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Coburn predicts immigration bill

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U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., predicts the nation is going to see an immigration bill in September.

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msbobbie

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Jul 4, 2006
 
U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., predicts the nation is going to see an immigration bill in September.

“Most of the country wants the border secured and employee accountability,” he said in a conference call with Oklahoma media representatives Thursday about an array of issues.

Coburn said the immigration bill will include a way to secure the borders, provide an employer identification system, and, down the road, include a guest worker program.

It will be a delayed deal for guest workers and people already here, he said. They must be dealt with in a compassionate way, he said.

“I don’t think Congress has the confidence of the American people on immigration,” Coburn said.“We have to win back the American people’s confidence that we’re going to follow the law.

“Nobody knows how many guest workers there are ... it’s hard to come up with a guest worker program if you don’t know how many guest workers there are.”

Guest workers probably will have to go back home and get in lines to come back, he said.

And if a recession comes, guest workers are going to be willing to work for half what an American is willing to work for, Coburn said.

This is not surprising, now that the filing period has ended for primary elections in most states, and some have even had their primaries already, I think.

Voters must pay attention to what their candidates are saying on this issue. Especially the Senate. Oklahoma will not be electing (or re electing) a Senator in November.

I believe immigration more than anything else will shape the future of this country.

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msbobbie

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Jul 4, 2006
 
These are my comments. Above it was from the Senator's remarks.

This is not surprising, now that the filing period has ended for primary elections in most states, and some have even had their primaries already, I think.

Voters must pay attention to what their candidates are saying on this issue. Especially the Senate. Oklahoma will not be electing (or re electing) a Senator in November.

I believe immigration more than anything else will shape the future of this country.
The Old Switcheroo

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Jul 5, 2006
 
At the current rate of immigration, both legal and otherwise, Americans born as American will become a minority in this country during the year 2052. Now, there's a comforting thought.
Yes, pay close attention to the rhetoric the politicfos are spewing...they will make every valiant effort to say what you want to hear as we draw closer to election time. Of course, you must also bear in mind that if a politicians mouth is moving, he (OR she) is either eating or lying.
Harrison Thomas LaTour

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Jul 7, 2006
 
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The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the 1949 convictions of top communist leaders prosecuted under the SMITH ACT. Four (4) of the (11) eleven convicts jumped bail and hid in the communist underground for several years.
twinkie

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Jul 7, 2006
 
We certainly would not want to sound like selfish Americans. After all the illegal aliens have shared so much with us. They have educated us in how to close down a hospital, 60 in California alone. They have taught us how to use stolen identities to ruin the credit rating of millions of Americans. They have shared disease, tuberculosis, chagas, leprosy, polio, dengue, plague, and malaria. They have shared their knowledge of how to utilize our social systems that were set up for and paid for by Americans, welfare, EBT, WIC, Section 8, etc. They have shared the new schools and prisons we have built, giving us the opportunity to utilize our property taxes to build more. They have taught us how to drive with no licence, no insurance, and if we cause an accident killing or injuring someone, how to get a new ID to avoid prosecution. They have taught us to be thrifty by living 25 people to a single family dwelling. They have shared with us the knowledge of how to avoid paying taxes, Cash payment, 1099, 14 bogus dependants, except sales tax, they haven’t figured that one out yet unless you count shoplifting. They have shared their highly artistic Graffiti, junk cars in front yards, trash in front yards, loud music all night, drunken parties, a lesson in how to quickly drive down property values. They have shared with us their knowledge of how an anchor baby can give a firm foothold in the USA. They have shared with us the way to get sympathy,“I’m just a poor person who crossed the burning desert to work and give my family a better life". They have shown us the error of our way in not learning to speak a foreign language to get a job in America. They have shared with us the proper way to fly our flag and sing our National Anthem. At the risk of sounding “whinny” I have had just about all the unselfish sharing I can stand.
twinkie

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Jul 7, 2006
 
Social Security uncovers illegal workers

By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 7, 2006

Privacy concerns prevent the Social Security Administration from notifying an employer that a hired foreign national is not authorized to work in this country, including someone who may be a potential national security risk, says a government audit.
The audit, by the SSA's Office of the Inspector General, also found the agency fears employers will improperly terminate the illegal workers who have been issued Social Security numbers, leading to "adverse publicity."
"Unauthorized work by noncitizens weakens [Social Security number] integrity and may require that the agency pay benefits to these individuals," said Inspector General Patrick P. O'Carroll Jr. in the audit.
"In addition, noncitizens who work without (Department of Homeland Security) authorization could affect homeland security because they may obtain employment in sensitive areas."
Since 2003, the SSA has issued Social Security numbers, dubbed "non-working," to foreign nationals who need them to collect state or federal benefits, such as public assistance.
The audit released last month as immigration-reform debate heated up on Capitol Hill says 109,064 foreign nationals used their non-working Social Security numbers to report earnings at 100 companies reviewed between 2001 to 2002. It said hundreds of thousands more also are using their Social Security cards illegally.
The report said employers that posted the largest number of illegal wage earners were government, retail and universities, and the largest number of noncitizens with earnings under a non-working Social Security number were from Mexico, India and the Philippines.
The report said the average wage item ranged from $7,700 in the staffing industry to $102,000 in the technology industry, and technology and government accounted for $4 billion, or 64 percent, of the wages posted to non-working Social Security numbers by the 100 targeted employers.
To reduce the number of noncitizens who work without authorization, Mr. O'Carroll said SSA should consider examining its interpretation of existing disclosure laws and, if necessary, seek legislation allowing the agency to notify employers.
"We recognize the agency has not been tasked with the mission of immigration and workplace enforcement," Mr. O'Carroll said. "Accordingly, we believe maintaining the integrity of its [Social Security number] records should be of paramount concern to the agency as it accomplishes its legislatively mandated mission."
SSA officials disagreed with the recommendations, saying they would have a minimal effect while creating a substantial workload, both in systems development and in the field offices.
They also cited privacy concerns, saying they were limited by the Privacy Act in what the could disclose to employers about a foreign national working in the United States.
msbobbie

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Jul 9, 2006
 
Keep the pressure on Congress, people. You can type your congressperson's or senator's name in your search engine and go directly to a link to send him/her a message. We must enforce the current laws before we make any new laws. We must not change the current laws and allow those that have broken the law an escape from the punishment layed out in the original law.

Urge Congress and the Senate to pass THE FAIR TAX PLAN, aka THE NATIONAL SALES TAX.
Disgusted

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Jul 9, 2006
 
(((((((Nobody knows how many guest workers there are ... it’s hard to come up with a guest worker program if you don’t know how many guest workers there are.”)))))

Does that mean the United States Government DOES NOT even know how many LEGAL GUEST WORKER are in the United States?

OR

Has the Invading Illegal Alien obtained a new name and are now called GUEST WORKERS ---just like LEGAL GUEST WORKER by the Senator?

IF NOT

Then the USA not only does not have the slight idea how many Invading Illegal Aliens are in the USA but does not have a clue how many LEGAL GUEST WORKER the United States Government has authorized and let in the USA.
msbobbie

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Jul 10, 2006
 
I think the Senator was trying to be "compassionate" by calling the illegal aliens "guest workers" instead of what they are.

I assure you Tom Coburn will be firm in protecting Oklahomans in as a compassionate way as possible with whatever language he offers to the bill and when he casts his vote if they ever get one to a vote.

We know how many legal guest workers there are in the country. We know how many have overstayed a visa. It is impossible to know how many have crawled under a fence, through a tunnel, out of a shipping container, or swam across a river to get here, but I would bet it is at least twice the estimates.

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twinkie

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Jul 10, 2006
 
AVON PARK, Fla., July 6 — Tom Macklin, the mayor of this faded city deep in Florida's citrus belt, heard the idea on talk radio and latched on with relish.
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John Koch believes that preventing immigration will help his city.

A city up north, Hazleton, Pa., planned to root out and punish landlords who rented to illegal immigrants, fining them $1,000 for every such tenant. Mr. Macklin, whose own small city has swelled with immigrants from Mexico, Haiti and Jamaica over the past decade, swiftly proposed the same for Avon Park.

"It was almost as if I was sitting in church at a revival and he was preaching to me," Mr. Macklin said of Mayor Lou Barletta of Hazleton, whom he heard promoting that city's Illegal Immigration Relief Act on the radio show last month. "If we address the housing issue — make it as difficult as possible for illegals to find safe haven in Avon Park — then they are going to have to find someplace else to go."

Like Hazleton's proposal, Avon Park's would deny business permits to companies that knowingly hired illegal immigrants. The ordinance, which states that illegal immigration "destroys our neighborhoods and diminishes our overall quality of life," would also make English the official language of Avon Park, removing Spanish from all city documents, signs and automated phone messages.

The proposal has some of Avon Park's roughly 8,800 residents exalting, others fuming and still others — including those who rent rooms or apartments in the scruffy Golden Age Villas, west of the abandoned train tracks — plain scared. The City Council passed it 3 to 2 on the first reading and is likely to adopt it July 24
msbobbie

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Jul 10, 2006
 
I have been saying for at least 12 years that those who provide housing to the illegal population are aiding and abetting. Hurrah for Hazelton and Avon Park. The Democratic controlled State Senate in Oklahoma refused to address any proposal to discourage illegal immigration to our state this past session, yet failed to complete business in a timely manner and had to go into special session to complete a budget which included a 16% pay raise for themselves. I rekkon a lot more illegals will be heading our way.

Thank you Senator Mike Morgan and Governor Brad Henry.

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ToCan

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Jul 12, 2006
 
Tom Colburn with Do what Tyson Chicken (R) and Wal-Mart (R) want him to do. Oh, and all those Redneck Farmers too!!!!!
msbobbie

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Jul 13, 2006
 
ToCan wrote:
Tom Colburn with Do what Tyson Chicken (R) and Wal-Mart (R) want him to do. Oh, and all those Redneck Farmers too!!!!!
I do not believe for a minisecond you know anything about Tom Coburn.

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Marie Lewis

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Jul 13, 2006
 
The chilling costs of illegal migration reach like an octopus into every aspect of our lives. Illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars last year according to Harvard Professor George Borjas. College and high school kids cannot find a summer job in yard care, landscape, fast food or service jobs. Why? Illegal aliens work them at a third the wage and often, under the table.

Not only do your kids not have jobs; you’re paying taxes for illegal aliens who are not paying taxes.

Annually, 75 percent of drugs arrive from Mexico at a net cost of $120 billion hard currency that leaves our country for good. In addition, our tax dollars pay $80 billion for the War on Drugs each year. It is a war that hasn’t been won in the past 30 years and drugs are as available today to your teenager as they were in 1970.

When an alien criminal gets caught for rape, murder or drug distribution, you pay $1.6 billion annually in prison costs to house, feed and clothe those filling 30 percent of our federal and state prisons—not to mention TV, movies, weight rooms and other entertainment—they enjoy while being incarcerated.

Is your blood boiling at this point? How about illegal alien anchor babies? Over 300,000 women annually arrive pregnant and drop them on U.S. soil. You pay food, housing, medical and schooling for them to age 18 PLUS their mother. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, average annual cost per child K-12 is $7,161.00 and exceeds $109 billion annually per cycle of anchor babies. That’s your money given out to 300,000 moms and their kids annually and all they did was get pregnant and birth that child on U.S.
M Taxpayer

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Jul 15, 2006
 
Why are warning labels in spanish and not in Braille? Why are there Spanish menus in places where the sinks are too high for the handicapped. Why are people wrong for saying wetback but it's okay to call people retarded? Why do I have to press one for English and the principal of a Texas elementary had to be replaced by one who is spanish speaking? Why in the world is the US military making special programs for the spanish speaking wives when they never did for the others? Just curious!
marie Lewis

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Jul 17, 2006
 
GOLDWATER, McCAIN, AND INDENTURED SERVITUDE
GOLDWATER, McCAIN, AND INDENTURED SERVITUDE

David R. Usher
July 16, 2006
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Don Goldwater raised the ire of Republican candidate John McCain last week by suggesting that illegal immigrants should be imprisoned and have to help build a wall to stop Mexico from mass exportation of its poor and criminal citizens.

Goldwater is champing for a term as Governor of Arizona. He correctly asserts that foreigners who intentionally go out of their way to violate immigration laws have committed crimes, should be incarcerated for a period of time, and have to work to pay the costs of their incarceration.

Goldwater cites “tried and tested, effective and accepted practices” dealing with convicted non-violent felons in the penal system.

McCain, a leading Republicrat who confidently expects a presidential nomination from whatever party would have him, feels it is “deeply offensive” to do this to criminals, but only if they are from Mexico.

McCain is a decade too late opposing this notion. He supported forced labor camps when he voted for passage of the Personal Responsibility and Work Act of 1996. We have been doing this since 1996 to divorced fathers, who for no reason of their own fall behind on child support, and find their way into permanent peonage working for state prison labor camps.

Prisoners make license plates, handle airline reservations, make military tents and garb, and just about anything else the state can think of at the bargain wage of only 25-cents per hour, under the auspices of (Correctional Systems, Inc (CSI), which is America’s largest private prison contractor.

If one is really a criminal, this is a good idea as long as government isn’t competing unfairly with private businesses (which it does). But, if one happens to be a divorced father who is merely unable to earn what some bureaucrat imagines he should, PROWA is an unconstitutional form of eternal slavery.

As if supporting slavery is not bad enough, McCain co-sponsored S.1227 in 1999, in an attempt to amend PROWA to give free Medicaid and SCHIP to illegal immigrant women and children. McCain’s net idea: lock up thousands of innocent divorced men, who labor for 25-cents per hour, to pay for free medical care for illegal immigrants. How dare we do this to good American citizens who have done nothing wrong and committed no crime!

~SNIP~

To read the entire article, click here: http://www.newswithviews.com/Usher/david27.ht...
marie Lewis

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Jul 19, 2006
 
It is Amazing that people here breaking the law file suit against American Tax Payers because we try to stop supporting THEM..They not only want to break the law ..But for us to grant them a free ride while doing it..And then OUR GOVERMENT HAS THE NERVE TO FORCE US TO????AND when they get Amnesty and that is what they all want..They will never do anything except breed and eat..While your family pays for it.

State lawmakers are offering more than 500 bills this year targeting state-mandated services, illegal aliens and the employers who hire them, responding to a growing chorus of public opinion nationwide calling for stricter enforcement of immigration laws.
Led by Georgia, where benefits for illegal aliens were cut and stiff sanctions placed on employers who hire illegals, and by Colorado, which banned nonemergency services to those in the country illegally, at least 39 states have either proposed or passed similar legislation.
Lawmakers have focused on constituency concerns regarding an estimated 10 million to 12 million illegal aliens now in the country, resulting in rising costs for education and medical care, higher crime rates and exploitation by employers.
Georgia lawmakers passed and Gov. Sonny Perdue, a Republican, signed legislation this year requiring adults seeking benefits to prove their U.S. citizenship, sanctioning employers who hire illegals and requiring companies with state contracts to check employees' legal status. The Georgia laws also require police to check the legal status of people they arrest.
The bill's author, state Sen. Chip Rogers, called it "the strongest single bill in America dealing with illegal immigration -- bar none." He told The Washington Times that it was intended to send a message that "while the federal government is not enforcing its immigration laws, the state of Georgia takes those laws seriously."
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Jul 19, 2006
 
The Oklahoma House of Representatives passed a bill this last session that had stiffer penalties for employers who hire illegals and required state agencies to report suspected illegals who applied for services.

The Hispanic community in OKC had a caniption.

The Senate cosponsor of that bill, with a wink and a nod from the Governor, pulled his support.

FYI The Oklahoma House of Representatives has a GOP majority and the Senate had a Democrat majority. The Governor is Democrat.

A Republican Senator who is running for Governor offered ammendments relating to immigration to other bills, and those efforts were rejected by the other side of the isle.
M Taxpayer

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Jul 20, 2006
 
ToCan wrote:
Tom Colburn with Do what Tyson Chicken (R) and Wal-Mart (R) want him to do. Oh, and all those Redneck Farmers too!!!!!
Ah you mean those redneck farmers who get government aid and willie nelson's farm aid and turn around and hire illegals so they can keep more of the money for themselves? Perhaps those "poor farmers" should quit getting aid from everyone so they have to live like the rest of America.
marie Lewis

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Jul 21, 2006
 
TRUE M TAXPAYER....Also tell the bleeding hearts in OKA. That this stuff does not stay in Dallas it is headed your way too.
The border towns are used as a place and a means to ship these drugs all across with these Illegals Bush keeps pushing down our throats..But just remember your kids die just like ours behind these people and their drugs..

Biggest Drug Bust in Dallas History
Dallas police say they made the biggest drug bust in the city's history. The department photos show stacks of drugs, money and an arsenal of weapons seized from a house in North Dallas. More than half a million dollars in cash and 34 kilos of cocaine worth an estimated $13M were confiscated. 34 kilos is more than 70 lbs. Investigators say Oscar Fuentes, Octavio Monreal, Alfonso Montemayor and Gerardo Soto were arrested. They are being held on Federal Drug Trafficking charges.

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