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Court should reverse freeze on land sales - Editorials

The U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to review a state ruling on the use of ceded land.

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Get Rid of OHA

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Transfer the land. No transfer the land. Sell the land. No sell the land. Who cares?

As long as OHA is wasting the money on themselves and has-been former US Senators like Ben Campbell, and not helping out the REAL Hawaiians that need the help to build homes on the Hawaiian Homestead (which is what the OHA money from the 5f trust lands is supposed to be used for), really doesn't matter what the Supreme Court does.

We need a constitutional convention and to get rid of OHA.

30 years of dysfunction is enough.
oha for Hawaiians

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Oct 6, 2008
 
oha is helping build homes on the homesteads. It is helping Hawaiians in other ways as well. If you think Congress' decision to only help 50%ers means all others are not "real", then you need to examine your own beliefs and see how Hawaiian they are, because blood quantum is not a Hawaiian value.
Need for clarity

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The Admission Act did not require that one fifth of ceded land revenue be dedicated to improving conditions for Hawaiians.

The Act just said that could be among five purposes.

The Legislature later created the one fifth formula, but never clarified whether it was one fifth of the gross or net proceeds. This still needs to be clarified.

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Kudos to Chief Justice Ronald Moon for respecting property rights as title is being held in trust for Hawaiians as described in Article XIIthe Hawai'i "State" Constitution:

OFFICE OF HAWAIIAN AFFAIRS; ESTABLISHMENT OF BOARD OF TRUSTEES
Section 5.

There is hereby established an Office of Hawaiian Affairs. The Office of Hawaiian Affairs shall hold title to all the real and personal property now or hereafter set aside or conveyed to it which shall be held in trust for native Hawaiians and Hawaiians. There shall be a board of trustees for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs elected by qualified voters who are Hawaiians, as provided by law. The board members shall be Hawaiians. There shall be not less than nine members of the board of trustees; provided that each of the following Islands have one representative: Oahu, Kauai, Maui, Molokai and Hawaii. The board shall select a chairperson from its members.[Add Const Con 1978 and election Nov 7,
1978]

Seen here: http://hawaii.gov/lrb/con/conart12.html

As others who deal with land and title already know... this is treading on very dangerous territory which affects not only Hawaiians but everyone who has property and holds title to some land.

Kudos to Chief Justice Moon for being an epitome of the U.S. Constitution and preserving and protecting property rights.

Thumbs down to the thieves who want to transfer title without the consent of the property owners who hold title to the land.

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Kaimuki, Hilo, Ka'u, and Kaupo

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That is... thumbs DOWN to the editor(s) who wrote this piece which advocates stealing title without the consent of the property owner(s) who are Hawaiian or non-Hawaiian. UNCOOL!
Need for clarity

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Uh, Lana, the key phrase in the passage you cited is "now or hereafter set aside or conveyed to it."

That does not even imply ALL ceded land.

It means exactly what it says, all land set aside for OHA or conveyed to it. The state Supreme Court ruling had nothing to do with land set aside or conveyed to OHA, and it would be absurd to assume OHA has any right to all ceded land.

In fact, it is very questionable whether OHA has any inherent right to ANY revenue from ceded land, should the Legislature abolish the one fifth formula. Please don't over simplify important and complex issues with emotion and rhetoric.
gunpoint

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Oct 6, 2008
 
All ceded land was stolen by gunpoint. See:http://www.amazon.com/Over throw-Americas-Century-Regime- Change/dp/0805082409
Sad Starbulletin Reader

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Oct 6, 2008
 
Who at the Star-Bulletin wrote this?

If you going to promote unethical activity and disguise it as a news worthy editorial - put your name on it.

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This editorial containsh falsehoods and distortions which the Star-Bulletin has also printed on previous occasions. Whoever wrote it is either ignorant of the facts or is knowingly telling lies in order to propagandize for the Akaka bill.

Editorial says "... the Admission Act's provision that one-fifth of the benefits from ceded land be dedicating to improving conditions for Hawaiians." FALSE. The Admission Act says ceded land revenues can be used for ANY ONE OR MORE of five purposes. None of the money is required to be used for any particular purpose. When OHA was created in 1978, the Legislature passed a law to give OHA 20% of ceded land revenue. That law can be repealed anytime the Legislature chooses to do so. Anytime at all. How about doing it January 2009?

Editorial says "Reconciliation will not be achieved until Congress approves Sen. Daniel Akaka's Hawaiian sovereignty bill and it is signed into law by the next president." FALSE. Reconciliation can be achieved when the Legislature repeals the law to give OHA 20% of revenues, and when the upcoming Constitutional Convention abolished OHA, and when the university and the newspapers stop cheering for racial separatism and ethnic nationalism.
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Conklin is one of the few men who are constantly honest, manly and right. OHA is flat out illegal And McPain, who may well win, will veto any further race-based handouts. Truth is, and you can talk to the OHA or race entitlement folks, they are preparing for the worst and know there existence is tenuous. Hawaiians have one last hope: American liberal democracy and the free market economy where all are treated equally. Bizarrely, Hawaiians have never had it so good.
Justice

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This why Hawaii and it mix of ethnic group constantly oppose Republublicans. They consistantly oppose anything that is not "white".
Justice

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VOTE AGAINST CON-CON. We have done it before we will again. PEOPLE OF HAWAII, PEOPLE OF COLOR, PEOPLE WHO HAVE SETTLED FROM ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD, don't be fooled by these "grass roots" people. They only grown in fields of bigotry. You know who they are. Same ones who stole, enslaved blacks, stole from indians, forced mexicans out, forced labored chinese, interned japanese, denied filipinos war rights! Oh who could they be??? The same ones who killed each other in the Civil War on terrorist of the South. Bigotry never dies, they just get born again by these people.
Kawehi Kanui Waimanalo

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The recent 700 Billion dollar sell-out rip off exposes what the US government and their buddies are doing to the American people...is a spiritual issue that has dragged Americans into doing the same thing...spending money they don't have and continue to lie, steal and murder people for their profits. The US government and her people need to free Hawai'i from being hostages used and abused by the State of Hawai'i for their own need for greed. That is a fact.
Kawehi Kanui Waimanalo

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As for the Supreme Ct. and "ceded lands" cannot be leased, sold or bought by third party entities and that is the law. It's amazing how non-Hawaiians always want what is not theirs to have. The Akaka Bill is being used as the States' leverage to get from us what is not theirs. Hands off! State and foreigners in Hawai'i...those lands are not for you to develop or have...it is for our children and grand children's future to use...by right.
Kawehi Kanui Waimanalo

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Unless Conklin can prove that he even had an ancestor living in the Hawaiian Kingdom before 1893, he is not a kanaka maoli...therefore not of the same blood to claim rights on or in the lands. He wishes like many Americans who are jealous of what we have and wish they had it, will have to kill us for it.

The Akaka Bill is not supported by us, the blood people of this aina and that we don't support Conklin's position on the bill that it is racial is not true at all. It's about nationality, law and the real people of these lands...not America, not the American constitution and not by Americans who are greedy developers and corporations who have a bottom less pit for other people's money, lands and material benefits. Thus the 700 billion dollar sell-out. Live within your means Americans.
Kau Inoa

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alice wrote:
Conklin is one of the few men who are constantly honest, manly and right. OHA is flat out illegal And McPain, who may well win, will veto any further race-based handouts. Truth is, and you can talk to the OHA or race entitlement folks, they are preparing for the worst and know there existence is tenuous. Hawaiians have one last hope: American liberal democracy and the free market economy where all are treated equally. Bizarrely, Hawaiians have never had it so good.
Alice, I am APPALLED! at your deceitful and willful acts in just manipulating the issues. Now your a McCain/Palin supporter in regards to your dislike of the "Akaka Bill? Review the above again, it's self-explanantory and textbook "TO THE POINT." The Akaka Bill already passed the House and pending before the Senate. Democrats control the floor of the Senate. Previous articles affirmed, McCain/Palin does not support the Akaka Bill. This article reveals, Obama/Biden supports the Akaka Bill. Senator Inouye and Akaka vow before they leave their long-term office, they would give back something to the Hawaiian people and that would be the Akaka Bill. Kau Inoa under the flagship of OHA, presently has over 120,000 registered voter/membership Hawaiians voting for Obama/Biden. Hawaii has over 465,000 registered voter's, the most ever registered in history. It doesn't matter what you say in this matter, but what impact you make on November 4, 2008. Million's of dollars have been poured-in by the Bishop Estate(Kamehameha Schools), OHA, and various organizations to inscribe black and white into the United States Statutes in recognition of the Hawaiian People. If Obama prevail's the Akaka Bill will be implemented before next year June's Supreme Court hearing and it will become moot. If McCain prevails, the Akaka Bill will be abolished with other entities and Kamehameha Schools will open it's doors to all non-Hawaiian ethnicity. Alice, as you have consistently tormented the McCain/Palin campaign, you need to rethink your strategy to promote who you really believe in or what political positions you stand for.

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Need for clarity wrote:
Uh, Lana, the key phrase in the passage you cited is "now or hereafter set aside or conveyed to it."
That does not even imply ALL ceded land.
It means exactly what it says, all land set aside for OHA or conveyed to it.

The state Supreme Court ruling had nothing to do with land set aside or conveyed to OHA, and it would be absurd to assume OHA has any right to all ceded land.
In fact, it is very questionable whether OHA has any inherent right to ANY revenue from ceded land, should the Legislature abolish the one fifth formula. Please don't over simplify important and complex issues with emotion and rhetoric.
It's very obvious that you know very little about title. Please leave it to those of us who do to discuss title instead of resorting to posting a diatribe about what you mistakenly think about "ceded" land while using emotion and rhetoric partly based on your racism that singles out and targets Hawaiians based on their national origin. Mahalo.
McCain Financial Crisis

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http://www.keatingeconomics.com/
JOHN MCCAIN AND THE MAKING OF A FINANCIAL CRISIS!
Please view this Devastating Powerful Documnetary Video of John McCain's ventures into the scandalous "KEATING 5" greatest Savings And Loan downfall in U. S. history.

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Kawehi Kanui Waimanalo wrote:
As for the Supreme Ct. and "ceded lands" cannot be leased, sold or bought by third party entities and that is the law. It's amazing how non-Hawaiians always want what is not theirs to have. The Akaka Bill is being used as the States' leverage to get from us what is not theirs. Hands off! State and foreigners in Hawai'i...those lands are not for you to develop or have...it is for our children and grand children's future to use...by right.
Well stated... and it's refreshing to read a response from someone else who knows about title and the bundle of rights that come with land ownership. Title cannot be transferred without the consent of those on the title. The Akaka Bill is being used as a tool to try to do so en masse without the consent of Hawaiians who hold title to some land in Hawai'i. This is diametrically opposed to due process.

This is all about property rights. This time of Hawaiians. When transferring title there must be 1) Acceptance and 2) Delivery. Hawaiians do not accept transferring their title yet the "state" tries to deliver it... to themselves. That is why Chief Justice Moon erred on the side of protecting and defending the rights of Hawaiians. Kudos to him and to all of the judges and attorneys who keep their vow to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution INCLUDING for Hawaiians.

Thumbs down to all of you racists out there who advocate that the title of Hawaiians be taken without their consent.
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Please view this Devastating Powerful Documentary Video tying John McCain to the Big Corporate Oil Lobbyist that has willfully drive-up the gas prices.
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