IRS wary as some pastors plan to talk politics

Tax the god hustling fraudsters into oblivion!

It's about time that the supreme court addressed this. The only reason the IRS hasn't pursued it already is that first ammendment privledges obviously superceed the tax laws.

I believe the time will come when churches lose their exempt status, but it will only come as a result of supreme court justices rewriting/reinventing the constitution.

The Black Regiments (ministers) led in motivating these people to stand for independence from England. The led in the ablolution moviment, the child labor laws and in voting rights. Why must we muzzle them? Why so angry against those who help nurture this people in their knowledge of God and his ways?

I say repeal the gag orders of 1953. We were a good and prospering people before it was inacted and have seen a dramatic increase in immorality since its enactment.

Pat wrote:

Tax the god hustling fraudsters into oblivion!

Pat my dear sister, many are abusers of the system and those that are committing fraud, but they're going to pay and it won't be just taxes. You see everyone will have to give an account for the things they've done in this life, and that includes you and me. One day the church will be paying taxes on their money which is OK, but there will truly be those that will be hurt by it and it probably won't be you. You see when a person stands on the pulpit and declares what he believes there is a higher responsibility to that person and they will answer, so taxes are not what so important but what happens after one dies! The other you might need to note that when it comes to income tax it is illegal, that's right the government is doing things that are illegal. Oh and by the way way they are not hustling God no one can do that, they are hustling His children and will answer dearly for it.

Edwin wrote:

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Pat my dear sister, many are abusers of the system and those that are committing fraud, but they're going to pay and it won't be just taxes. You see everyone will have to give an account for the things they've done in this life, and that includes you and me. One day the church will be paying taxes on their money which is OK, but there will truly be those that will be hurt by it and it probably won't be you. You see when a person stands on the pulpit and declares what he believes there is a higher responsibility to that person and they will answer, so taxes are not what so important but what happens after one dies! The other you might need to note that when it comes to income tax it is illegal, that's right the government is doing things that are illegal. Oh and by the way way they are not hustling God no one can do that, they are hustling His children and will answer dearly for it.

Nothiing happens after one dies. What part of a corpse can't you figure out? Memory and awareness are brain functions, not magical powers that can survive outside of your brain. Magic is not real.

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Nothiing happens after one dies. What part of a corpse can't you figure out? Memory and awareness are brain functions, not magical powers that can survive outside of your brain. Magic is not real.

Really and you my dear sister know for sure that your life will end when the body dies? What about your soul and your spirit? If you really know for sure that nothing happens after you die then why are you here and why do you do the things you do? If you live to 80 and you die and that's it then we have lived a very sad existence and our life is not worth the living. I think the fact of the matter is my dear sister is that you don't know what happens after you die, scientists don't know and many others don't know. For that I'm truly sorry as your existence is more than this life on Earth and the real God who created all things wants you to know that He is alive and you will meet Him when you die. I'm sorry if people have hurt you in the past and I pray that you will be restored what has been taken from you, that you may know the living God really exists and cares for you if you go to Him and just ask sincerely. Jesus Christ will change your life.

Edwin wrote:

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Really and you my dear sister know for sure that your life will end when the body dies? What about your soul and your spirit? If you really know for sure that nothing happens after you die then why are you here and why do you do the things you do? If you live to 80 and you die and that's it then we have lived a very sad existence and our life is not worth the living. I think the fact of the matter is my dear sister is that you don't know what happens after you die, scientists don't know and many others don't know. For that I'm truly sorry as your existence is more than this life on Earth and the real God who created all things wants you to know that He is alive and you will meet Him when you die. I'm sorry if people have hurt you in the past and I pray that you will be restored what has been taken from you, that you may know the living God really exists and cares for you if you go to Him and just ask sincerely. Jesus Christ will change your life.

"Really and you my dear sister know for sure that your life will end when the body dies?"

Yes, if a corpse doesn't prove the end of life then what would be enough proof for you? Hmmm?

"What about your soul and your spirit?"

They don't exist, they are myths. Describe thenqualities of your soul then. What exactly is it? An invisible you? Awareness and memory are brain functions. You no more live after death then you did before birth. Grow up.

"If you really know for sure that nothing happens after you die then why are you here and why do you do the things you do?"

I'm here because my parents decided to have children. Why does a jellyfish do what it does? Why does a dog do what it does? The meaning of life is life itself.

"If you live to 80 and you die and that's it then we have lived a very sad existence and our life is not worth the living."

That's your utterly negative opinion not mine. I feel sorry for you then if all you live for is your imaginary after life.

"I'm sorry if people have hurt you in the past and I pray that you will be restored what has been taken from you, that you may know the living God really exists and cares for you if you go to Him and just ask sincerely. Jesus Christ will change your life."

Stop flattering yourself. You have nobody to send your silent wishes to nor do you have the ability of telepathy. Magic is not real. Get an education!
What a waste of a life you live, living in fear and denial believing in fairytales. To deny reality is to deny life itslef. I hope some day you can find the courage to be honest with yourself.

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Yes, if a corpally and you my dear sister know for sure that your life will end when the body dies?"se doesn't prove the end of life then what would be enough proof for you? Hmmm?
They don't exist, they are myths. Describe thenqualities of your soul then. What exactly is it? An invisible you? Awareness and memory are brain functions. You no more live after death then you did before birth. Grow up.
I'm here because my parents decided to have children. Why does a jellyfish do what it does? Why does a dog do what it does? The meaning of life is life itself.
That's your utterly negative opinion not mine. I feel sorry for you then if all you live for is your imaginary after life.
Stop flattering yourself. You have nobody to send your silent wishes to nor do you have the ability of telepathy. Magic is not real. Get an education!
What a waste of a life you live, living in fear and denial believing in fairytales. To deny reality is to deny life itslef. I hope some day you can find the courage to be honest with yourself.

Why are you so angry?

It sounds like you are full of fear, doubt, anger and hatred.

I would like to know one thing my dear sister and that is how is it that you know for sure that when you die your existance ceases?

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Why are you so angry?
It sounds like you are full of fear, doubt, anger and hatred.
I would like to know one thing my dear sister and that is how is it that you know for sure that when you die your existance ceases?

Your mindreading abilities are not working properly. I am not angry and the fear is all yours for that is why you let your emotions (fear) override your intellect in order to believe in foolish ideas that you are somehow a supernatural being who lives for eternity.

"I would like to know one thing my dear sister and that is how is it that you know for sure that when you die your existance ceases?"

Have you ever met a person who has had a stroke? Just by having the blood to their brain interrupted for a short time can destroy large blocks of memory. A person may not recognize a spouse of 50 years or lose the ability to speak. The essence of you, the individual, is your unique life experience contained in your brain's memory. When you die your brain dies and all that makes you, you, is lost forever. Your memory is gone which means the essence of you the individual is gone. That takes care of memory. Next is awareness. Your awareness requires sensory organs (eyes, ears, smell) and a computer (your brain) to process the information. When you die you no longer have the ability to sense anything at all thus awareness is lost. If a corpse doesn't prove the end to personal memory and awareness then NOTHING AT ALL could ever be considered proven for there is nothing that could ever be considered more proven. What you believe in you believe out of denial and fear. You are either unwilling or unable to look at this subject honestly. There is not one shred of evidence to support your supernatural beliefs. All you have is personal desire. One shouldn't let personal desires determine what is true or false. That's a fools game of self deception.

You didn't live before birth and you won't live after death. Magic is not real.

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When you die your brain dies and all that makes you, you, is lost forever. Your memory is gone which means the essence of you the individual is gone. That takes care of memory. Next is awareness. Your awareness requires sensory organs (eyes, ears, smell) and a computer (your brain) to process the information. When you die you no longer have the ability to sense anything at all thus awareness is lost. If a corpse doesn't prove the end to personal memory and awareness then NOTHING AT ALL could ever be considered proven for there is nothing that could ever be considered more proven. What you believe in you believe out of denial and fear. You are either unwilling or unable to look at this subject honestly. There is not one shred of evidence to support your supernatural beliefs. All you have is personal desire. One shouldn't let personal desires determine what is true or false. That's a fools game of self deception.
You didn't live before birth and you won't live after death. Magic is not real.

After saying all that you are just going on what your cognitive analysis is telling you and in the end of all of what you said you still didn't answer the question. The fact is that you don't know. You describe the physical body and what happens to that when a person dies.
You talk about my desires, but what you failed to realize that what I believe is based upon experience and that experience is real. I am not denying anything and the fear that you say that I have is something out of your imagination and one day I hope that you know the truth before it's too late. It is very sad that you compare your existence with a dog and a jelly fish.
You keep talking about magic, saying that it is not real and your right but there are many things science cannot explain and they are very real, just because it cannot be seen under a microscope doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. You sound very confident that you are sure but I wonder if you can answer the question, How do you know that your existence ends when you die? The fact is my dear that you do not know. One day you will find out.

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After saying all that you are just going on what your cognitive analysis is telling you and in the end of all of what you said you still didn't answer the question. The fact is that you don't know. You describe the physical body and what happens to that when a person dies.
You talk about my desires, but what you failed to realize that what I believe is based upon experience and that experience is real. I am not denying anything and the fear that you say that I have is something out of your imagination and one day I hope that you know the truth before it's too late. It is very sad that you compare your existence with a dog and a jelly fish.
You keep talking about magic, saying that it is not real and your right but there are many things science cannot explain and they are very real, just because it cannot be seen under a microscope doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. You sound very confident that you are sure but I wonder if you can answer the question, How do you know that your existence ends when you die? The fact is my dear that you do not know. One day you will find out.

"The fact is that you don't know."

Now you are just being stubborn because you are too emotionally invested in your little fantasy. Like I said, if a corpse doesn't prove beyond all doubt death of the individual then what would be enough proof for you? We know from stroke victims that memory is lost when the brain is damaged or destroyed. No memory and no awareness then there is no you! You believe in magic if you think there is an invisible you inside your body waiting to escape. That is utter insanity and deep down you know it. You are a mammal and your physical body is all that you have. You are not immortal but you obviously have a very big ego to believe you are!

"I hope that you know the truth before it's too late."

Too late for what? Mr Invisible Bashful full of love going to spank me for eternity for using the brain he gave me? This is just your fear talking here. Maybe faith is a test from god. A test to see if you have the courage to walk through life without the crutch of comfortable myths using the brain god gave you. Maybe it is you who has failed the test.

"How do you know that your existence ends when you die? "

Because I am a mammal and I didn't live before I was conceived and will not live after death. What would ever allow you to think all mammals live for eternity? Don't you see how utterly absurd that is? I'm sorry to break it to you but us humans are not the center of importance in the universe. Dinosaurs ruled the earth for 200 MILLION years, humans for a mere 100,000. Are you sure your god isn't a dinosaur? Religion is just man's worship of himself, nothing more.

"Because I am a mammal and I didn't live before I was conceived and will not live after death."

This Godless nation is and will be reaping what it has sown and you along with the dogs and jelly fish will end your existence on this earth. No need to reason why as dogs and jelly fish cannot. You can drink your martini and live your life, and when you die then you'll know.......

let em speak, we should have the deficit paid off in no time with the tax revenue!

Edwin wrote:

"Because I am a mammal and I didn't live before I was conceived and will not live after death."
This Godless nation is and will be reaping what it has sown and you along with the dogs and jelly fish will end your existence on this earth. No need to reason why as dogs and jelly fish cannot. You can drink your martini and live your life, and when you die then you'll know.......

I won't know anything after I die and neither will you. You just proved the root of your faith isn't reason, it's fear.