the same time so his voice sounded terrible because he was always out of breathe. Anyway, that's why he started lipsyncing.
the catch is that it is a cul de sac artistically. If someone who is so dependent on a stage show as MJ seems to be, gets older he has to rely on other strenghts (playing an instrument on stage, singing live or a cappella etc) or accept that and stop performing....

Prince is much more clever in accepting his age and he doesn't need elaborate stage shows to shine. Just his guitar and a backing band. Prince's worst live concerts were those when he performed lipsnyching in order to get out of his Warner contract. he openly admits that it was a strategy.....;-)to piss of Warner.

Well, Michael Jackson manages to piss off the rest of the music world with his stage antics and notions to be still the King of Pop;-))))inspite of lipsynching a whole concert and playing not live at all but pretend to. That is cheating.
Sunburst

Cincinnati, OH

#13 Nov 14, 2006
John wrote:
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Prince and Michael are two different artists. Why people keep comparing them, I do not know. Michael did sing his shows live though. He only started miming on the dangerous tour. If you heard him on previous tours you would understand why. Michael was dancing and singing at the same time so his voice sounded terrible because he was always out of breathe. Anyway, that's why he started lipsyncing.
You just basically proved my point. Michael Jackson hasn't sung a live note since the Bad Tour, which was (**gasp**) 20 years ago! And I compared Michael to Prince, not because they sound or look alike, but because they are two different entities: a live dancer/entertainer(Michael Jackson), and a live musician/dancer/performer/sing er(Prince.) You fans always have to throw the 'don't compare them' argument in, whenever somebody compares an actual musician to someone like Jackson. Well, that is precisely why we do it! If I had to spend $50 to see either one of them, I would pick Prince because then I would be getting my money's worth(instead of seeing Michael Jackson, and basically getting the same vocals I already have on record, the same music that's been pretracked by digital computer to play in the background while he dances, and the same dance moves I already have several times on DVD.) With Prince, I would be getting fresh live dance moves, live vocals, and live instruments being played by "actual" live musicians. The keyword here being LIVE.

And my point from the beginning(before you purposely sidetracked this thread) was that Prince is obviously a musician, since there's actual footage of him tearing up a guitar and playing all those instruments. Whereas the only proof we have that Michael plays ANYTHING (other than his mouth) are a few scribblings on an album's liner notes. That's really sad, when you come to think about it.
whack

Dublin, Ireland

#14 Nov 14, 2006
Any tom,dick and harry can play an instrument.Mj dont need to play an instrument,he just sings, dances and puts on a show.
Prince cant dance or sing near aswell as mj,that why his album sales are about a quarter of mj's.
Who else uses their mouth as an instrument like him...no one.i.e, no one can,he dont need instruments,so unique.
Princes shows are boring.You atmosphere for god sake.
Ancalime

Planegg, Germany

#15 Nov 14, 2006
whack wrote:
Any tom,dick and harry can play an instrument.Mj dont need to play an instrument,he just sings, dances and puts on a show.
Prince cant dance or sing near aswell as mj,that why his album sales are about a quarter of mj's.
Who else uses their mouth as an instrument like him...no one.i.e, no one can,he dont need instruments,so unique.
Princes shows are boring.You atmosphere for god sake.
Says who? And since when have album sales something to do with quality music? Michael jackson fans are always the first to quote some numbers but the last of admitting that Michael jackson's album sales have dropped so that he basically sells as much or few records as many other artists (incl. Prince)

Due to that logic, MJ's music and musical capabilities are to be measured to other artists.....and they are limited because he can't play an instrument so well that he could perform with it live. Furthermore, spare us that PR crap from camp Jackson you quote all the time. Just because the Jackson camp says that MJ is a genius in whatever, it still doesn't prove anything to the rest of the world.
Sunburst

Cincinnati, OH

#16 Nov 14, 2006
whack wrote:
Any tom,dick and harry can play an instrument.Mj dont need to play an instrument,he just sings, dances and puts on a show.
Prince cant dance or sing near aswell as mj,that why his album sales are about a quarter of mj's.
Who else uses their mouth as an instrument like him...no one.i.e, no one can,he dont need instruments,so unique.
Princes shows are boring.You atmosphere for god sake.
Musicians PLAY INSTRUMENTS. The fact that MJ doesn't play an instrument only illustrates that he isn't a musician.
King MJ

Stafford, UK

#17 Nov 14, 2006
I can play my ding a ling.

AAAAAOOOUUUUWW!
whack

Dublin, Ireland

#18 Nov 14, 2006
Ancalime wrote:
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Says who? And since when have album sales something to do with quality music? Michael jackson fans are always the first to quote some numbers but the last of admitting that Michael jackson's album sales have dropped so that he basically sells as much or few records as many other artists (incl. Prince)
Due to that logic, MJ's music and musical capabilities are to be measured to other artists.....and they are limited because he can't play an instrument so well that he could perform with it live. Furthermore, spare us that PR crap from camp Jackson you quote all the time. Just because the Jackson camp says that MJ is a genius in whatever, it still doesn't prove anything to the rest of the world.
So your saying thriller has bad quality music?
Michael Jackson has the biggest selling album of all time,after 4 decades surely you gotta get a drop right?!Bet you all his albums still sell more that prince's rival albums.
The whole world thinks he is a genius.he doesnt have to prove it.
So your basically saying anyone who doesnt play an instrument is crap?
I have 5 neighbours,4 of them play instruments (guitar,piano and drums).Probably got some one to teach em when they were young,doesnt mean they will be technically or creatively brilliant does it??!
Jackson grew up at a young age learning how to dance and sing,I'm sure if he had TIME he could learn MORE instruments.I know for a fact he plays the piano,he played in the pepsi ad.
Sitting on stage playing a guitar or a piano is boring.He is all about movement,fireworks and flashy colours, that's why he wouldn't even consider playing live instruments.dduuuhhhh!!
bob

Australia

#19 Nov 14, 2006
whack wrote:
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So your saying thriller has bad quality music?
Michael Jackson has the biggest selling album of all time,after 4 decades surely you gotta get a drop right?!Bet you all his albums still sell more that prince's rival albums.
The whole world thinks he is a genius.he doesnt have to prove it.
So your basically saying anyone who doesnt play an instrument is crap?
I have 5 neighbours,4 of them play instruments (guitar,piano and drums).Probably got some one to teach em when they were young,doesnt mean they will be technically or creatively brilliant does it??!
Jackson grew up at a young age learning how to dance and sing,I'm sure if he had TIME he could learn MORE instruments.I know for a fact he plays the piano,he played in the pepsi ad.
Sitting on stage playing a guitar or a piano is boring.He is all about movement,fireworks and flashy colours, that's why he wouldn't even consider playing live instruments.dduuuhhhh!!
The crazy frog sold crape loades to,But that dont prove its good.

Google The greatest albums off all time not the most sold.
See how many sites rate MJ as number one.
Ancalime

Planegg, Germany

#20 Nov 14, 2006
whack wrote:
<quoted text>
So your saying thriller has bad quality music?
Michael Jackson has the biggest selling album of all time,after 4 decades surely you gotta get a drop right?!Bet you all his albums still sell more that prince's rival albums.
The whole world thinks he is a genius.he doesnt have to prove it.
So your basically saying anyone who doesnt play an instrument is crap?
I have 5 neighbours,4 of them play instruments (guitar,piano and drums).Probably got some one to teach em when they were young,doesnt mean they will be technically or creatively brilliant does it??!
Jackson grew up at a young age learning how to dance and sing,I'm sure if he had TIME he could learn MORE instruments.I know for a fact he plays the piano,he played in the pepsi ad.
Sitting on stage playing a guitar or a piano is boring.He is all about movement,fireworks and flashy colours, that's why he wouldn't even consider playing live instruments.dduuuhhhh!!
Bad taste and no knowledge not my problem;-) Jackson still hasn't had a rehearsal for the WMA tomorrow instead he goes shopping, lets award himself for commercial sales of a 24 year old album. Not very convincing to the public if you are not a fan.....

Simply stop believing and parroting PR stuff from the Jackson camp which you are doing just now.
If musicians can play an instrument they have a chance of a long career and an even better one if they have longevity, integrity and a personality and respect things Michael Jackson lacks a lot because cheering by fans and synchophants only isn't the be and end all for a real musician. BTW, Jackson has got all the time of the world to learn something new and practise musically but he does not do it.....

Actually listening to synchophants and yes-people was what Michael Jackson gave all the trouble.....that and not accepting that respect is something you have to earn everyday and not take for granted. So, indeed he has to prove a lot and it certainly would help if his fans would admit that.
booya

Melbourne, Australia

#21 Nov 14, 2006
Look, this thread is rediculous. Michael Jackson plays instruments, it CLEARLY STATES this in albums credits of his later albums (HIStory, BOTDF, Invincible) as well as Thriller.

Anyone here arguing that Michael does not play the instruments when it clearly says he does in the credits is a complete and utter moron, end of story. The artist of an album cannot just change the credits to his liking, there are hundreds of people working on each album and the album credits are written by the recording studio. If MJ ever tried to change the credits they wouldn't allow him to do so. How stupid do you think people are? Just like they would never credit Michael to something he did not do, they would never discredit him to something he did do. Album credits are the most reliable source for information on an album because it comes DIRECTLY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO PRODUCED AND MANUFACTURED THE ALBUM. If you cannot trust the people who made the album, then all other sources and not trustworthy. You people are so f*cking stupid.

Let me ask you something - do you honestly, truly believe that a man such as Michael Jackson, who has been in the music industry for practically his entire life, could not pick up a single instrument and play it? You are in serious denial if you think he can't.
Tek

Hamilton, Canada

#22 Nov 14, 2006
SAMANTHA wrote:
Lindsey Lohan gets album credits on her album for piano. I suppose you think she played that as well. News for you...artist do this all the time just to make sure they get royalty for radio play.
Jacko openly admits he cannot play a musical instrument. Now, either know the facts about him or stop trying to post fake stuff that will only get you blown out of the water from a "hater" such as they call me.
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You're lying and you know it. Almost any footage of michael can be found somewhere on youtube, and any quote can be found somewhere on the net. If he said that than why don't you provide the link.
As if you but Lindsay in the same sentence as michael.

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