BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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ANOTHER STILL UNANSWERED QUESTION
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Oh, I do understand what the Church teaches about the relationship between business owners and their employees and they teach that employees do the work while the owners supervise.
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Please cite the authoritative Roman Catholic Church document that supports your fantasy reading. Thank you.

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MORE QUESTIONS THAT ROUGE LACKS THE EDUCATION TO ANSWER INTELLIGENTLY
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If the economy is growing at the 2% annual rate and inflation is at the 4% annual rate, doesn't it mean we have a negative adjusted GDP and are still in a recession?!?
Not when inflation was 1.24% in the 18th month of Obama’s term.
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P.S. Why do you ignore the FACT that during the three year period beginning February 2009 our United States of America has seen the greatest creation of WEALTH in the entire history of the world including the time of the Babylonian Empire and the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt?
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Never in this great nation’s history has such an extraordinary accomplishment been achieved with virtually NO INFLATION (the “invisible tax”) at the same time as the obligations of our United States Treasury are at the highest level of creditworthiness in our 224-year history.
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According to The American Thinker Obama's average first two year GDP has been 2.4%. Oh, please notice that I left a source link.
Notice that your “source” does not provide any DATA, only their erroneous percentage calculation.
Show off your math skills. Tell the Class how much is the percentage increase to $15,177,400,000,000 from $13,939,000,000,000? Thank you.

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#83,778Grand Birther wrote:
Obama released a fraudulent long form birth certificate document!
How do we know this?
Fukino has told us so!
Terri Tanna wrote:
SO WHAT?
Why have you been so cowardly by not answering the repeated challenge to explain how (arguendo) releasing a fraudulent long form state-issued birth document is ILLEGAL and, more importantly, what bearing it has on presidential eligibility under Article II of our sacred Constitution.
ARE YOU SO PATHETICALLY IGNORANT OF THE LAW THAT THE CAT'S GOT YOUR TONGUE?

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#83,683[QUOTE who="True American]
Oh yes, we all know about the HIPAA.
Obumber, however, can obtain the records and present them, or give permission for them to confirm that he was born there.
Why does he not do this?[/QUOTE]
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Oblivious to the Obvious
Is Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate a forgery? Definitely yes, for those of us who have spent a lifetime writing and producing technical documents, and who remember how they were produced in pre-computer days, and who have the technical expertise today to produce them using computers. For us, it's been an "open secret" that the document image released by the White House on April 27, 2011 is a complete fake.
Please ONCE and FOR ALL TIME refresh for the Class (1) the constitutional principle,(2) the applicable statute,(3) any final federal appellate court holding, OR (4) the legal tradition that holds a state-issued birth document has any LEGAL BEARING on presidential eligibility under Art. II,§ 1,¶ 5 (orig’l) of the United States Constitution? Thank you.
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This should make you happy Wojar

http://www.westernjournalism.com/farrakhan-th...

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----------APRIL 2012
THE UPHILL BATTLE FACED BY OUR REVERED
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN FLAGBEARERS:
The Hard Economic Facts Confronting Geo. Romney

During the three year period beginning February 2009 our United States of America has seen the greatest creation of WEALTH in the entire history of the world including the time of the Babylonian Empire and the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt.[106.1% growth in U.S. equity markets]
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Never in this great nation’s history has such an extraordinary accomplishment been achieved with virtually no inflation (the “invisible tax”) at the same time as the obligations of our United States Treasury are at the highest level of creditworthiness in our 224-year history.[1.24% inflation in 18th month in office and 1.96% yield on the ten-year bond in the 36th month]
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[The marginal tax rate in 2011 for a family with taxable income of $65,000 filing a joint return is 15%-- the lowest rate since Title 26 began to affect all Americans in the 1930s – and a far cry from the confiscatory rate of 42% in 1984.]
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Sadly, for the unemployed (primarily the uneducated and the little people who lacked the common sense to attend our great nation’s elite Eastern colleges and professional schools), this unprecedented WEALTH CREATION has been distributed mostly to our already very wealthy conservative Republicans who own the nation’s largest private business enterprises that employ the little people and who belong to the most exclusive private country clubs that also employ the little people.
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These uncontestable hard ECONOMIC FACTS make it impossible for our conservative Republicans to argue against this nation’s unprecedented prosperity in November without resorting to criticism of the unemployment rate among the uneducated and the other little people. Unfortunately, this means that the Keynesian economics of wealth creation must be ignored while focusing on the economics of wealth DISTRIBUTION.
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The principal classical economists who were more concerned with wealth distribution than wealth creation are Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx. These are the economists whose principles are embraced tacitly by all of our conservative Republican politicians who whine about the level of unemployment while ignoring the greatest three-year period of prosperity in the history of the entire world.

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Two points here. This is not a Righty who is saying this. It is Greeny Ralph Nader.
Next, he did not tell me anything I did not already know. Clinton is as sly as they come and both he and Hillary never forgot the nasty tricks the Obamanites pulled them. But Obama can not afford to let Bill get to far away from him. As they say, Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.

Ralph Nader: Bill Clinton ‘laying the groundwork’ for Hillary by ‘undermining Obama’ Sunday, June 10, 2012

Former Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader told The Daily Caller that former President Bill Clinton is “undermining (President Barack) Obama” to lay the “groundwork” for Hillary Clinton’s presidential run in 2016.

Clinton recently told CNN that Republican candidate Mitt Romney’s business record at Bain Capital is “sterling.” TheDC asked Nader if he agreed with Clinton’s statement.

“He’s laying down the groundwork for Hillary Clinton running for president in 2016. Everything she is doing and everything he is doing argues that they want to run Hillary Clinton for president in 2016, so while he might appear with Obama in fundraisers in New York and elsewhere, he’s basically undermining Obama,” Nader told TheDC on Capitol Hill after advocating for raising the minimum wage to $10 per hour.
http://patriotupdate.com/24367/ralph-nader-bi...

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American Lady wrote:
The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Islam
Isn't that what this great nation is all about -- the freedom (if one chooses) to worship the God of Abraham along with those who are Jewish and those who are Christians?

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Clayton Rockwell wrote:
I hear the US goverment will be using more drones to watch its people.
Consider using some earwax cleaning fluid.

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
According to The American Thinker Obama's average first two year GDP has been 2.4%. Oh, please notice that I left a source link.
Terri Tanna wrote:
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Notice that your “source” does not provide any DATA, only their erroneous percentage calculation.
Show off your math skills. Tell the Class how much is the percentage increase to $15,177,400,000,000 from $13,939,000,000,000? Thank you.
Okay, what is YOUR source?
And if you are talking about the national debt, it was $10,626,877,000,000 but today it is $15,774,349,000,000 which means our National Debt has gone up 25% in less than three and a half years under O'Bummer!!!!

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STILL MORE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
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Please tell us something that is not obvious.
How can a document (that is not part of English common law) have any legal force and effect when it antedates the beginning of our constitutional republic? Tell the Class the legal force and effect of the Magna Carta in U.S. constitutional law. Thank you.
You're welcome.

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I don't give a damn about over a year and a half ago. I am talking about TODAY and what it probably will be come November!!!
As of TODAY:
During the three year period beginning February 2009 our United States of America has seen the greatest creation of WEALTH in the entire history of the world including the time of the Babylonian Empire and the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt.[106.1% growth in U.S. equity markets]
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Never in this great nation’s history has such an extraordinary accomplishment been achieved with virtually no inflation (the “invisible tax”) at the same time as the obligations of our United States Treasury are at the highest level of creditworthiness in our 224-year history.[1.24% inflation in 18th month in office and 1.96% yield on the ten-year bond in the 36th month]
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[The marginal tax rate in 2011 for a family with taxable income of $65,000 filing a joint return is 15%-- the lowest rate since Title 26 began to affect all Americans in the 1930s – and a far cry from the confiscatory rate of 42% in 1984.]
.
Sadly, for the unemployed (primarily the uneducated and the little people who lacked the common sense to attend our great nation’s elite Eastern colleges and professional schools), this unprecedented WEALTH CREATION has been distributed mostly to our already very wealthy conservative Republicans who own the nation’s largest private business enterprises that employ the little people and who belong to the most exclusive private country clubs that also employ the little people.
.
These uncontestable hard ECONOMIC FACTS make it impossible for our conservative Republicans to argue against this nation’s unprecedented prosperity in November without resorting to criticism of the unemployment rate among the uneducated and the other little people. Unfortunately, this means that the Keynesian economics of wealth creation must be ignored while focusing on the economics of wealth DISTRIBUTION.
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The principal classical economists who were more concerned with wealth distribution than wealth creation are Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx. These are the economists whose principles are embraced tacitly by all of our conservative Republican politicians who whine about the level of unemployment while ignoring the greatest three-year period of prosperity in the history of the entire world.

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
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Well, what do expect them to say these days? "We told him to go pound sand"? Of course they are sucking up to the first half white/half black president of the U.S.
wojar wrote:
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When reality hurts, Rouge goes into denial (and plays the race card again.)
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I'm racist? What exactly did I say that you think is racist?

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Next, what evidence do you have that G.W. ever used any illegal drugs?
He admits that he drank alcohol as a freshman in college.

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Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Let me put this in prospective for you of little brain. South of the Equator June is like our December and getting snow in the first week of their December doesn't sound right.
Power out in parts of New Zealand's South Island
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And who does Rouge fantasize didn't know it was winter in New Zealand?
Huh?
People with a Commonsense Quotient of less than 90!

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Just Sayin wrote:
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Evidence has shown that many women and children have been killed with Obama's drone attacks and after the attack Obama loves to watch the video over and over and over again.
Some of these drone killings have targeted American citizens.
Hope you're not next.
Sorry, I don't wail for the dead terrorist in a foreign country, no matter what his nationality may be.

Who weeps for terrorists? People who hate our country and a semi-white President with a funny name.
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Killing terrorists is a private war?
Who weeps for terrorists? People who hate a semi-white President with a funny name.
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Racists Never Take A Day Off: Supreme Court Refuses To Hear ‘Birther’ Argument…Again

http://newsone.com/2020095/birthers-supreme-c...

Poor Birfoons - just another day it must suck to be you

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LurkerLooky wrote:
The Biggest Cover-up in American History
In our previous article,“Exonerating President Obama,” we noted that the only Supreme
Court precedent for the meaning of the term “natural born Citizen” in Article II, Section 1
of the U.S. Constitution appears to be the Judge Harlan dissent in the United States v.
Wong Kim Ark case.
Please refer the Class to the source of the legal principle that ubiter dicta in a DISSENT has any force and effect in the grand 800-year old tradition of Anglo-American jurisprudence. Thank you.
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Just Sayin wrote:
Obama’s Secret Kill List
The leader of the government regularly sits down with his senior generals and spies and advisers and reviews a list of the people they want him to authorize their agents to kill. They do this every Tuesday morning when the leader is in town. The leader once condemned any practice even close to this, but now relishes the killing because he has convinced himself that it is a sane and sterile way to keep his country safe and himself in power. The leader, who is running for re-election, even invited his campaign manager to join the group that decides whom to kill.
This is not from a work of fiction, and it is not describing a series of events in the Kremlin or Beijing or Pyongyang. It is a fair summary of a 6,000-word investigative report in The New York Times earlier this week about the White House of Barack Obama. Two Times journalists, Jo Becker and Scott Shane, painstakingly and chillingly reported that the former lecturer in constitutional law and liberal senator who railed against torture and Gitmo now weekly reviews a secret kill list, personally decides who should be killed and then dispatches killers all over the world — and some of his killers have killed Americans.
We have known for some time that President Obama is waging a private war. By that I mean he is using the CIA on his own — and not the military after congressional authorization — to fire drones at thousands of persons in foreign lands, usually while they are riding in a car or a truck. He has done this both with the consent and over the objection of the governments of the countries in which he has killed. He doesn’t want to talk about this, but he doesn’t deny it. How chilling is it that David Axelrod — the president’s campaign manager — has periodically seen the secret kill list? Might this be to keep the killings politically correct?
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-secre...
So now you have become an apologist for AlQaeda and the Taliban,Just Sayin? You are pushing for more human rights for terrorists and assassins? Then why don't you start complaining on behalf of GWB's prisoners at Guantanamo? They need human rights too, no? God knows Obama has tried to shut the place down but NO COUNTRY in its right mind will take any of them back. Good move, George. Oh yes, keep standing up for AlQaeda and the Taliban, Just Sayin'. BTW, any news from the your buddy the Iranian minister of the interior, today?

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Terri Tanna wrote:
"SOME TROUBLESOME OPEN QUESTIONS"
Grand Birther wrote:
For once I agree.
Reason's NOT to trust Hawaii DOH?
Hawaii DOH has NEVER confirmed that the document that Obama released was an exact copy of the document that they had on file, and we know why.
Obama didn’t release an authentic Hawaii DOH issued document!
No Obama long form birth certificate released contains a raised visible embossed seal of authentication.
Ann Dunham’s signature on Obama’s fraudulent long form birth certificate is in two separate layers, even though it was allegedly created as a part of a single scan that would only create a single layer document.
There is no a logical reason for Obama’s long form birth certificate to have a mistake in the Registrar’s stamp, and no other birth certificate stamped by Alvin T Onaka containing that error is known to exist.
Sir, it was CONCEDED long ago that the internet-posted copies of the purported Obama state-issued birth document is PHONY -- truly a fake or, at best, a bad alteration of the original. CONCEDED LONG AGO.
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SO WHAT?
Please ONCE and FOR ALL TIME refresh for the Class (1) the constitutional principle,(2) the applicable statute,(3) any final federal appellate court holding, OR (4) the legal tradition that holds a state-issued birth document has any LEGAL BEARING on presidential eligibility under Art. II,§ 1,¶ 5 (orig’l) of the United States Constitution? Thank you.

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