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The Humane Society of the US is a terrible organization. They are NOT connected in any way to the county humane societies, who are the real heroes in the fight against animal cruelty. In fact, HSUS has never rescued a single animal! They are simply a lobbying apparatus for vegetarian/vegan interests.

Big Bob wrote:

The Humane Society of the US is a terrible organization. They are NOT connected in any way to the county humane societies, who are the real heroes in the fight against animal cruelty. In fact, HSUS has never rescued a single animal! They are simply a lobbying apparatus for vegetarian/vegan interests.

When you can't make an intelligent argument, attack the source, huh?

Bob Evans saying: "the sale of eggs is not significantly related to the company's business,": is like Bob Evans saying they are not in the breakfast business.

Besides, everyone knows free range eggs taste better. It's a win win for everyone.

Big Bob wrote:

The Humane Society of the US is a terrible organization. They are NOT connected in any way to the county humane societies, who are the real heroes in the fight against animal cruelty. In fact, HSUS has never rescued a single animal! They are simply a lobbying apparatus for vegetarian/vegan interests.

Bob, you make a great point in that the HSUS is NOT affiliated with the local county/city humane societies. I donate to my county group. However, while I don't agree with all of the HSUS agenda, I wouldn't label them a "terrible" group. They are what they are: a lobbying group that works to change policies and laws to satisfy their agenda. This is no different than what the coal industry, oil industry, banking industry, environmental groups, education groups, etc. do. They work the halls of our government and corporate offices to push their points of view. Does the HSUS push vegetarianism/veganism? Maybe, I don't know and don't care because I'm a happy omnivore.

I will say this. I've been to a egg farm and the confined conditions these hens live in are horrid. I can't saw all the meat and eggs I consume are humanely raised, but I make an effort to buy humane products when I can. I get my beef from a local farmer who lets the steers graze in a field, and I buy cage-free eggs from one or two local small farmers. Not everyone has the chance to do this or afford it. But I happily pay 20 cents per egg rather than 10 cents because I can and it's the right thing to do. Bob Evans may or may not be able to make the increased cost work in it's bottom line, but maybe thay can look into it and see if they can make it work, whether stock holders vote on it or not.... Just my opinion, not trying to force it on anyone.

C'mon Bob Evans---do the right thing !! You are a billion dollar company. Give a bit of that money back so when I eat your eggs I feel good.

maddog wrote:

Bob Evans saying: "the sale of eggs is not significantly related to the company's business,": is like Bob Evans saying they are not in the breakfast business.
Besides, everyone knows free range eggs taste better. It's a win win for everyone.

Who doesn't want an omelet w/free range eggs from humanely treated chickens? Bob Evans is to eggs, as Roto Rooter is to poo.

Once again we see how meat-eaters treat thier food. This is why I am Vegan and proud.

I hope the Humane Society gets eggs banned by the shareholders.

harvey wrote:

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When you can't make an intelligent argument, attack the source, huh?

Well, gosh Harvey, ya stumped me. I suppose I could explain that I disagree with the interpretation of SEC Rule 14a-8 which requires corporations to submit proposals regarding social issues such as animal welfare to their shareholders via proxy vote. Rather, I believe, only issues of economic significance to the corporation are appropriate. While the current trend seems to permit such proposals, reasonable minds could disagree.

What do you think Harvey? Agree or disagree?

Good. Sleazy __s. Why not use cage free eggs?

Free-Range chickens eat loads of animal scat..including their own...
Caged birds actually eat healthy, dirtfree food...

Big Bob wrote:

The Humane Society of the US is a terrible organization. They are NOT connected in any way to the county humane societies, who are the real heroes in the fight against animal cruelty. In fact, HSUS has never rescued a single animal! They are simply a lobbying apparatus for vegetarian/vegan interests.

HSUS doesnt claim to be a county society. It has one of the largest memberships and budgets of any nonprofit advocacy group in the country, and it has had great sucesss and support in stopping what were clearly abusive and cruel practices in today's industrial livestock nightmare.

So blow it out your ass.

And Bob Evans, wake the hell up and buy cage free eggs.

I am boycotting all Bob Evans products and restaurants since they took the government welfare handout when relocating from Columbus to New Albany.

Go to mom and pop restaurants for breakfast presently..

It will lose.

Big Bob wrote:

The Humane Society of the US is a terrible organization. They are NOT connected in any way to the county humane societies, who are the real heroes in the fight against animal cruelty. In fact, HSUS has never rescued a single animal! They are simply a lobbying apparatus for vegetarian/vegan interests.

HSUS does rescue animals. Remember Hurricane Katrina? Or the dogfighting situation in Jefferson County, Ohio last August? Just last week the HSUS rescued 700 cats from a hoarding situation in Florida.

let the chickens vote.

Higher population density usually requires more antibiotics in feed and for sporadic infectious outbreaks which leads to more drug resistance and so on. A huge number of people die from sepsis and other infections, some years the toll is higher than cancer mortality. Infection rates and our ability to treat them are trending toward an environment and situation similar to the 1800s. We have issues even larger than profits or local animal rights arguments with regard to how we live and eat.

Nice to know the human society of america can force a company to do something even though the share holders didn't bring it up.

Big Bob wrote:

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Well, gosh Harvey, ya stumped me. I suppose I could explain that I disagree with the interpretation of SEC Rule 14a-8 which requires corporations to submit proposals regarding social issues such as animal welfare to their shareholders via proxy vote. Rather, I believe, only issues of economic significance to the corporation are appropriate. While the current trend seems to permit such proposals, reasonable minds could disagree.
What do you think Harvey? Agree or disagree?

I'm not Harvey, but can I put in my 2 cents worth? At first, I agreed that only issues of economic significance should be put before shareholders. But then as I thought about it, I thought, if I own a company (as a shareholder), do I care about the morals of that company? Many people will say no, I only what money and I don't care how they get it. This issue may be about Bob Evans and humane eggs, but how far should this attitude go? I mean, if I have a product and the Taliban wants to buy it, should my company sell to them (assuming it's legal), just so I can make money, or does it matter that the Taliban mistreats women, kills innocent people and supports terrorism against America?

Yes, it's an extreme analogy, but the question you pose, indirectly, is does morality have any place in business, or is it just about making money? I suppose this is something each person has to answer for themselves. If a company has moral/social activities and policies that I disagree with, then I might be able to dump their stock. This is less of an option for those of us in mutual funds who have no direct control over which companies our money is invested in. Thanks for raising the issue the way you did. I admit it's not something I've given much thought to, but should.

I only WANT money and I don't care how they get it.

Sorry about the typo.

Really Now wrote:

I am boycotting all Bob Evans products and restaurants since they took the government welfare handout when relocating from Columbus to New Albany.
Go to mom and pop restaurants for breakfast presently..

Like the SEC I am going to force a vote on it before you can do that...