Was Jordan Chandler's description of Michael Jackson's genitalia accurate?

You gotta love it when MJ fans ask dumb questions and then get pissed if they don't like the answers!!!

Pop Tart- wrote:

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Did I? Hmmmm, I don't remember saying anything about your education before....Oh and by the way...
(Pssst! I was just kidding about the contortionist thing.....shhhhh......It will be our little secret....:)

Sorry.

krackerjacks wrote:

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Extortion is against the law!!!
Why weren't they thrown in jail for it??
It must have been "legal extortion," huh??????????

Save it for your book.

Jermaine 7 wrote:

<quoted text>Save it for your book.

If it does exist....

Jermaine 7 wrote:

<quoted text>Save it for your book.

You're too dumb to go into my book!

smilemjj wrote:

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If it does exist....

Several passages from it have gotten you worked up already!!

krackerjacks wrote:

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You're too dumb to go into my book!

F you . F off.

Jermaine 7 wrote:

<quoted text>Save it for your book.

If and when you read my book, if you see a reference to "bullheaded MJ nutjobs," you can include yourself in that bunch and call yourself famous!!

krackerjacks wrote:

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If and when you read my book, if you see a reference to "bullheaded MJ nutjobs," you can include yourself in that bunch and call yourself famous!!

F you. Don't care bout your stupid book. Go write it already.

krackerjacks wrote:

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Several passages from it have gotten you worked up already!!

What are you going to do with the vast amount of money you get from it, buy a desert island and disappear on it? Wouldn't that be nice.

xJWx wrote:

If Michael Jackson was guilty back in 1993 that means Jordon Chandler knew what Jackson was when the 2005 court case came along. It also means that Chandler made the decision to let a vulnerable pediatric cancer patient and molestation victim fend for himself in court. If he had any compassion, he would have testified or expressed his support for Gavin Arvizo in some way, but he didn't. He selfishly kept quiet while the Arvizo family was put through the wringer. Abused or not, he's not someone I can generate much sympathy for.

You're assuming. We don't know why he chose not to say anything. However, if you read the contract between Michael and the Chandlers, they were supposed to alert him, at least five days in advance, in the event of being subpeoned. If you read the letter from Vaccaro to the D.A., he mentions how the Jackson camp used intimidation tactics to keep people silent. Anthony Pellicano was discussed. Those two documents put up red flags you f'loons choose to ignore.

Jermaine 7 wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, you mean the extortionists?

For the umpteenth time, extortion is a federal crime. Michael could have dragged them into criminal court. It didn't happen.

BBgun wrote:

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Why would Wade Robson accuse Jackson of wrong doing, and remain friends with him ito adulthood? That does not make since.

Wade's mother garnered quite a career for her son, by pimping him to Michael. Wade's testimony was a bit lackluster.

krackerjacks wrote:

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Nope. It's the same victims we've known about for years.
1. Jordan Chandler
2. Gavin Arivizo
3. Star Arivizo
4. Eddie Reynoza (Claims MJ raped him.)
5. Joseph T. Bartucci Jr.(Claims MJ sexually tortured and raped him.)
6. Aaron Carter (Claims MJ gave him drugs when he was 15.)
7. Jason Francia (MJ paid his mother over 2 million dollars after she caught MJ and her 8 year old son lying naked together on his bedroom floor.)
8. Wade Robinson (Blanca Francia claims to have caught MJ and Wade naked together as well. Wade was 8 at the time.)
9. Terry George (MJ made obscene phone calls to George when he was 13.)
These are only the ones we know of. MJ’s employees say MJ had a revolving bedroom door and had between five to seven boys in total who were his regulars; that ranged in age from 12 to 14.

Let's not forget Aaron Carter awakened at 5 o'clock in the morning, found Michael on the foot of his bed, gasped, and said, "What are you doing?"

Simone Jackson was also eight years old when she had private sleepovers with Michael. I found photos of her; the poor thing looks very tomboyish.

smilemjj wrote:

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What are you going to do with the vast amount of money you get from it, buy a desert island and disappear on it? Wouldn't that be nice.

Maybe I'll do like your dream lover Jermaine does, say incredibly stupid things and then refuse to admit that I'm wrong.

krackerjacks wrote:

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Maybe I'll do like your dream lover Jermaine does, say incredibly stupid things and then refuse to admit that I'm wrong.

You already say incredibly stupid things, and you are wrong.

smilemjj wrote:

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You already say incredibly stupid things, and you are wrong.

Ooooooo...Good One!!

InDaHouse wrote:

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Possible, but let's not lose sight of who the victims are and who the perpetrator is, and as such their culpability and roles.

I'm not criticizing Jordan Chandler from a legal perspective, I'm criticizing him from an ethical one. If Michael Jackson did molest him, then he knew what Jackson was about. He knew that a fragile boy recovering from cancer was, in all likelihood, also molested by Jackson. He knew that he could defend this boy in a way that no one else could, but he did nothing. Chandler turned a blind eye to the plight of another victim, and may have even expressed support for their abuser - at least one classmate was willing to testify to that under oath.

If the abuse allegations are true, I feel terrible for Gavin Arvizo, but Jordan Chandler can go scratch. Being abused as a child doesn't give anyone a free pass to be a self centered douche as an adult.

xJWx wrote:

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I'm not criticizing Jordan Chandler from a legal perspective, I'm criticizing him from an ethical one. If Michael Jackson did molest him, then he knew what Jackson was about. He knew that a fragile boy recovering from cancer was, in all likelihood, also molested by Jackson. He knew that he could defend this boy in a way that no one else could, but he did nothing. Chandler turned a blind eye to the plight of another victim, and may have even expressed support for their abuser - at least one classmate was willing to testify to that under oath.
If the abuse allegations are true, I feel terrible for Gavin Arvizo, but Jordan Chandler can go scratch. Being abused as a child doesn't give anyone a free pass to be a self centered douche as an adult.

The misplaced sympathy some people have for anyone who alleges molestation is part of the problem. Just because someone makes an accusation doesn't make it true, and people's emotional reactions frequently get in the way of being objective and rational.

Jordan Chandler seems to be a perpetual 13-year old in the eyes of many anti-MJ people. He is no longer a child, but an adult. He was an adult at the time of the trial, and as far as I'm concerned, his adamant refusal to assist in any way is a strong indicator that he was NEVER molested and was simply not yet psychologically ready to say so. Maybe he was afraid of losing all that money.

xJWx wrote:

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I'm not criticizing Jordan Chandler from a legal perspective, I'm criticizing him from an ethical one. If Michael Jackson did molest him, then he knew what Jackson was about. He knew that a fragile boy recovering from cancer was, in all likelihood, also molested by Jackson. He knew that he could defend this boy in a way that no one else could, but he did nothing. Chandler turned a blind eye to the plight of another victim, and may have even expressed support for their abuser - at least one classmate was willing to testify to that under oath.
If the abuse allegations are true, I feel terrible for Gavin Arvizo, but Jordan Chandler can go scratch. Being abused as a child doesn't give anyone a free pass to be a self centered douche as an adult.

The truth is nobody knows how close Jordan Chandler came to testifying in that trial. I highly doubt he said no from the moment he was contacted. He probably thought long and hard about it before making his decision. It's disrespectful to criticize him when you don't know the truth. He went through years of therapy to overcome being molested by Michael Jackson. Can you imagine how terrifying it must be for a rape/molestation victim to meet their abuser again, whether they are a child or an adult?. Jordan would have also been fully aware that no matter how convincing he would have been it would have made no difference to the outcome of the trial as the jury were always asked to make their decision on the current accusations not from past accusations.

But why do you criticize Jordan, and not Michael Jackson? If Michael Jackson was truly a victim of extortionists why didn't he do anything about them? And more importantly, why didn't he attempt to help the children that were being used against him. The fact that Jackson never did one thing to defend himself is a clear indication that he was guilty as hell.