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Jan 17, 2012 | Posted by: Agent of Chaos

Georgia Department of Agriculture Finds Big Ag Lobby Made False Claims about HB87

Full story: immigrationreform.com

On January 3 the Georgia Department of Agriculture (GADOA) released a report on the effect of HB87, Georgia’s immigration enforcement law, on farmers in the state. The report, required by HB87, deflates the apocalyptic claims by the agribusiness lobby that the law would cause “crops to rot in the fields” and food prices to skyrocket. FAIR’s analysis of the report shows the claims made by corporate farms are false, and that those who benefit from employing illegal workers can afford to pay wages up to 40 percent higher and still remain profitable. It is not surprising that the GADOA report would substantiate FAIR’s work, but what is surprising is that the passage of HB87 had virtually no impact on the profitability of even the largest growers in Georgia

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Dee Dee Dee

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This explains why none of the "farmers" actually advertise for farm labor or even look beyond the "contractors" that have been supplying them with illegal labor for years.
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Guess Americans will do those jobs. This may effect owners profits slightly but it appears they can afford it. More important it shows that the hysteria of those who encourage illegals are more than capable of shooting themselves in the head

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Goddamn greedy farmers are a pack of liars along with being traitors. Hire american, you scumheads!!!
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Nothing like good ol southern honesty

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Absolutely ridiculous! They want to lie to keep their cheap illegal alien labor when they could take advantage of H-2A visas. Of course, they won't because it's too much money and too much red tape.

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Speeders Kill Kids wrote:
Goddamn greedy farmers are a pack of liars along with being traitors. Hire american, you scumheads!!!
Then they would have to pay liviable wages!

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The Truth comes out, Thank You FAIR. DEPORT ALL illegal immigrants...
Giovanni

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Once again your comments are stupid.
Rebel wrote:
Absolutely ridiculous! They want to lie to keep their cheap illegal alien labor when they could take advantage of H-2A visas. Of course, they won't because it's too much money and too much red tape.
Excellent Article

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Gawd I dislike liars! If you can't prove what you claim, you shouldn't make the claim at all! Excellent article!

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Giovanni wrote:
Once again your comments are stupid.
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Stalker.

You can't even provide any reasons as to why you believe this to be the case.

Farmers have unlimited access to H-2A visas. Therefore there should be no reason to hire illegal aliens except that farmers love their cheap slaves.

You obviously cannot think for yourself.
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I find it rather ironic that so-called liberals run to the defense of those who openly demand the right to oppress those that work for them, ignore labor laws, safety laws, tax laws, health laws, environmental laws and wage laws. In fact all the laws that liberals love to impose on businesses.
Free is free

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Jan 18, 2012
 
Gee. AgriBusiness is er.. inflating its claims about the negative impact losing its black market workforce will have. Surprise, surprise..
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Don't you lose your patience with people who lie? I do!
Dee Dee Dee

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Just want to bump this. There were tons of stories about how the "poor farmers" were going to go out of business due to the loss of slave labor. Now that the facts are out it seems there is nothing but silence from the media and those posters that believed those opinion pieces were fact. ATI where are you? LOL
Free is free

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IMO, AgriBusiness took a long look, realized it's going to lose this one and set about the business of revamping its business plan. That's the smart way to do it.

There will still be hue and cry from those who cannot think of a way to get back what they've 'lost', but that's just shrieking of the feeble-minded losing their grasp.
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
Just want to bump this. There were tons of stories about how the "poor farmers" were going to go out of business due to the loss of slave labor. Now that the facts are out it seems there is nothing but silence from the media and those posters that believed those opinion pieces were fact. ATI where are you? LOL
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Free is free wrote:
IMO, AgriBusiness took a long look, realized it's going to lose this one and set about the business of revamping its business plan. That's the smart way to do it.
There will still be hue and cry from those who cannot think of a way to get back what they've 'lost', but that's just shrieking of the feeble-minded losing their grasp.
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Don't expect them to give up easily. Large agricultural companies have been exploiting their labor in the U.S. and around the world for centuries. In the U.S. they are the least regulated and most powerful industry in the country. While they want you to think this is about the survival of the independent business and family farm it is exactly the opposite. It is about a few large companies being able to undercut their smaller competitors and gain control of the market. What better way to undercut the competition than to keep labor cost down by ignoring labor, tax, safety, sanitary and environmental laws?
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I'm just wondering why people like Commissioner Black can't be brought up on charges. He testified *to the GA Sentate* before the passage of HB 87 that CY2011 losses would be about $150M. Those losses were in fact $10M, or .0013% of the GA state economy.

That dude flat-out lied to try and kill a bill that's proven good for citizens and he's still walking the streets? Something needs to be done to rein lobbyists in.
Dee Dee Dee

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Free is free wrote:
I'm just wondering why people like Commissioner Black can't be brought up on charges. He testified *to the GA Sentate* before the passage of HB 87 that CY2011 losses would be about $150M. Those losses were in fact $10M, or .0013% of the GA state economy.
That dude flat-out lied to try and kill a bill that's proven good for citizens and he's still walking the streets? Something needs to be done to rein lobbyists in.
That was an estimate based strickly on data provided by the criminals who hire illegal aliens. Perhaps they are losing that much money but they can't report the losses since the money lost was illegal profit. I think the state and federal governments should start investigating them for tax fraud.
Giovanni

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Rebel wrote:
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Stalker.
You can't even provide any reasons as to why you believe this to be the case.
Farmers have unlimited access to H-2A visas. Therefore there should be no reason to hire illegal aliens except that farmers love their cheap slaves.
You obviously cannot think for yourself.
Oh so by reading all this comments makes me a stalker? You wish I was your stalker. And who cares if farmers have unlimited access to visas for immigrants? All they're trying to do is to help their families. I bet the veggies you eat are grown by those "cheap slaves" huh.

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Giovanni wrote:
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Oh so by reading all this comments makes me a stalker? You wish I was your stalker. And who cares if farmers have unlimited access to visas for immigrants? All they're trying to do is to help their families. I bet the veggies you eat are grown by those "cheap slaves" huh.
The point is, WE DO NOT NEED ILLEGAL ALIENS. Farmers have H-2A visas if they need workers. We care because if they utilized the LEGAL way to bring workers here, they would not be hiring illegal aliens. Are you that dumb so as not to understand the concept?

These people can "help their families" in their own countries. And, if they cannot afford to have children, they need to keep their legs closed and their pants up or learn all about birth control. WE, the taxpayers of the United States, do not need to be paying for these moochers. They are nothing more than interlopers who circumvent our laws. They break our laws. They are criminals.

We have enough of our own homegrown criminals. We do not need to import more, much less illegally so.

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