Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

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President Barack Obama promised Monday to deliver more than 600,000 jobs through his $787 billion stimulus plan this summer, with federal agencies pumping billions into public works projects, schools and summer youth programs.
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“Marble Man”

Since: Jul 11

Destin, FL

#115882 Jun 16, 2012
The 600,000 jobs will go to the newly "un-deportable".
joe

San Anselmo, CA

#115883 Jun 16, 2012
You righty's here are the most defeatist, fearful, angriest group I've ever seen. Your behavior is the antithesis of American confidence.

If you are representative of what the current Republican party values and is offering the American people then we'd be fools to vote for those attitudes.

It looks like, in spite of your protestations, that you have become the real anti-Americans. Get back on track, please. Where's your decency.
finding

Jonesboro, AR

#115884 Jun 16, 2012
gaytor_bayt wrote:
<quoted text>
How can Obama offer anyone a job? Do you actually mean he's going to put all these young people to work in the White House? Exactly what kind of power do you think he has anyway? We don't elect Kings or Dictators in the U.S or were you unaware of this?
We didn't elect a dictator when we elected bommie but.......that's what we got, this is why he can't return to office. November 2012 is coming soon, thank God.
Politics as usual

Huntington Station, NY

#115885 Jun 16, 2012
joe wrote:
You righty's here are the most defeatist, fearful, angriest group I've ever seen. Your behavior is the antithesis of American confidence.
If you are representative of what the current Republican party values and is offering the American people then we'd be fools to vote for those attitudes.
It looks like, in spite of your protestations, that you have become the real anti-Americans. Get back on track, please. Where's your decency.
could it be that people get angry when they see the corruption, kickbacks and payoffs going on in the face of high unemployment.

skyrocketing debt as the democrats concentrate more on paying off their supporters and special interest groups with money we do not have,

and then want to raise taxes on the rest of us to pay for their payoffs and kickbacks,

not to mention the total disregard for citizens by the president who abuses the taxpayers, flying separate planes at our expense,spends more time flying around to fundraisers at taxpayers expense, spends more time on the golf course and at concerts and vacations then taking care of problems while the rest of us face continual high unemployment,

calls people who oppose him teabaggers, and totally disregards the balance of power.

spends more time making legislation to help him get reelected then to help the American people,

and to boot we have the corrupt media slanting the truth in order to push their left wing agenda,

and you wonder why we are angry.

but antiamerican, for that you lefties need to look into the mirror, and look at your actions and that of the democratic party and president.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#115886 Jun 16, 2012
TSM wrote:
<quoted text>
Okboston I find your statement “Priceless” first Republicans believes in Lower Taxes Liberals/Democrats advocate for Higher Taxes but go through great length to avoid paying their own!
Boston… Some 41 different Senior Obama Administration Officials have been identified as tax cheats, owing over $840 million in back taxes, Buffett owes billions in back taxes, Charlie Rangel, John Kerry, Tom Daschle and the Smartest Man In America Tim Geithner all try to avoid paying their Fair Share now that’s hypocrisy!!!
Hypocracy is thinking that the party of morality does not have enough tax cheats of their own.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#115887 Jun 16, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
1) Businesses strive to maximize profit.
2) Profit = revenue less cost of goods sold (including interest & taxes). Profit must be >0 or the business fails. Businesses are run at the minimum "hurdle rate" profit margins demanded by shareholders.
3) Competitive markets in the long run drive out excess profits
4) Ceteris paribus then, increase in taxes on revenue = increase in COGS, requiring a dollar-for-dollar increase in revenue to maintain profits at the required hurdle rate.
5) Taxes levied on corporations are therefore passed straight on to their cusutomers in the price of their products.
QED.
You are dismissed.
1. Some businesses strive to maximize profit. Others strive to maintain sustainability. Two different things but one lasts longer than the other.

2. Your statement contradicts your first statement, but we can agree that over time any business has to make a profit. That time is dependent upon the financing available to fund it during during times it is not making a profit.

3. Competitive markets are without monopolies. Monopolies occur naturally in a free market.

4. Wrong again. An increase in taxes can be offset by decreased costs in other areas or in lower profit margins. Just like any other business expense.

Pull out those financial creds again and ask what they are really good for. Because they are not good for reality. Study Walmart, they are experts in getting increases in one area paid for by pressure on suppliers in another area.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#115888 Jun 16, 2012
Politics as usual wrote:
<quoted text>
to me the whole idea about the politicians is that i do not want to encourage lifelong politicians, i want them to serve a few terms and then go back to private life, so frankly i do not want to pay them in a way that they want to spend their life as politicians.
frankly, i would cut their pay, and get those who want to serve for the chance to make their country better, rather then padding their pockets.
as far as obama, he inherited a bad economy, but he has made it much much worse, his policies are horrendous, and this economy will not improve unless he is voted out, or it will improve before the election, if the people feel that he is most likely to be voted out.
it all goes back to the fact that his so called stimulus was a big fat payoff to his supporters that put us deeper in debt,
and that he spent a year ramming through obamacare, despite the fact that the American people made it clear that they did not want it.
And you have what you wish for. A politician beholding to corporations who stays for a short time and then goes into industry making millions.

How many politicians last more than 12 years at the federal level? Why, because they can get great jobs for doing corporate favors which pay them oodles and oodles to do nothing or not much.

Great job!
drink The hiVe

New York, NY

#115889 Jun 16, 2012
The Erode Of Civil Liberties In This Country Is Getting Worse By The Minute...

http://i54.tinypic.com/kb6g51.jpg
joe

San Anselmo, CA

#115890 Jun 17, 2012
A reposted answer to your idiocy. BTW these are all facts, not opinions or conjecture or talking point dribble.

Here's the truth behind the right wing myth of the "liberal press" :

In 1983, 90% of American media was owned by 50 companies.

In 2011 that same 90% was conrrolled by 6 companies.

Those Big Six companies are:

GE - NewsCorp - Disney - Viacom - Time Warner - CBS

232 Media Executives control the information diet of 277 million Americans. That's 1 media exec to 850,000 subscribers.

The Big Six control 70% of your cable. 3,762 contribute 30%.

NewsCorp(Fox/Murdoch) owns the top newspaper on 3 continents. In 2010 alone they avoided $875 million in US taxes.

In 1995 the FCC forbade companies to own over 40 stations. Clear Channel owns 1,200.

Everywhere in the United States 80% of stations playlists match.

The BigSix's movie box office sales ($7 billion) are 2 times that of the next 140 studios.

Enablde by FCC deregulation and a decades-long orgy of mergers and acquisitions, these 6 giants, the BigSix, dominate our media landscape.

Until regulations return they will continue to control 90% of everything Americans see, hear and consider important.

Yeah those 6 companies are all a bunch of socialists aren't they?
Politics as usual

Huntington Station, NY

#115891 Jun 17, 2012
the more you look at obama's failed policies the more you realize that Obama is not just a bad president, he is the worst president in the history of this country,

virtually every single policy he has enacted has been based on one thing, paying off supporters and buying votes even if it puts the welfare and the future of the country on the line.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...

http://news.investors.com/article/615090/2012...

the corrupt mainstream media has done a tremendous disservice to our country with their biased reporting and lack of reporting of the facts.

that is why they could not wait to try to blame the interrupting of the president on racism, decorum should be followed, but certainly a president who time after time ignores the balance of power and makes decisions not in the best interests of the country but to get votes, needs to be questioned,

and the president who works for the people needs to be accountable to the people for his actions.

but instead there seems to be a continued thrill down the legs of the corrupt, as well as the thrill in the Hollywood sect, who rake in millions in high priced movie tickets and then use that to stick a knife into the back of America.
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#115892 Jun 17, 2012
joe wrote:
You righty's here are the most defeatist, fearful, angriest group I've ever seen. Your behavior is the antithesis of American confidence.
If you are representative of what the current Republican party values and is offering the American people then we'd be fools to vote for those attitudes.
It looks like, in spite of your protestations, that you have become the real anti-Americans. Get back on track, please. Where's your decency.
I have unbounded confidence, one the present Incompetent-in-Chief is run out of the White House and we get some real leadership in there.
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#115893 Jun 17, 2012
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Some businesses strive to maximize profit. Others strive to maintain sustainability. Two different things but one lasts longer than the other.
Nonsense. One and the same thing. Well-managed businesses strive to maximize sustainable profits.

Next.
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
2. Your statement contradicts your first statement, but we can agree that over time any business has to make a profit. That time is dependent upon the financing available to fund it during during times it is not making a profit.
" ... over time any business has to make a profit." Thank you.

The rest of your post is nonsensical burbling.

Next.
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
3. Competitive markets are without monopolies. Monopolies occur naturally in a free market.
... and are outlawed in the US, and therefore irrelevant to the discussion. More nonsensical burbling.

Next.
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
4. Wrong again. An increase in taxes can be offset by decreased costs in other areas or in lower profit margins. Just like any other business expense.
I stated "ceteris parabus," OKB. All other things being equal, and in the long run - your point is fallacious. I have no interest in debating the bizarre exception that you think "proves" your fallacious "rule."

My statement stands PROVEN: Ceteris paribus and in the long run, taxes levied on corporations are simply passed on to, and therefore paid by, their customers in the prices of their products.

Dismissed.
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#115894 Jun 17, 2012
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
A reposted answer to your idiocy. BTW these are all facts, not opinions or conjecture or talking point dribble.
Here's the truth behind the right wing myth of the "liberal press" :
In 1983, 90% of American media was owned by 50 companies.
In 2011 that same 90% was conrrolled by 6 companies.
Those Big Six companies are:
GE - NewsCorp - Disney - Viacom - Time Warner - CBS
So what? I'm not seeing the problem here. Did they cancel your favorite program or something, joe?
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
232 Media Executives control the information diet of 277 million Americans. That's 1 media exec to 850,000 subscribers.
That's good - way less concentrated than the federal government, in which 1 incompetent POTUS presently controls the political life of 300 million Americans.
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
The Big Six control 70% of your cable. 3,762 contribute 30%.
NewsCorp(Fox/Murdoch) owns the top newspaper on 3 continents.
So what? I'm not seeing the problem here.
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
In 2010 alone they avoided $875 million in US taxes.
Good job. Tax avoidance is the sacred duty of every American. Well done.
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
In 1995 the FCC forbade companies to own over 40 stations. Clear Channel owns 1,200.
Liar.

"Local Radio Ownership. The rule imposes restrictions based on a sliding scale that varies by the size of the market:(1) in a radio market with 45 or more stations, an entity may own up to eight radio stations, no more than five of which may be in the same service (AM or FM); (2) in a radio market with between 30 and 44 radio stations, an entity may own up to seven radio stations, no more than four of which may be in the same service; (3) in a radio market hosting between 15 and 29 radio stations, an entity may own up to six radio stations, no more than four of which may be in the same service; and (4) in a radio market with 14 or fewer radio stations, an entity may own up to five radio stations, no more than three of which may be in the same service, as long as the entity does not own more than 50 percent of all radio stations in that market."

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/review-broadcast-ow...
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Everywhere in the United States 80% of stations playlists match.
So what? I'm not seeing the problem here. Can't get your indy garage band's record played, joe?
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
The BigSix's movie box office sales ($7 billion) are 2 times that of the next 140 studios.
So what? I'm not seeing the problem here.
joe wrote:
<quoted text>
Enablde by FCC deregulation and a decades-long orgy of mergers and acquisitions, these 6 giants, the BigSix, dominate our media landscape.
Until regulations return they will continue to control 90% of everything Americans see, hear and consider important.
Are you that much of a driveling mindless tool that you're seriously worried about the media mind-controlling you, joe?

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#115895 Jun 17, 2012
Teddy R wrote:
<quoted text>
Nonsense. One and the same thing. Well-managed businesses strive to maximize sustainable profits.
Next.
<quoted text>
" ... over time any business has to make a profit." Thank you.
The rest of your post is nonsensical burbling.
Next.
<quoted text>
... and are outlawed in the US, and therefore irrelevant to the discussion. More nonsensical burbling.
Next.
<quoted text>
I stated "ceteris parabus," OKB. All other things being equal, and in the long run - your point is fallacious. I have no interest in debating the bizarre exception that you think "proves" your fallacious "rule."
My statement stands PROVEN: Ceteris paribus and in the long run, taxes levied on corporations are simply passed on to, and therefore paid by, their customers in the prices of their products.
Dismissed.
Why are you changing the wording of your statement? Because you were wrong. Maximizing profit without looking at the sustainability of it (something left out of your initial statement) is a short term plan for long term failure. All one has to do is look at the finance and housing industries 2003 - 2008.

Yet, monopolies (which are allowed to exist even though there are laws that allow their dismantling....monopolies are actually not illegal) are the end result in a completely free market environment.

Of course you never will debate anything that you have a problem with.
Correct-O-Bot

Mclean, VA

#115896 Jun 17, 2012
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you changing the wording of your statement? Because you were wrong. Maximizing profit without looking at the sustainability of it (something left out of your initial statement) is a short term plan for long term failure. All one has to do is look at the finance and housing industries 2003 - 2008.
Yet, monopolies (which are allowed to exist even though there are laws that allow their dismantling....monopolies are actually not illegal) are the end result in a completely free market environment.
Of course you never will debate anything that you have a problem with.
More burbling completely irrelevant to the point at issue:

My statement remains PROVEN: Ceteris paribus and in the long run, taxes levied on corporations are simply passed on to, and therefore paid by, their customers in the prices of their products.

You're dismissed.
Bjorn

Stockholm, Sweden

#115897 Jun 17, 2012
Ron Paul will make a few milions more new jobs in USA.
Ron Paul:
peace
prosperity
saving and proceting all human lives
He is really the greatest and the best presidential candidate and the only chance for USA.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#115898 Jun 17, 2012
Correct-O-Bot wrote:
<quoted text>
More burbling completely irrelevant to the point at issue:
My statement remains PROVEN: Ceteris paribus and in the long run, taxes levied on corporations are simply passed on to, and therefore paid by, their customers in the prices of their products.
You're dismissed.
Yes, if only your statement did not apply just theoretically in this case. We both know that things never remain the same in business. If they did anyone could successfully run a business because once you got it started, it would remain the same.

So once again, you are wrong.
Correct-O-Bot

Mclean, VA

#115899 Jun 17, 2012
okboston wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, if only your statement did not apply just theoretically in this case. We both know that things never remain the same in business. If they did anyone could successfully run a business because once you got it started, it would remain the same.
So once again, you are wrong.
More lame attempts at off-topic deflection and obfuscatory burbling.

My statement remains PROVEN: Ceteris paribus and in the long run, taxes levied on corporations are simply passed on to, and therefore paid by, their customers in the prices of their products.

You're dismissed.
joe

San Anselmo, CA

#115900 Jun 17, 2012
Teddy's of the world-

You are hilariously predictable and transparent. You attack (in good Rovian technique) others on their strengths (the facts and their objectivity) while at the same time pretending, at least to the other mush-heads of your persuasion, that somehow you're an expert, based solely on your own declaration.

You're in reality, as far up the ass of the corporate, tea party ditzes, as you accuse even the moderates on this forum of being. More so, really.

We all know why you don't have a problem with the facts of concentrated media ownership, you're also happy with the concentration of wealth in the 1% and out of the spending hands of the middle class. Which is the fundamental reason behind our economic crises.

So why should you have a problem with the facts of concentrated media ownership, they represent your twisted right wing agenda. Showing us all how you either missed (intentionally or accidentally) the point of my post which was stated quite clearly in the first sentence of the original post:

" Here's the truth behind the right wing myth of the liberal press " ,

not some misdirecting, subject-changing garbage about mind control. Even an ass-kissing uber-corporatist such as you knows why the WORLD should fear the concentration of news, information, etc., in the hands of fewer and fewer multi-national corporations. The difference between you and me is that that concentration is so obviously far-right, and that's you.

And that leads to how you screwed up in your reply to my post. Your giant ego and hubris got the best of you. You are only happy with the facts of concentrated ownership of media because it IS right wing and not left-wing, as you and other half-wits on this forum are always parroting.

It's a right wing dominated, corporate media that we have in America.

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In 1983, 90% of American media was owned by 50 companies.

In 2011 that same 90% was conrrolled by 6 companies.

Those Big Six companies are:

GE - NewsCorp - Disney - Viacom - Time Warner - CBS

232 Media Executives control the information diet of 277 million Americans. That's 1 media exec to 850,000 subscribers.

The Big Six control 70% of your cable. 3,762 contribute 30%.

NewsCorp(Fox/Murdoch) owns the top newspaper on 3 continents. In 2010 alone they avoided $875 million in US taxes.

In 1995 the FCC forbade companies to own over 40 stations. Clear Channel owns 1,200.

Everywhere in the United States 80% of stations playlists match.

The BigSix's movie box office sales ($7 billion) are 2 times that of the next 140 studios.

Enablde by FCC deregulation and a decades-long orgy of mergers and acquisitions, these 6 giants, the BigSix, dominate our media landscape.

Until regulations return they will continue to control 90% of everything Americans see, hear and consider important.

Yeah those 6 companies are all a bunch of socialists aren't they?

I'll leave off the typically egocentric closing you're so enamored of (You're dismissed). It's just so adolescent, even as a joke.

Since: Aug 07

South Central Virginia

#115901 Jun 17, 2012
Correct-O-Bot wrote:
<quoted text>
More lame attempts at off-topic deflection and obfuscatory burbling.
My statement remains PROVEN: Ceteris paribus and in the long run, taxes levied on corporations are simply passed on to, and therefore paid by, their customers in the prices of their products.
You're dismissed.
Prove your statement is an accurate reflection of operating a business. That over the long run all expenses remain where they started as a proportion of business income.

You and I both know you can not do it because it is not true just as I stated. Once again you run and hide behind fallicious statements claiming they are true because you say so.

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