Good guys don't resort to torture

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SOURCE?

SJM_ wrote:

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Another one:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/10/ira...

CB can see both sides wrote:

<quoted text>Hey stupid!! They did not break his arms, reread you post if thats possible or have someone read it for you! I was responding to your lies in the post where you stated -"thats why he can't lift either arm"- I made the comment the arms were not broken through torture, but was the result in the plane crash, and no medical follow up.
Now moron, before you go into one of your raging name calling rants at least have the "back up" in facts not your "torture them all mentality!

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They are beheading AMERICANS because we are torturing Muslims. How many Americans were beheading by Muslims before 2002?
WHat information did we receive by stripping the detainees and making them pose in pyramids? Also name one piece of valid information we received from waterboarding? If you can't name one, you need to stop talking about "saving American lives" because you have nothing to back up your statement.

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Already been there chump. Report to suicide bomber training school. I know a bunch of soldiers who would LOVE you as a target! LOL Does the word 'swiss cheese' bring any thoughts to mind? As you always allude to, they are very good at what they do.

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ratttlecattle wrote:

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American soldiers would kill their MOM for a cold six pack of cheap beer.
Get real...americans have ZERO Integrity....but have cool tattoos

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SJM_ wrote:

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Many of those things plus the waterboarding happened at Gitmo

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ratttlecattle wrote:

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American soldiers would kill their MOM for a cold six pack of cheap beer.
Get real...americans have ZERO Integrity....but have cool tattoos

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Red Foreman wrote:

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ummmm, history?

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Red Foreman wrote:

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Wow, your support for the terrorists is appalling.

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ratttlecattle wrote:

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CRICKET is totally full of CRAP.
He is another government propogandist that wants the keep the US at war permanently

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American_Infidel wrote:

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Credible link?
When the 9-11 families met with Odumba after he decided not to prosecute the USS Cole bomber...a family member asked him why he is closing Gitmo since there was no torture done there. He said, many people were confused about the torture that was at Abu Ghraib with Gitmo so it would be easier to just close it down. She asked him to leave it open, she said he just shrugged as if to say he already made up his mind to shut it down.
I'll try to find the link you can listen for yourself.

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SJM_ wrote:

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You can stop the drama now. When have we ever received vital information from torture, that has saved thousands or millions of Americans? Please don't give me the classified crap, because if they had saved millions of Americans, we would have heard about it.

Cricket 23 wrote:

I Google "Japanese waterboarded 1,347 American soldiers to death" and can't find the article. Can you post your source?

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SJM_ wrote:

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http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,859...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/164497
Isn't it funny how you blame Obama for releasing the USS COle terrorist (captured in 2002) when the Bush adminstration had SEVEN years to procecuted him!!!! Maybe they were too busy torturing him

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Chylloh wrote:

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You can stop playing elementary school child and grow up and face reality.
When?
How about a few years ago, when one of the terrorists succomb to 4 secs of waterboarding and told them about the attack on Los Angeles.
Was Los Angeles attacked?
CNN
May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM)-- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators,“Soon, you will know.”
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the “Second Wave”-- planned “‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles.”
KSM was the mastermind of the first “hijacked-airliner” attacks on the United States, which struck the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Northern Virginia on Sept. 11, 2001.
After KSM was captured by the United States, he was not initially cooperative with CIA interrogators. Nor was another top al Qaeda leader named Zubaydah. KSM, Zubaydah, and a third terrorist named Nashiri were the only three persons ever subjected to waterboarding by the CIA.(Additional terrorist detainees were subjected to other “enhanced techniques” that included slapping, sleep deprivation, dietary limitations, and temporary confinement to small spaces -- but not to water-boarding.)
This was because the CIA imposed very tight restrictions on the use of waterboarding.“The ‘waterboard,’ which is the most intense of the CIA interrogation techniques, is subject to additional limits,” explained the May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo.“It may be used on a High Value Detainee only if the CIA has ‘credible intelligence that a terrorist attack is imminent’; ‘substantial and credible indicators that the subject has actionable intelligence that can prevent, disrupt or deny this attack’; and ‘[o]ther interrogation methods have failed to elicit this information within the perceived time limit for preventing the attack.’”
So, by Obama's own words, the reason Los Angeles was spared is because we lost our "moral bearings."

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Chylloh wrote:

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I noticed the poster which is all words and no substance is echoing again.
Funny, how you omitted Clinton was too busy with his zipper to do ANYTHING to captured the terrorist of the Cole murders.
It seems, you two have something in common, you were borned with your brain misplaced.