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Joran van der Sloot Confessed to the murder of Stephany .Flores

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Expert: Van der Sloot Free in 5 Years?'So What?'
Mar 8, 2011 – 1:45 PM
Joran van der Sloot's new legal strategy has people around the globe angry over the possibility that the Dutch native could be freed in less than five years in the death of a Peruvian woman.
But what is being viewed as an insult to justice won't necessarily ensure his early release, an international defense expert says.
"We want Peru to accept a plea," said Michael Griffith, senior partner at the International Legal Defense Counsel. "So what if he gets a lesser sentence? That would be the best thing for everyone involved."
Griffith said that van der Sloot's willingness to make a plea might get him out of a Peruvian prison sooner than expected -- prosecutors says there is sufficient evidence to keep him jailed until 2040 -- but that there is one thing the Dutchman is not considering, and that's Natalee Holloway.
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/08/joran-exper...
As stated in the same article, Natalee's body has never been found and Van der Sloot has never been charged with her murder. The outstanding warrant in Alabama for the alleged extortion doesn't guarantee that he will be found guilty and sent to prison in the U.S.
He should be tried in Peru, where there is enough evidence to convict him and sentence him to the maximim prison term for the murder of Stephany Flores. The Peruvian judge should reject his offer of a plea deal.
"We want Peru to accept a plea," said Michael Griffith, senior partner at the International Legal Defense Counsel. "So what if he gets a lesser sentence? That would be the best thing for everyone involved."
The best thing for everyone involved? Really? Does he mean the best thing for Van der Sloot?
Who is the "we" he is talking about? He's a defense attorney.

"Van der Sloot would probably face a five- to 10-year sentence for the alleged extortion, but it is Holloway's alleged murder that could keep him behind bars for life, Griffith said."

"Alleged extortion; alleged murder". We all know how criminals have more rights than the victims in the U.S. My heart aches for the Holloway family but Van der Sloot is a proven pathological liar
and they are never going to find out what happened to their daughter, I would fight against the plea deal. Go with the slam dunk case. Why should we pay to house this person and give him a cushy life in our prisons. He deserves to be in a foreign jail where they treat their criminals like the criminals they are. I would bet he still won't have it as bad as most of them, his family has enough money to "pay" for "perks".

2040 is only 29 years, why isn't he getting life? He's 23 now which would make him 52 when he gets out if he serves the full term, I don't know if they have a "good behavior" clause, for lack of a better term. He should serve his time in Peru and then be extradited to the US and tried on the other charges.

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"The key to that is that the U.S. has jurisdiction over anybody, anywhere in the world, who kills or injures a U.S. citizen," Griffith said. "It kind of originated with the Leon Klinghoffer case."

I still would like to know why the U.S. did not step in and launch their own investigation regarding Daniel's death in the Bahamas.
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Who is the "we" he is talking about? He's a defense attorney.
"Van der Sloot would probably face a five- to 10-year sentence for the alleged extortion, but it is Holloway's alleged murder that could keep him behind bars for life, Griffith said."
"Alleged extortion; alleged murder". We all know how criminals have more rights than the victims in the U.S. My heart aches for the Holloway family but Van der Sloot is a proven pathological liar
and they are never going to find out what happened to their daughter, I would fight against the plea deal. Go with the slam dunk case. Why should we pay to house this person and give him a cushy life in our prisons. He deserves to be in a foreign jail where they treat their criminals like the criminals they are. I would bet he still won't have it as bad as most of them, his family has enough money to "pay" for "perks".
2040 is only 29 years, why isn't he getting life? He's 23 now which would make him 52 when he gets out if he serves the full term, I don't know if they have a "good behavior" clause, for lack of a better term. He should serve his time in Peru and then be extradited to the US and tried on the other charges.
Hi Bella, Good Morning!

Beth Twitty is outrage with Van der Sloot's plea offer, she knows that there is no way that he can be brought to justice for the "disappearance" of her daughter, unless he confess to the murder and tell her where her body is. She is talking with the Flores family, they won't allow the government of Peru to accept Van der Sloot's offer.

The problem that I see with this is that if Van der Sloot only serves two to three years in Peru, and is extradited to the U.S., he might be able to afford the best defense that money can buy. IYNWIM.

I believe that in Peru a life sentence is a maximum of 35 years, "life" doesn't mean that he will be imprisoned for the rest of his existence, under the law. he can only get the maximum allowed under the law.

IIRC, the government of Aruba didn't allow the FBI to get involved into the investigation of Natalee's "disappearance", I believed that they were blocked from taken action because of Van der Sloot's father political influence.

The saddest thing about all of this is that the only way that Natalee's family can get some form of justice, is through the vindication of Stephany's murder.
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Bella Mia wrote:
"The key to that is that the U.S. has jurisdiction over anybody, anywhere in the world, who kills or injures a U.S. citizen," Griffith said. "It kind of originated with the Leon Klinghoffer case."
I still would like to know why the U.S. did not step in and launch their own investigation regarding Daniel's death in the Bahamas.
I agree. I would also like to know there wasn't even an attempt from the FBI to step into the investigation of Daniel's sudden death 11 hours after he arrived in the Bahamas.
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*I would also like to know WHY there wasn't even an attempt
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Bella Mia wrote:
"The key to that is that the U.S. has jurisdiction over anybody, anywhere in the world, who kills or injures a U.S. citizen," Griffith said. "It kind of originated with the Leon Klinghoffer case."
I still would like to know why the U.S. did not step in and launch their own investigation regarding Daniel's death in the Bahamas.
"The passive personality principle is an interesting offshoot of the nationality principle. It looks to the nationality of the victim to determine jurisdiction, holding that a state may assert jurisdiction over persons and events outside a state's territory on the basis that its citizen has been harmed. In the case of United States v. Roberts, 1 F.Supp. 2d 601 (E.D. La. 1998), which had an unusual set of facts, the victim of a crime of sexual abuse of a minor (who was a U.S. citizen) had a case tried against her aggressor who was a citizen of the Caribbean island of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines. The crime took place on international waters on board a ship registered in Liberia and owned by a company incorporated in the Republic of Panama. None of the regular methods of jurisdiction, forum non conveniens, or comity would have worked. Id. The defendant was indicted by a federal grand jury in the Eastern District of Louisiana and the defendant's motion to dismiss for lack of personal jurisdiction was denied by the federal district court, which found jurisdiction under the passive personality principle."
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FBI Agents Traveling To Peru To Examine Joran Van Der Sloot's Laptop

Posted on Mar 10, 2011 @ 02:30PM

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