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mimi
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My son came home from school today and told me that his swimming teacher has been touching him, i tell my son that it cant be true because ive known the instructor for years, and a few years ago this same instructor was accused of touching another boy, but it wasn't true, the first boy was lying, my son is lying. This is the response to the Michael Jackson allegations, Michael is accused of touching another underage boy and people insist his innocence even though he had already been accused of the same thing before. It is disgusting that people can overlook the fact that he is being accused of paedophilia because he is MICHAEL JACKSON, it is disgusting that Beyonce (who i am a big fan of) still insists on publicly tributing Michael Jackson even though he has been accused of paedophilia TWICE. As a society we are guilty of double standards, looking at female promiscuity with disgust but turning a blind eye to male promiscuity. Michael Jackson is a paedophile and his victims have been ostracised from society because of his sickening behaviour and the naivety and neglicence of the parents. Anybody who says "those boys wanted money, that's why they lied," think about this- they would have been better off blackmailing him and earning money than bringing it to the attention of the media, facing scruitny and having to live in hiding. He did touch those boys, and i am sure there were more, we can only pray that God will help his victims find peace and hope.
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Artistry
Chicago, IL
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People are accused of things all the times and it does not mean it is true, especially when you look at the fact that this last time was from a family that has gotten over on fraud and lies for a long time. Yet, people are accused everyday of things that are not true, but believable. I have been accused of being a thug and uneducated several times because I'm black. It not true. Michael is a freak, but that does not equate to a child molester. He is weird, but that does not equate to a child molester. IF they did not want money, they would of lock his ass up rather than accepting the money mimi. The other family was booted out of his house when they filed the suit even though the boy had just told DCFS nothing happen. Jay Leno who hates Michael Jackson even had to admit that they were swindlers. THey has never been any proof of wrong doing on Michael part in these cases accept for the accusation. They supposely saw his penis, but can't describe correctly(first and second case). Until MJ is proven guilty then like LL, BEyonce and other his is innocent. Plus his personal life has nothing to do with his art. He was a phenomenal artist who has influence an entire culture. That cannot be denied and should not. We don't do it for Elvis who courted a 14 year old precilla. We don't do it for Jerry Lee Lewis, Woody Allen, John Lennon and none of the other artist who went after young partners during their career. Let the art stand, and let God judge the personal life.
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch... how disgusting. what you're saying basically is- who cares if he touches kids, he's a great artist. damn right he was a great artist but a sickening paedohple at the same time.
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“Because you are.......a Puppet”
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My first big question,(Hey there Mimi!) is why in the name of god is this on a Janet Jackson forum, and not on Michael's forum? Janet is getting enough bad press right now, without adding the reminder that she is in fact Michael's brother.
(Of course I had to bring Janet back into the conversation)
In all reality, I do not know how to side on this one. I have never doubted my gut instinct when I meet a person, but that is just it...ain't met him. My big question is, if he was guilty the first time, why in gods name did they continue taking children by the bus load every day to Never Land? For over a decade after the first one, this still continued to happen. And it wasn't like the first one was not publicly known. It is Michael F**king Jackson. The man can't walk down the road without it making the 9 o'clock news. I love the music. I always have. Probably always will. But the person himself, I just do not know how to side. All I have to base a opinion on is what I saw on tv and read in the papers. And unfortunately that cannot be taken as gospel.
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Oops meant to say she is Michael's sister
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mimi
UK
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thats the point- it was foolish to let any more children go that devils lair- i did post it on the michael forum.
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Artistry
Chicago, IL
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No that now what I'm saying. What I am saying is that if they were not after money, they would not of took money and cost the D.A their case. Like MJ and Lisa told Diane Sawyer in 1995, lawyers told him their was no sure way he could win, so he took a gave them what they wanted.
In 2003, it was a scam. Even Leno knew it was and he hates MJ. But the boy and his family had scam J.C Penny, and the welfare. It just who they were
THe other point was the world most famous pedophile are Elvis, R Kely, Michael Jackson, Marvin Gaye, Jerry Lewis, John Lennon and so many many others, but we only pick on Michael's. No one elses.
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mimi
UK
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this is very true, it just shows how hypocritical we are, r.kelly is a paedophile too but people will still sing "same girl" like noones business.
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Joined: Oct 17, 2008
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Prospect Park, PA
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mimi it's pedofile not paedofile.
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Artistry
Chicago, IL
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We sing all of theirs, who are facts and not speculation. But the speculatory Jacko's is the only one who we harp on. It does not make any sense.
THey are not after money, but taking money is ridiculous. The family known for fraud was not commiting fraud on Michael Jackson. Crazier. let just get off of it and focus on their music because their private lives is to confusing and motives are too various to pinpoint.
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mimi
UK
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in england we say paedophile and either way it is not spelt with an F, did you go to school?
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mimi
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artistry- so basically your saying lets ignore the fact that a man has been acussed of abusing kids because he makes great music, would you be saying that if was a child that you cared about that came home saying theyd been abused.
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Artistry
Chicago, IL
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mimi wrote: artistry- so basically your saying lets ignore the fact that a man has been acussed of abusing kids because he makes great music, would you be saying that if was a child that you cared about that came home saying theyd been abused. No, what I'm saying is hold everyone to that standard. I personally seperate the artist from their personal lives. I seperate the racist Edgar Allen Poe, from the author Edgar Allen Poe. I do the same with all artist and their work. I do the same with Michael Jackson. I don;t believe that he did anything because the families took money and I'm like what kind of bastard sells the children mental stabilty. But people are lied upon all the time. I think it might be personal experience that make critical of things as a girl said I was the father of her baby, and we never had sex. But I just don't believe everything people are accused of.
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Philadelphia, PA
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mimi wrote: in england we say paedophile and either way it is not spelt with an F, did you go to school? yes i did go to school mimi. lol!!!!! bitch!
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Philadelphia, PA
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you must have gone to school for kissing ass...
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Philadelphia, PA
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mimi wrote: artistry- so basically your saying lets ignore the fact that a man has been acussed of abusing kids because he makes great music, would you be saying that if was a child that you cared about that came home saying theyd been abused. michael didn't abuse any kids and you are so wrong for saying that. come on now, if he was molesting children, why would people CONTINUE to send their children to Michael Jackson's home? And WHY the fuck would the accuser wait so long to say he molested them. It was all about MONEY and RACE. Because Michael Jackson is a BLACK MAN. If he were caucasian, it wouldn't have gone down like that. Whoever wants to debate with me, come right ahead. Michael never molested anyone. AND Michael DID NOT bleach himself. He has vitiligo Vitiligo: or leukoderma is a chronic skin disease that causes loss of pigment, resulting in irregular pale patches of skin. It occurs when the melanocytes, cells responsible for skin pigmentation, die or are unable to function. The precise cause of vitiligo is complex and not fully understood. There is some evidence suggesting it is caused by a combination of auto-immune, genetic, and environmental factors. The population incidence worldwide is considered to be between 1% and 2%. According to Diseases Database: "A disorder consisting of areas of macular depigmentation, commonly on extensor aspects of extremities, on the face or neck, and in skin folds. Age of onset is often in young adulthood and the condition tends to progress gradually with lesions enlarging and extending until a quiescent state is reached."
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“Because you are.......a Puppet”
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Tres Belle Femme wrote: <quoted text> michael didn't abuse any kids and you are so wrong for saying that. come on now, if he was molesting children, why would people CONTINUE to send their children to Michael Jackson's home? And WHY the fuck would the accuser wait so long to say he molested them. It was all about MONEY and RACE. Because Michael Jackson is a BLACK MAN. If he were caucasian, it wouldn't have gone down like that. Whoever wants to debate with me, come right ahead. Michael never molested anyone. AND Michael DID NOT bleach himself. He has vitiligo Vitiligo: or leukoderma is a chronic skin disease that causes loss of pigment, resulting in irregular pale patches of skin. It occurs when the melanocytes, cells responsible for skin pigmentation, die or are unable to function. The precise cause of vitiligo is complex and not fully understood. There is some evidence suggesting it is caused by a combination of auto-immune, genetic, and environmental factors. The population incidence worldwide is considered to be between 1% and 2%. According to Diseases Database: "A disorder consisting of areas of macular depigmentation, commonly on extensor aspects of extremities, on the face or neck, and in skin folds. Age of onset is often in young adulthood and the condition tends to progress gradually with lesions enlarging and extending until a quiescent state is reached." You will learn that not everyone agrees with this. It is just the way it is. Considering everything that happened within the last 15 years, even I sometimes wonder what has happened. I know the vitiligo (sorry if spelled wrong) is a fact. I have seen too many early pictures in his pamphlets, concert books and other things where it is indeed showing. But there is just things otherwise that are hard to ignore. And it is excruciatingly painful to see, simply because there will not be another talent like Michael. He has everything there is going in his favor as far as talent. And the things that have happened, his way of dealing with them, and his continuous hiding in the shadows, further into seclusion makes it all that much worse. Funny the code to set this post is 1984...can anyone else tell me what was released in 1984
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mimi
UK
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i believe he did touch those kids, parents who sent their kids there AFTER he was accused the first time were just sending their children into a trap, why did he pay them off if he didnt touch them.
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Artistry
Chicago, IL
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Like Johnny Cochran said, there was no sure way to say that he could aqquit Michael and it was in Michael best interest to in it. Micahel had everything to lose, including his freedom, while the family had nothing. If someone accused you of something that could end your freedom, what would you do. Being in that situation, I know I would of done anything to get on with my life.
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Artistry
Chicago, IL
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If you can find some proof that make since I would believe it to, but there was no proof and that he was aquitted. It is painful to be accused of something and be powerless in a situation that can change you life forever. When you stand before a judge, and he says it your word against his word and you are a freak with no nose, brighten skin who has all the rumors MJ had about him, or black as was my case. It rough and not everyone has good motives.
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