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#22
Feb 16, 2008
 
Jaime ONeill wrote:
Any chance of any of you right wingers sticking to the points at hand, the things said by these nuts? Chris Yarbrough wants to talk about honor, after the pillaging of billions of taxpayer dollars, and after the record of lies, and the maltreatment of veterans, and the no-bid contracts to friends of Bush/Cheney. Chris, what is it about the word "honor" you don't understand?
Not one of these retorts has anything to say about what Tancredo said, what Huckabee said, what McCain said. None of it. But that's the way things have gone under Bush. Just change the subject. And that's about all the Republicans have left.
Sadly, trying to make a point with O'Neill is exhausting and not really worth the effort. Any liberal can round up a few examples and bash the right, any conservative can round up a few examples and bash the left....where does that get us? Some of us TRULY are trying to see other perspectives, to respect others opinions, and to reach some compromise in order to get through our daily lives in this jungle on earth that ain't as rosy as it appears. But hate-mongors and fear-baiters like O'Neill simply exacerbate the problems we face as a society and rarely make an effort to be peaceful, empathetic, or understanding.Maybe we the people are getting tired of your spite, your anger, your BLAME.....rather immature emotions one would think such a legend-in-his-own-mind would aspire to rise above. Suffice it to say the blame game, the BDS syndrome, the Reid/Pelosi mentality, isnt presenting to we American people any better choice than the party of George Bush. And I have heard DOZENS of scholarly people say noo-cular instead of nuclear..so what? Are you always that viciously sinister towards people you dislike or disagree with? Maybe a check in the mirror is in order for one casting so damn many aspersions in public, it reeks of a twisted mind.Wonder what your friends really think of you?
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#23
Feb 16, 2008
 
Frank of course the bombing of innocents is never humorous. Frank you couldnt possibly think that any Republican president would take a bombing campaign or an act of war with anything but the most serious regard. You are too reasonable for that Frank. I dont think that any Democratic president would take the matter lightly either. There are serious consequences to starting a war, even the dictators out there know that.
As for the Democratic frontrunners being socialist, I do believe that they are. Barack and Hillary both have their socialist agendas. I was just reading some of Baracks economic ideas, forced retirement plans for one. Hillary wants to the government to control the health care industry, the health care industry in this country is roughly 1/6th of the economy. Do you want the government running 1/6th of the economy. Have you been to a DMV, dealt with the IRS or INS lately? Theirs are definitely socialist ideas.
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Feb 17, 2008
 
This thread reveals what the Republicans have to offer in a nutshell (pun intended). A couple of halfway literate people (the Brads) blow the horn for the base, which seems to be those who are mentally enfeebled enough to buy what they're selling. And what they're selling is a) Brad's obsessive return to the past to argue about weapons of mass destruction and the fact that some Democrats bought into the Bush lies, and b) more fear as far into the future as we care to look, and c) the old tried and true red baiting from the '50s (as when mini-Brad alerts the dummies to a poster of Che Guevarra and draws a connection to Barack Obama (oooh, look out, the commies are coming again, and Obama is a commie, or maybe he's a Muslim). This thread of right wing commentary, like the Republican frontrunner, promises more of the same--screw the poor at home, war abroad, corruption and incompetence in high offices, constant fear to help us all swallow the bitter pill, no real hope except the vague promise that these thieves will keep us from harm, more cronyism, more ancient history about the Clintons whenever the criticism hits its target, more indifference to national disasters like Katrina, more national debt, more years in Iraq, more saber rattling, more alienation of traditional friends and allies, more torture of anyone vaguely suspected of being a terrorist, more violation of our traditions, more loss of our status as the world's good guys, more go-it-alone cowboy diplomacy, more catering to the religious right, more erosion of First Amendment rights under the Constitution. More, more, more of the same old same old. And all for the supposed benefit of the mutual fund investments of guys like Brad Jenks, and lower taxes for the 1% at the top. These guys are so greedy they'll kill their own golden goose. And, now that the economy is in the tank, it's not likely that Brad's investments are going to be doing well for much longer.
Fortunately, most sane Americans have come to see that what we've been living with under Bush is not the "land of the free and the home of the brave," but the land of the a blind justice department and the hoome of the perpetually frightened." Is it any wonder that change is the word on everyone's lips this year. If, like the Brads and a few of these other right wingers, you think McCain is going to change anything, then vote for him, of course. If they let you out unsupervised.
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Feb 17, 2008
 
For those, like Brad II, who get their opinions directely from the hate radio vending machine, any reform of the health care system is socialism and thus is compared to the DMV, and other government agencies to prove government can't run things. Well, the Medicare and Medicaid programs wori rather well, and even the DMV accomplishes the task of licensing milions upon millions of drivers, and at costs the private sector could never match in efficiency. The post office has largely been privatized, so it now pays a hefty profit to the subcontractors, but the mail it really doesn't deserve the constant hits it takes by the anti-govt right wing. Mail service is pretty good, considering the daily volume.
If the American medical system as it currently stands is a shining example of the free enterprise system, then that system is wasteful, unduly expensive, and provides shabby service. As a nation, we pay more far for health care than any other advanced industrial nation, but we are hardly healthier for it. In all the indices--infant mortality, longevity, rates of infection, etc.--we score lower than all those nations that pay less and get more.
But Brad II gets his thoughts unfiltered over the radio, so health care reform is easily dismissed as "socialism," and once that name is hung on it, it's just gotta go, leaving millions uninsured, and allowing the huge rip-off of Americans by the insurance companies in that stand between doctor and patient, deciding what gets covered, and what doesn't, and booting people off coverage if they get sick.
Back to the radio, Brad, and quick. If you're not told how to think about this again real soon, you could grow confused.

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Feb 17, 2008
 
Again Comrade Jaime. The same old Daily Kos talking points. Your opinion pieces are not original in the least, the same old same old from the same writer.
Did you subconsciously intend to write about yourself Comrade when you penned the phrase, But then such delusions of grandeur are just one of the ways crazy people are known to be crazy.?
You certainly have delusions of grandeur. From previous comments you have made in these forums, it is obviously clear that you think you speak for what is right and wrong in America and the world.
If you read the piece mentioned by a commenter previously you will see that the philosophy on the left is immature at its core and very self centered. You want the government to look after you, you do not want to have to answer to a higher moral authority and on and on. Like immature children who refuse to grow up and take responsibility for their own actions. Government health care, lawsuits against MacDonalds for feeding us too much fat, government retirement plans, the list goes on and on. You want the Nanny state; you do not want to be weaned from government milk. Obamas entire campaign is built on the platitudes of Hope, Change, he is trying to appeal to the immature needy child who refuses to grow up. The left think that government, a socialist government, is the answer to the worlds problems. Let Obama heal the Nation. Let Obama heal our souls. These are not my words but Michelle Obamas.
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#27
Feb 17, 2008
 
Jamie forgot to add Thomas Jefferson and our founding fathers to the list of nut jobs on parade. Too bad he slept through history. Remember this oldie but goodie:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed....
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#28
Feb 17, 2008
 
Frank of course the bombing of innocents is never humorous. Frank you couldnt possibly think that any Republican president would take a bombing campaign or an act of war with anything but the most serious regard. You are too reasonable for that Frank. I dont think that any Democratic president would take the matter lightly either. There are serious consequences to starting a war, even the dictators out there know that.
I will take that as an Acknowlegement of McCain's stupid sense of Humor, and I question how you could so lightly overlook it. It wasn't funny.
I would also welcome the extension of Medicare to all people. I am tired of paying exorbinate Premiums to my various private insurance companies. I also think something should be done about Auto Insurance, as a very high portion of the Premiums is to cover medical liability. A true, national health care system would remove the medical portions of your auto insurance premium, and would be an extra side benefit.
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#29
Feb 17, 2008
 
Jaime ONeill wrote:
This thread reveals what the Republicans have to offer in a nutshell (pun intended). A couple of halfway literate people (the Brads) blow the horn for the base, which seems to be those who are mentally enfeebled enough to buy what they're selling. And what they're selling is a) Brad's obsessive return to the past to argue about weapons of mass destruction and the fact that some Democrats bought into the Bush lies, and b) more fear as far into the future as we care to look, and c) the old tried and true red baiting from the '50s (as when mini-Brad alerts the dummies to a poster of Che Guevarra and draws a connection to Barack Obama (oooh, look out, the commies are coming again, and Obama is a commie, or maybe he's a Muslim). This thread of right wing commentary, like the Republican frontrunner, promises more of the same--screw the poor at home, war abroad, corruption and incompetence in high offices, constant fear to help us all swallow the bitter pill, no real hope except the vague promise that these thieves will keep us from harm, more cronyism, more ancient history about the Clintons whenever the criticism hits its target, more indifference to national disasters like Katrina, more national debt, more years in Iraq, more saber rattling, more alienation of traditional friends and allies, more torture of anyone vaguely suspected of being a terrorist, more violation of our traditions, more loss of our status as the world's good guys, more go-it-alone cowboy diplomacy, more catering to the religious right, more erosion of First Amendment rights under the Constitution. More, more, more of the same old same old. And all for the supposed benefit of the mutual fund investments of guys like Brad Jenks, and lower taxes for the 1% at the top. These guys are so greedy they'll kill their own golden goose. And, now that the economy is in the tank, it's not likely that Brad's investments are going to be doing well for much longer.
Fortunately, most sane Americans have come to see that what we've been living with under Bush is not the "land of the free and the home of the brave," but the land of the a blind justice department and the hoome of the perpetually frightened." Is it any wonder that change is the word on everyone's lips this year. If, like the Brads and a few of these other right wingers, you think McCain is going to change anything, then vote for him, of course. If they let you out unsupervised.
Just so you folks who follow this train of thought hear my side I thought I'd point out one of the biggest lies hacks like O'Neill repeats over and over again. O'Neill said above, "And all for the supposed benefit of the mutual fund investments of guys like Brad Jenks, and lower taxes for the 1% at the top."

My success or lack thereof in America is primarily because of real estate investment. I've shared what mutual funds have done under the current administration to dispute the lies about the economy being in the dumps.

But back to the left's and O'Neill's lie. That is the lie the tax cut was for the upper 1%. President Bush's tax cut was the biggest tax cut for the MIDDLE CLASS in the history of this country.

The middle class now pay about 15% income tax as apposed to nearly 25% prior to the decrease.

President Clinton promised a tax cut to the middle class and right after entering office said "so sorry Charlie..." raising taxes....

The second lie about the tax cuts is it costs the treasury revenue. By lowing the amounts middle class citizens pay the amount of discretionary income was increased, allowing people to spend and spend, increasing GDP and employment, which in turn increased the #'s of people paying taxes. REVENUE WENT UP to the treasury.
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#30
Feb 17, 2008
 
Nowhere in my life have I have seen such an egotistical, pompous, self-centered "writer" in any newspaper, big or small, write a spiteful hate piece about one disparate separate group of people and then after having it printed come on a comments thread about it and attack the posters commenting on his fish-wrap drivel! NOWHERE! Only in the Socialist Daily of Paradise! You reeking hippies all deserve each other! Wonder what you'd REALLY have thought about 9/11 if it had happened in YOUR town....And maybe it will, heaven help us, if one of your socialist liberal appeasers ever gets back into the White House.Al_Qaeda LOVES you Jamie O'Neill, and though you are too naive to realize it, YOU are the biggest NUT JOB on this ridge! LMAO at you and your fan club of two!
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#31
Feb 17, 2008
 
Let me see if I understand this. Don of Chaska, MN thinks that Thomas Jefferson's words about democracy was the equivalent of the quotes from Tom Tancredo, John McCain, Mike Huckabee, and the others cited in the column that got all these right wing knickers in a twist.
Man, the logic is really difficult to follow, but just so long as Daniel in Red Bluff is laughing his ass off (LMAO) then this outpouring of nuttiness from the radioheads is worth the trouble. Funny thing is, though, he doesn't sound like he's laughing his ass off. But he does think the Paradise Post is a "Socialist daily" so he's clearly got keen perceptions about things. I do think he's wrong, however, about just who Al Qaeda loves. I doubt they could have hoped for a better result from 9/11 than the one they got in Iraq, when Bush and the boys took their eyes off the true enemy and got us mired in that side issue that has weakened us and stretched our military thin, and diverted money from real homeland security.
Sorry, kiddies, but this little sandbox is just too infantile a place for sane grownups to hang out, so you'll just have to talk among yourselves. Perhaps you can follow the tortured logic found here, but I can't.
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#32
Feb 17, 2008
 
Daniel,
The post is not a daily, and is certainly not socialist, as it has a balance of Liberal and Conservative columnists. Additionally the Editor, Rick Silva is very Conservative. You are simply wrong.
Your name calling discredits your argument and only serves to make you appear desparate.
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#33
Feb 17, 2008
 
kiddies? sane grownups? Whats your breakfast drink spiked with? You are truly a condescending horses patoot...Let's recall a recent quote from someone closely associated with your local rag, JO....."Extreme lefties cannot bear others having opposing views and have to proselytize whenever possible; that is why so many join the teaching and journalism professions. We have a local left-winger whose name appears repeatedly on letters to the editor, the 49er column, and even a full-time blog. He is a crusader who is incapable of accepting that others may have different opinions - much less that he could be WRONG! He , therefore, feels obliged to respond to every opposing letter and correct the writers - meaning convert them to HIS way of thinking. He is like a political Jehovah's Witness on speed!" Sound familiar? Oh so apropos, isnt it?
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#34
Feb 17, 2008
 
Lest anyone go into terminal denial -- the ONLY reason John McCain is the plausible Republican candidate is by default, and exactly because the rest of the candidates were nut jobs. Even most Republicans realize how bad the line up was. McCain went way down in popularity months ago, and was only revived because of the lack of talent of any sort in the GOP line up.

Why else would the self-appointed right wing media mouthpieces like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter and Ingrims be in such a tizzy that they would speak out against his candidacy, and increase the risk of further dividing a party, already greatly harmed by the Administration of George Bush, if this were not the case?

Not only is McCain not liked by those few true Conservatives remaining in the GOP, but he has made any flip flopping by John Kerry look like amateurism. He has very recently changed his position on three major issues like the Bush tax cut, Roe V. Wade, and waterboarding in a very embarrassing and telling ploy to pander for conservative votes. It doesnt get any more transparent and dishonest. How can McCain be trusted to be or do anything he tries to represent?

And yet, this is the best the GOP can come up with to run for President. That should tell you all you need to know about the leadership of the party, even without Jaimes help!
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#35
Feb 17, 2008
 
That article speaks volumes. O'Neil is a JackAss!
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#36
Feb 17, 2008
 
Frank wrote:
Daniel,
The post is not a daily, and is certainly not socialist, as it has a balance of Liberal and Conservative columnists. Additionally the Editor, Rick Silva is very Conservative. You are simply wrong.
Your name calling discredits your argument and only serves to make you appear desparate.
Frank, I have often respected what you had to say on these forums, but today, with your recent post, I do believe that you inadvertently and unintentionally described your GURU O'Neill perfectly! May I quote you, typo and all? "Your name-calling discredits your argument and only serves to make you appear desparate(sic)." If THAT doesnt describe your hero EXACTLY, then you, sir, are a Republican NUT JOB yourself! LMAO!

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#37
Feb 17, 2008
 
Jaime wrote "Sorry, kiddies, but this little sandbox is just too infantile a place for sane grownups to hang out, so you'll just have to talk among yourselves. Perhaps you can follow the tortured logic found here, but I can't."
Watch the linked clip at least until the 42 second mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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#38
Feb 17, 2008
 
Jamie - You wrote "Fred Thompson, another Republican nut job, proclaimed that: "Our basic rights come from God, not from government." a statement to which you apparently disagree. If you disagree with Thompson's statment, you must therfore disagree with Jefferson and the declaration of independence. Logic dicates that if you deem Thompson a nut job, Jefferson must also belong on your list.
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#39
Feb 17, 2008
 
Good point Don! Jamie's friends at the Chico News and review recently editorialized that those of us who beieve in God are part of the "flat-earth society." That we are stupid for believing in God, as they put it, because "The idea that God created human beings some 8,000 or 9,000 years ago simply makes no sense." When it comes to God's creation, their attitude is "Whatever"....So dont be surprised by this company JO keeps. There are lots of these non-believers among us, Godless, bitter, know-it-alls, who choose the journalistic route in order to feebly foist their selfish opines and whines at us..They chastise Huckabee, Tancredo, and Brownback, just like Jamie, for saying that they do not believe in evolution. This seems to be the opposite belief of the hard-core lefty teachings on campus now, so the ASSociated-press media and minor-league journalists team up with these campus losers to espouse the anti-creation Godless fallacy. I'm not a strict Christian bible-toter, but I do believe in and fear the Lord, and all these lefty bashes favoring Darwin over God cannot be in their best interest, in an eternal sense, dont you think? God Bless America!

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Feb 17, 2008
 
Thanks for the complement Daniel.
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Feb 18, 2008
 
Speaking of Republican Nut Job quotes, this one was left out.

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror,”

Mitt Romney, at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington
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