New Obama refinancing plan aims to jolt housing- Study: US could lose $2.7B on clean-energy loans

like he "jolted" the auto industry?

carey529 wrote:

like he "jolted" the auto industry?

What's your point? Obama saved the US Auto industry. You must support Romney who said let the US Auto industry die.

Makes sense wrote:

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What's your point? Obama saved the US Auto industry. You must support Romney who said let the US Auto industry die.

How much did it cost the bond and share holder and the taxpayers...the only thing he save was his unions which were the cause of the problem from the start. pull your head out dip stick

Fox news? I thought this was from The Onion.

Makes sense wrote:

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What's your point? Obama saved the US Auto industry. You must support Romney who said let the US Auto industry die.

Oh, really? Don't be so fast in giving him credit without going into details. He saved at what cost? He has no problem spending money, and with money you can solve any problem. This what he really knows. If you tell me that he solved the problem without spending money, because he put his brains to work, then it is something else. Look what he is going to do with the housing market. Keep spending, give money to those people who bought those over-priced homes. People who were making $30K bought homes at $800K with the intention of flipping them and making some easy thousands. Romney is a really smart man, he said to let it take its course, and he is right. Why should the government bail out people who made mistakes because they were greedy. Who says that one has to own a home if cannot afford it? Houses which were $200K jumped to $500K that meant that everyone in this country had to be reach to be able to buy them. But if the banks gave them the money, they bought them. And now we have to pay the consecuences? Obama has trippled the debt we had, because all he knows is how to spend.

Makes sense wrote:

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What's your point? Obama saved the US Auto industry. You must support Romney who said let the US Auto industry die.

Yes, it makes sense what Romney said. He is saying that about the housing market too. And that is the right thing to do. Romney knows how to rehabilitate rundown business, Obama has no idea. He never worked in his life. He has no experience in any field.

Makes sense wrote:

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What's your point? Obama saved the US Auto industry. You must support Romney who said let the US Auto industry die.

He saved the auto industry at the cost to the stock holders and the taxpayers to buy the votes of the unions.The man doesn't have a clue of what he is doing.

Makes sense wrote:

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What's your point? Obama saved the US Auto industry. You must support Romney who said let the US Auto industry die.

obama saved nothing...he screwed EVERY bondholder, put tens of thousands out of work, paid off his union thugs, and the gm STILL owes the taxpayers 1.3 $BILLION!

my first point was "cash for clunkers"
THAT jolt, dolt!

Makes sense wrote:

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What's your point? Obama saved the US Auto industry. You must support Romney who said let the US Auto industry die.

Now Fiat owns Chrysler! We spent 14 billion dollars bailing out Chrysler and Chevrolet…saved around 100,000 jobs…that is about 1 million dollars per job.

Was this advertisement a way for Chrysler and Chevrolet to thank the President for not forcing them to go through bankruptcy and aid him in his campaign for a second term?

Buy a Ford, everyone. Piss off a liberal!

Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:

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Now Fiat owns Chrysler! We spent 14 billion dollars bailing out Chrysler and Chevrolet…saved around 100,000 jobs…that is about 1 million dollars per job.
Was this advertisement a way for Chrysler and Chevrolet to thank the President for not forcing them to go through bankruptcy and aid him in his campaign for a second term?
Buy a Ford, everyone. Piss off a liberal!

All I ever buy are Fords after getting but screwed buying Chevys and Mopars. 3 out of the 4 of them have anti-Obama sticker on the bumpers,I get many more thumbs up's from the conservatives than the normal middle finger from the peace loving liberals.

Makes sense wrote:

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What's your point? Obama saved the US Auto industry. You must support Romney who said let the US Auto industry die.

He bought GM and Chrysler a couple few years before they look for a 3rd and 4th handout from the tax payers.

Bwaaa,,,

gm is still losing money and never paid the U.S. taxpayer back

How is saving only 20% of the failed Home loans going to help? When the one's who really need the help can't get it like the thousands of failed home loans through Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and any VA or FHA Loans! 20% is just a bone It does no good we still have thousands who need the help and Obama does nothing but give out scraps! This man has no clue as to turn this shit around he's to caught up in making money instead of helping America!

Yup, GM is back on Top.
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but you are depressed by that news.
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carey529 wrote:

like he "jolted" the auto industry?

carey529 wrote:

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obama saved nothing...he screwed EVERY bondholder, put tens of thousands out of work, paid off his union thugs, and the gm STILL owes the taxpayers 1.3 $BILLION!
my first point was "cash for clunkers"
THAT jolt, dolt!

Bondholders would have lost EVERYTHING had Chapter 11 been imposed on the industry. It was a large expenditure, but in the process, many non performing companies were liquidated,(Pontiac, Hummer, Saturn), and many jobs were lost - but far less than what would have been lost through Chapter 11. GM stocks are now over $25.00 a share - it's now The #1 automaker in the world again, and if you recall, the UAW took a big hit at their last contract negotiation - 1% per year for the next 3 years, far less than the rate of inflation.

You also fail to recognize, or at the very least admit, the auto bailout was already negotiated through the Bush Administration - with virtually no strings attached - Obama made sure American taxpayers will get their money back.

You always focus on one part of the equation - what about the MILLIONS of potentially unemployed and bankrupted suppliers that would have ensued under Chapter 11?

Saved a bunch of AMERICAN Jobs..., right
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wait that is very depressing news for you.
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How dare we keep Americans working.

brad wrote:

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He bought GM and Chrysler a couple few years before they look for a 3rd and 4th handout from the tax payers.
Bwaaa,,,

waterdogg wrote:

How is saving only 20% of the failed Home loans going to help? When the one's who really need the help can't get it like the thousands of failed home loans through Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and any VA or FHA Loans! 20% is just a bone It does no good we still have thousands who need the help and Obama does nothing but give out scraps! This man has no clue as to turn this shit around he's to caught up in making money instead of helping America!

All he is doing is buying votes.If he was really concerned about the housing market and the country he would be putting the brakes on fannie and freddie.

waterdogg wrote:

How is saving only 20% of the failed Home loans going to help? When the one's who really need the help can't get it like the thousands of failed home loans through Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and any VA or FHA Loans! 20% is just a bone It does no good we still have thousands who need the help and Obama does nothing but give out scraps! This man has no clue as to turn this shit around he's to caught up in making money instead of helping America!

The only thing Obama does for the long term is protect and secure his own future like all carreer politicans.

Bwaaa,,,

Wow, looks like I hit a nerve. LOL

Poll: 20 Percent Of Republicans Would Vote Obama Given GOP Field

February 10, 2012 by Sam Rolley

UPI

A new poll indicates that many are unhappy with Presidential choices.

A recent poll conducted by WND and Wenzel Strategies finds that in match ups against Republican Presidential candidates, about 20 percent of Republicans said they would vote for Barack Obama for President.

The poll was conducted by telephone Feb. 1-3, 2012, and has a margin of error of 3.44 percentage points.

“The improvement in Obama’s prospects compared to the four remaining Republican challengers stems largely from two factors,” said pollster Fritz Wenzel.“First, Obama has largely avoided the political limelight while the GOP candidates savage each other with increasing intensity. Second, a smattering of evidence indicates that the economy is getting a little better, which helps the White House in the eyes of the voters. Secondly, the bloody fight for the Republican presidential nomination — by most estimations the nastiest GOP fight in memory — has really hurt the images of the challengers in the eyes of both Republicans and, especially, independent voters. For Republicans, each candidate carries with them now some taint that cannot be ignored.”

According to the poll results, Obama would likely beat any Republican if the election were held today, though Ron Paul has the best chance of beating him. Obama leads Paul in the poll 44 percent to 40 percent, with 16 percent undecided. Also from the poll, Mitt Romney is within single digits of Obama, 48 percent to 41 percent, and has a commanding lead over Newt Gingrich, 50 percent to 36 percent, and Rick Santorum, 49 percent to 34 percent.

Obama stimulus saved Texas from bankruptcy. Texas had to use the Obama stimulus money to balance the state budget. Obama saved Texas.3457