Palin: Wis. Unions Must Be 'Willing to Sacrifice'

But rich people should sacrifice 10 times more. Especially rich brats.

oh good, a palin thread...
this ought to keep the left wing loons occupied for a while...
since THEY'RE the only ones that seem to care what she says or does.

spew away!

I guess this will replace the B.Bush hates Alaska thread.

That's what the left does...spew hate, disruptions.

In 2012, rid the state legislatures, congress and senate of these democrats and get rid of Barak Obama as President.

Obama is encouraging disruption of this country.

He is an agitator. The USA needs to be united. OBama seeks to divide and conquer.

You will have NO voice....just sit in the back.

I am tired of coverage of this sort of thing without explaining the facts. Wisconsin has bill collectors nipping at their heels because they don't have the money to pay the bills. The state has to do something. What are they fighting about, on average public employees are making 3,000 a year more than private employees. 20% of private employees have pensions vs 80% of public employees. Not that much different than GM. GM gave so much in benefits that hey had to go bankrupt to get out of pension obligations. What is the answer of the protesters, double taxes??????

Where I live they have cut benefits of employees hired after a certain date to deal with it and they had no problem doing it because we don't have collective bargaining. It was not popular with employees but the sky did not fall. We have to deal with realities.

What Unions really need to do is go and F_CK THEMSELVES, in the heart..

I read,
this Gov. Scott Walker & Trump for President,
in 2012.
That would bring the demons out of the closet.!!!!

Gov. Scott Walker & Ron Paul for President,
in 2012.
Man. Would that be some ass-kicking stuff or what? They would make Obama and dum-dum look like Dumb and Dumber!

jimmy the geek wrote:

teachers don't give a sh*t about the kids they babysit ... they cannot even give them a mediocre education anymore!!! as evident by the kids forced to attend the pep rally in madison & not even knowing why they are there ... just knowing they got a day off because the teachers called in sick to go to the same rally!
teachers never care about the kids ... only themselves - the huge paychecks & how many days they can get off of work during the year!!!!!
UNION NO! bust the unions and privatize education - private institutions teach kids much better with 1/2 the money!!!

I think most Teachers are good people. They are FORCED to join with the Gangsters who run the Unions and couldn't care LESS about quality education.

To all those ripping into unions. You must remember that union contracts have been negotiated. Someone else on the other side of the table have signed off on giving the unions the benefits union members receive. Instead of vilifying the unions, why not go after those higher up that negotiated on your behalf.

Unions are not in the business of teaching children, fighting fires, patrolling streets, picking up garbage, etc. Unions are in the business of protecting the rights of its membership and getting the best contract for its members that it can.

What's happening in Wisconsin is not about union memberships not sharing in the burden of a bad economy. The Wisconsin governor has said it is not about the unions making concessions, it's about dismantling the unions and stripping them of their ability to work for their membership.

DaveinMass wrote:

To all those ripping into unions. You must remember that union contracts have been negotiated. Someone else on the other side of the table have signed off on giving the unions the benefits union members receive. Instead of vilifying the unions, why not go after those higher up that negotiated on your behalf.
Unions are not in the business of teaching children, fighting fires, patrolling streets, picking up garbage, etc. Unions are in the business of protecting the rights of its membership and getting the best contract for its members that it can.
What's happening in Wisconsin is not about union memberships not sharing in the burden of a bad economy. The Wisconsin governor has said it is not about the unions making concessions, it's about dismantling the unions and stripping them of their ability to work for their membership.

I hope things change in the attitudes of the owners and stock holders. STOP NEGOTIATING. Let them strike and then fire every last mother and son of them. Just like Regan did with the ATC. Unions today need to be broken. They have all outlived their usefullnes. If unions were really needed then every worker in the US would be in one but union workers are a small minority. Yet just look at the damage they have and are doing.

DaveinMass wrote:

To all those ripping into unions. You must remember that union contracts have been negotiated. Someone else on the other side of the table have signed off on giving the unions the benefits union members receive. Instead of vilifying the unions, why not go after those higher up that negotiated on your behalf.
Unions are not in the business of teaching children, fighting fires, patrolling streets, picking up garbage, etc. Unions are in the business of protecting the rights of its membership and getting the best contract for its members that it can.
What's happening in Wisconsin is not about union memberships not sharing in the burden of a bad economy. The Wisconsin governor has said it is not about the unions making concessions, it's about dismantling the unions and stripping them of their ability to work for their membership.

no it's about stripping unions of their ability to influence elections and disrupt state governments

MrQ wrote:

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no it's about stripping unions of their ability to influence elections and disrupt state governments

To unions have any less a right to influence America than corporate America? Does corporate America count more than the middle class?

There are some unions that receive ridiculously high pensions after retiring after 20 years of service. Yes, unions should be willing to make sacrifices in that sort of situation. However, outlawing unions altogether is totally wrong.

I admit when palin was running around with mcain I didn't think much of her

however after all the rivers of guck the libboons have vomited up about her, I find myself growing fonder of her in spite of myself

I have little doubt goblama will be remembered as one of the most destructive presidents in history - hence even sarah palin could defeat him

if by odd chance she becomes the candidate (after what I've seen of this madhouse reign of the left I wouldn't doubt anything is possible) then I will vote for her despite any misgivings

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>To unions have any less a right to influence America than corporate America? Does corporate America count more than the middle class?
There are some unions that receive ridiculously high pensions after retiring after 20 years of service. Yes, unions should be willing to make sacrifices in that sort of situation. However, outlawing unions altogether is totally wrong.

well if the unions do than the corporations have the same right

the corporations have no right to disrupt state governments either

should they convince legislators to desert their elected posts and go into hiding, then no one should buy their products and put them out of business

"outlawing" is a bit of a stretch - I favor boycotting any company that uses union labor, where possible

MrQ wrote:

I admit when palin was running around with mcain I didn't think much of her
however after all the rivers of guck the libboons have vomited up about her, I find myself growing fonder of her in spite of myself
I have little doubt goblama will be remembered as one of the most destructive presidents in history - hence even sarah palin could defeat him
if by odd chance she becomes the candidate (after what I've seen of this madhouse reign of the left I wouldn't doubt anything is possible) then I will vote for her despite any misgivings

What exactly has Obama destroyed? Not the economy, Dubya did that. It was tanking long before Obama took office. Obama also did not start the war in Iraq. Even without additional spending programs approved by Obama, the deficit was projected to skyrocket. Had his predecessor been more responsible, we might never have seen Obama elected in the first place.

MrQ wrote:

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well if the unions do than the corporations have the same right
the corporations have no right to disrupt state governments either
should they convince legislators to desert their elected posts and go into hiding, then no one should buy their products and put them out of business
"outlawing" is a bit of a stretch - I favor boycotting any company that uses union labor, where possible

As far as schools go, there is a push for charter schools or a school voucher system. Let's see how the teachers union compete with them.

MrQ wrote:

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well if the unions do than the corporations have the same right
the corporations have no right to disrupt state governments either
should they convince legislators to desert their elected posts and go into hiding, then no one should buy their products and put them out of business
"outlawing" is a bit of a stretch - I favor boycotting any company that uses union labor, where possible

We do have some common ground here. What applies to the goose ought to apply to the gander. Corporate America will continue to try to buy elections with its deep pockets to the detriment of the middle class and the country as a whole. Palin is in the pocket of corporate America. That ditsy dame couldn't even finish her term in Alaska, a sparsely populated state. How is she going to cope with a nation of 300 million plus people?

Teaman wrote:

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As far as schools go, there is a push for charter schools or a school voucher system. Let's see how the teachers union compete with them.

another thing the unions interfered with

they also interfere with home schooling
people should be allowed to home school their children if they are able and willing - without political interference or stigma

I know for a fact that I could homeschool my kids and they would be superior to any public school student

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>What exactly has Obama destroyed? Not the economy, Dubya did that. It was tanking long before Obama took office. Obama also did not start the war in Iraq. Even without additional spending programs approved by Obama, the deficit was projected to skyrocket. Had his predecessor been more responsible, we might never have seen Obama elected in the first place.

george bush is out of office
obama should join him

neither should have been elected
gore should not have been elected
kerry should not have been elected
clinton should not have been elected
gwhbush should not have been elected
carter should not have been elected
ford never was elected
nixon should not have been elected
humphreys should not have been elected
johnson should not have been elected

if you want to play blame games go back to the start

"if they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun"

all I need to say about the kenyan pretender