You would do better? Are you a senator or at least in some level of politics? Are you a public figure?<quoted text>
It's only a matter of degree. If war is more common or more brutal when religion is present, then it is a partial cause of the horror of the war whether it was all or part of the initial cause or not.
The complaint isn't that Christianity causes war, but that it facilitates it. That's why all the nonsense about whether Hitler was Christian or not is irrelevant. What mattered is that he had rule over a nation of Christians, whose clergy delivered the consent of the Christian majority with religious arguments, including Gott Mit Uns (look for the Gott Mit Mitt belt buckle coming soon).
To a Christian, ANYTHING that they think that their god wants or does is automatically loving, kind, just and merciful, including a final solution to the "Jewish problem." That's the damage that religion does in such a setting.
I know that Christianity didn't teach Hitler to do what he did, or cause that war. So what. It facilitated death and terror. That's good enough to reject it as a moral system, and want it gone form our lives. Hitler would have had a hard time with a nation composed of people like the unbelievers posting in these threads. What do you think we would say to Luther or Hitler?
For Luther, see  at http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
You're just wrong about this religion.
This is pretty dishonest. How could atheism play a role in anything?
Did you mean Communism, or Leninism, or Stalinism? They're just religions with despots as god - vicious ideologies and cults of personality. And they have nothing to do with any of the unbelievers that you are posting with here.
I'm a secular humanist. We'll do better than the spirit crushing, authoritarian ideologies of nihilism, despair, terror and violence like Christianity and Stalinism.
True Truth wrote: "Obviously where religious people are at war, religion will play some sort of role."
Unfortunately, it's one that facilitates and amplifies it, at least when the Abrahamic religions are involved.
Who will decide what is humanistic and what is not? You? Is the American nation going to listen to your version of humanism? When the military decides that Guantanamo bay is simply torturing a few humans to protect millions of humans, what would say? Would you call that humanistic? Or would you rather say Guantanamo is not humanistic and shut it down and be accused of putting millions of human lives at risk of terrorist attacks.
What is more humanistic? Capitalism or socialism? Who will decide?