After health ruling, will US be ready for the law?

JohnInLa wrote:

<quoted text>Attention moron cow patty!!! Brilliant? It took a USSC ruling to tell the lord marshal b. h. obama it was a TAX. That's after the lord marshal swore up and down in many interviews it was not a TAX.
Your poll is a bounce off the ruling's face value. Once the word TAX sinks in, the American people will view it all through their wallets along with the rest of the pathetic economy and vote accordingly. Now run along peewee and GFY.

The Court held that the AIA (Anti Injunction Act) does not bar the challenge to the individual mandate because the mandate is not a “tax” within the meaning of the AIA. But if the individual mandate is only constitutional as an exercise of Congress’s taxing power, then how can that be?

The short answer is that – at least after today’s opinion – courts apply a different test to determine whether a law constitutes a tax for constitutional purposes (i.e., the taxing power) than they do to determine whether the same law constitutes a tax for statutory jurisdiction purposes (i.e., the AIA). The constitutional test looks not to the label on the law, but instead to the way that the law functions. The test under the AIA, however, looks to whether Congress intended for the law to function as a tax.

No, it's not a tax, only Fox says the Court ruled the Mandate a Tax, but we know Fox is immune to the truth.

Fox News and the entire Republican delegation in Congress are claiming this is a tax and are making fools of their supporters who are also insisting the Mandate is a Tax, How is it the Republicans Members of Congress who help created the Anti Injunction Act do not know the Law? You have been played like a Fool suggesting the mandate is a Tax.

If it were a Tax the Anti Injunction Act would have prevented the Court from even hearing the Suit Oral Arguments, no less rendering any decision before the collection of the Tax.

"Taxpayers are reminded that the President’s healthcare law is one of the largest tax increases in American history.

Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses.

Arranged by their respective effective dates, below is the total list of all $500 billion-plus in tax hikes (over the next ten years) in Obamacare, where to find them in the bill, and how much your taxes are scheduled to go up as of today.

http://www.atr.org/tax-hikes-obamacare-scotus...

http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoo...

Secretly taped Obama campaign call affirms money anxiety...

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REPORT: White House salaries grow...

1. Only President with negative net jobs numbers……….
2. Only President to substain unemployment at 14.5%
3. Only President to reach 100 golf outing in three years
4. Obama passed the largest tax increase in history with Obama Care
5. TIRED OF DOING NOTHING BUT CAMPAIGNING……..PRESIDENT TAKES THE WEEK OFF.

George H W Bush read my lips "No New Taxes" big liar.

It does no such thing, the writing of the bill is simple and easy to digest. It's not a tax, and there are no taxes imposed on Families.

There are however,Excises Taxes, which are taxes paid when purchases are made on a specific good, such as whirlpools and spa, and other devices purchased with a physician prescription, which are deductible on income tax filings, cigarettes, and now health care insurance companies have to pay taxes on earnings.

But the biggest Tax issue with the ACA is now employers who provide a health care can get a tax credit for 35% of the cost of providing coverage to their employees.

LLT1 wrote:

"Taxpayers are reminded that the President’s healthcare law is one of the largest tax increases in American history.
Obamacare contains 20 new or higher taxes on American families and small businesses.
Arranged by their respective effective dates, below is the total list of all $500 billion-plus in tax hikes (over the next ten years) in Obamacare, where to find them in the bill, and how much your taxes are scheduled to go up as of today.
http://www.atr.org/tax-hikes-obamacare-scotus...
http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork/view_zoo...

Tony wrote:

George H W Bush read my lips "No New Taxes" big liar.

For once you are correct. And Obama just gave us the biggest tax increase in America's history, expecially to the middleclass he promised not to raise taxes to one dime.

Eric Gustafson wrote:

It does no such thing, the writing of the bill is simple and easy to digest. It's not a tax, and there are no taxes imposed on Families.
There are however,Excises Taxes, which are taxes paid when purchases are made on a specific good, such as whirlpools and spa, and other devices purchased with a physician prescription, which are deductible on income tax filings, cigarettes, and now health care insurance companies have to pay taxes on earnings.
But the biggest Tax issue with the ACA is now employers who provide a health care can get a tax credit for 35% of the cost of providing coverage to their employees.
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If it's not a tax it is unconstitutional. That is what the SCOTUS said.

Eric Gustafson wrote:

It does no such thing, the writing of the bill is simple and easy to digest. It's not a tax, and there are no taxes imposed on Families.
There are however,Excises Taxes, which are taxes paid when purchases are made on a specific good, such as whirlpools and spa, and other devices purchased with a physician prescription, which are deductible on income tax filings, cigarettes, and now health care insurance companies have to pay taxes on earnings.
But the biggest Tax issue with the ACA is now employers who provide a health care can get a tax credit for 35% of the cost of providing coverage to their employees.
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The writing of the bill is simple???- 2800+ pages of simple??? That's nothing but BS.
Spin it all you want - IT IS A TAX - SCOTUS SAID IT WAS A TAX

Pull the sheeple wool off of your eyes.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>If it's not a tax it is unconstitutional. That is what the SCOTUS said.

That's not even close to what the SCOTUS Said, you did not read any of the Opinion, nothing you've stated was close to being part of the Roberts opinion.

Here's the opinion, http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11...

Get familiar with it if you want to discuss it, you are repeating abbreviated version you heard on Fox.

The Mandate is Legal simply because it take on the "Characteristic" of a Tax and, because Congress has Taxing Authority the Mandate is Constitutional, this is what the Supreme Court Said. Under the Commerce Clause, Congress did not have the authority to make citizen participate in market activities. Nor, could congress withdraw existing funding for programs but Congress could withhold additional funding for new programs.

Those were the significant portions of the opinion. Roberts, around the edges pulled in some of the reigns of federal authority using the Commerce Clause.

But the typical republicans could care less as they all hate the Constitution and equally hate the Federal Government since the Civil War, the Same fight is on going and these issues have long ago been settled. The Same States are lining up to refuse to implement the programs in those Southern States, but we've been through this before.

If the States refuse to implement the program, the Federal Government will go into those States and set up those exchanged and implement the program as easy as sending in the Troops to Arkansas to open Public Schools to Minorities, and Alabama to ensure access to Alabama universities for Minorities. It's simple matter that as a nation we have proven to the South.

LLT1 wrote:

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The writing of the bill is simple???- 2800+ pages of simple??? That's nothing but BS.
Spin it all you want - IT IS A TAX - SCOTUS SAID IT WAS A TAX
Pull the sheeple wool off of your eyes.

That's not what the SCOTUS Said, that's not how Robert's described the Mandate. You are mislead, you did not read any of what you believe in his opinion. Who told you what to say and believe?

Ok, I see, you guys met in front of the television to catch up on something that can rally the base for the uncoming election and decided on Obama imposed a big tax on America...... ROFLMAO

The only individuals who could think it's a tax are illiterates, and those incapable of formulating their own opinions. This is another exercise in group thinking.

The Court never stated the Mandate was a Tax, there is no passage in the written opinion stating the Mandate is a Tax, the only place that had determined the Mandate was a Tax is on Fox News..... ROFLMAO

As with the early strategy, Lying, deceit and misrepresenting facts is the strategy of the Right. Same campaign as run in 2008.

The Party leaders are making complete fools out of the Supporters of the Right. If there were any honest intentions any where in the Right, lying would not be a major factor in their campaign strategy.

Stop allowing the Right to make a mockery of you guys.

There will be a lot of whining and hang wringing from conservatives, but they will get in line and do as they're told.

I'll be nice and give them a few moments of sour grapes, but after that, shut up and let the intellectuals run things.

You can run things based on 'feelings' in your own home.

Get used to losing, too, you conservatives. We're tired of letting you make the rules.

OregonSUX wrote:

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Your old guy, Bumbler Bush saddle us with $3 Trillion in wars and $2 Trillion in banking disaster along with the worst recession since the Great Depression.
Your new guy, Bishop Smut Romney wants to saddle us with $5 Trillion in additional deficits.
Republicons have no business handling our money...none. The stock market thinks so as well voting in favor of Democratic Admnistrations 5-to-1 over Republicon ones.

What prevents another GWB from coming along and draining the budget? Can't trust the Gov't, can you.
What's your plan for retirement?

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>For once you are correct. And Obama just gave us the biggest tax increase in America's history, expecially to the middleclass he promised not to raise taxes to one dime.

Don't worry, we'll just tax the rich.

Jeebus wrote:

Massachusetts has the highest insurance premiums in the nation. And the federal government picked up 1/2 the tab for implementing Romneycare. Who will pick up the feds tab for implementing this nationally? China?

Finally, right wingers are realizing that the disgraceful US health care industry is out of control. Of course, Republiscum want this outrageous industry to continue bankrupting us.

At 18% of GDP, it will crush our economy.

Republiscum idea to 'fix' health care in the USA: give health care only to the rich.

Everyone else can die in the streets. Yeah, what a stupid idea but typically Republiscum in its nastiness.

First Obamneycare fix: the 80/20, 85/15 rule forcing health insurance companies to pay out benefits instead of keeping the money for management salaries and yacht parties. This starts next month.

OregonSUX wrote:

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Finally, right wingers are realizing that the disgraceful US health care industry is out of control. Of course, Republiscum want this outrageous industry to continue bankrupting us.
At 18% of GDP, it will crush our economy.
Republiscum idea to 'fix' health care in the USA: give health care only to the rich.
Everyone else can die in the streets. Yeah, what a stupid idea but typically Republiscum in its nastiness.
First Obamneycare fix: the 80/20, 85/15 rule forcing health insurance companies to pay out benefits instead of keeping the money for management salaries and yacht parties. This starts next month.

You illiterate person, the Healthcare situation wasn't good, but now its a Miilion times worse.

OregonSUX wrote:

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Finally, right wingers are realizing that the disgraceful US health care industry is out of control. Of course, Republiscum want this outrageous industry to continue bankrupting us.
At 18% of GDP, it will crush our economy.
Republiscum idea to 'fix' health care in the USA: give health care only to the rich.
Everyone else can die in the streets. Yeah, what a stupid idea but typically Republiscum in its nastiness.
First Obamneycare fix: the 80/20, 85/15 rule forcing health insurance companies to pay out benefits instead of keeping the money for management salaries and yacht parties. This starts next month.

Everybody who works pays for the illegals. Hows insurance gonna change that? Maybe now they will have an ID card, but we are still responsible for them. Your full of it , about only rich getting medical care. This isn't going to work, then we will laugh our a** off.Its worth seeing it fail to shut you idiots up.

Republicans have no plan for health care. The US in ranked #1 in health care costs and 37th in health care quality. Republicans say that is good enough as long as the rich are making money.

see the light wrote:

<quoted text>You illiterate person, the Healthcare situation wasn't good, but now its a Miilion times worse.

well right now you dont have to worry going to hospital and having insurance company tell you that you have a pre existing condition that is not covered which they cant do anymore which I know all about that BS.

see the light wrote:

<quoted text>Everybody who works pays for the illegals. Hows insurance gonna change that? Maybe now they will have an ID card, but we are still responsible for them. Your full of it , about only rich getting medical care. This isn't going to work, then we will laugh our a** off.Its worth seeing it fail to shut you idiots up.

there is definitely going to be major changes and the Private Health Insurance Industry has brought these changes on, and it was not as the planned with their backdoor deals with Congress and they are all going to be eating crow.