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Richard_ wrote: <quoted text>A police officer, on a private street, in a private neighborhood, can't order anyone to do anything unless; a state of emergency has been declared, a warrant issued or they have witnessed a criminal offense and are effecting an arrest. LOL I can see life will be very difficult for you.......
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libs are scared wrote: <quoted text>
This is the reason trevon's family so desperately wanted an ARREST! They are just looking for money.
Getcher T-shirts, trademarked Treyvon Hoodies and Skittles.... You are a poor excuse for a being of the Human Race You bring down the Human Race with your rants to your level
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Sure would like to know how that fire truck cleaned up zim to where he looked just like he had a shower and dressed...
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“Uzi Does It”
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Go Blue wrote: <quoted text>...Total Bullsh*t..... No, it's not.
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libs are scared wrote: <quoted text>
LOL I can see life will be very difficult for you....... Actually, life is pretty easy for me...I'm home every night, I have weekends off, I get paid 55K a year to work three days a week, I spend half of my three work days resting at a hotel and the heaviest thing I lift all day is a pen. When we have more time, remind me to tell you how I beat my DUI accusation even though I blew a .19% BAC at the station and a .32%(TWICE) at the jail.
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PLL wrote: Sure would like to know how that fire truck cleaned up zim to where he looked just like he had a shower and dressed... It doesn't matter. A person doesn't have to submit themselves to an actual injury in order to use lawful, reasonable force, in self defense.
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Go Blue wrote: <quoted text>...Total Bullsh*t..... Wow, not only do you have it wrong on Zimmerman, you have it wrong on police powers on private property as well, which isn't suprising. A friend of mine got a DUI accuasation after driving his car on the runway of an airport on the night of the big "fly in" party, with band, beer tent, etc. The cops thought they busted the crime of the century when they caught this pilot driving his car on the runway and found him to be over the limit with his drinking. Do you want to know why the ticket got dismissed? LOL! The aiport belonged to a private flying club, LOL. The cop had no reason to be on private property, he wasn't called to the private property for any reason and was told to stay the hell off the airport unless called their for a reason. Stinking cop worshipers always get it wrong, the watch their cop reality shows with retired sheriff John Bunell describing cop chases and robberies from the late 1980s to mid 1990s and think that their concealed carry permits makes them super cops as well, and now George Zimmerman is living life large, LOL.
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Zimmerman was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather — the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him. Though civil-rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account. “Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. I’m black, OK?” the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash. “There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood. That’s why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin.” Zimmerman was born in 1983 to Robert and Gladys Zimmerman, the third of four children. Robert and Gladys met in January 1975, when she was visiting from Peru. They soon married in Alexandria and moved to nearby Manassas. Gladys was involved in Catholic church outreach programs. She would bring young George along with her on “home visits” to poor families, said a friend, Teresa Post. “It was part of their upbringing to know that there are people in need, people more in need than themselves,” said Post, a Peruvian immigrant who once lived with the Zimmermans. Post recalls evening prayers before dinner in the ethnically diverse Zimmerman household, which included siblings Robert Jr., Grace and Dawn. “It wasn't only white or only Hispanic or only black. It was mixed.” Zimmerman’s maternal grandmother, Cristina, who had lived with the family since 1978, worked as a baby sitter for years during Zimmerman’s childhood. For several years. she cared for two African-American girls who ate their meals at the Zimmerman house and went back and forth to school each day with the Zimmerman children. “They were part of the household for years, until they were old enough to be on their own,” Post said. Zimmerman served as an altar boy from age 7 to 17. “He wasn't the type where, you know,‘I’m being forced to do this,’ and a dragging-his-feet Catholic,” said Sandra Vega, who went to high school with George and his siblings. “He was an altar boy for years, and then worked in the rectory too. He has a really good heart.” George grew up bilingual, and by age 10, he was often called to the principal’s office to act as a translator between administrators and immigrant parents In 2004, Zimmerman partnered with an African-American friend and opened up an Allstate insurance satellite office, Donnelly said. Funny how the Black Power Movement and the media painted Zimmerman as a racist and a Thug like Trayvon as a saint. Seems they got their two characters mixed up.
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Richard_ wrote: If Zimmerman was able to prove self defense, he'd be immune from prosecution, it's the law. LOL! Since Zimmerman is now charged and bound over for trial, that Zimmerman is UNABLE to prove self defense or this wouldn't be so.
776.032;Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—
(1);A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant. Incorrect. One can claim self defense without claiming the Stand your Ground law. Immunity is only granted if the judge agrees that the Stand your Ground law applies and in most case where immunity was requested judges have not granted it because they prefer a jury to hear the facts. Kind of like what they do in California with there hidden stand your ground law . For more than a century, California state judges have declared that a person who reasonably believes he or she faces serious injury or death from an assailant does not have to back off - inside or outside the home - and instead can use whatever force is needed to eliminate the danger. "[The defendant] is entitled to stand his or her ground and defend himself or herself, and, if reasonably necessary, to pursue an assailant until the danger of death or great bodily injury has passed. This is so even if safety could have been achieved by retreating." California Criminal Code 3470
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Richard_ wrote: <quoted text>Your beliefs are wrong. He's being prosecuted because he doesn't have immunity from prosecution, basic math there buddy. Zimmerman's lawyer can still ask for an immunity hearing but immunity is not granted too easily and the burden of proof is on the defendant in an immunity hearing. If the request is denied, which it usually is, the defense has shown its hand and it is not a good thing to tell the prosecution how you were planning on defending your client.
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nebka wrote: <quoted text>
You are a poor excuse for a being of the Human Race
You bring down the Human Race with your rants to your level I guess the truth hurts. Besides you couldn't make something like that up!
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Richard_ wrote: <quoted text>Actually, life is pretty easy for me...I'm home every night, I have weekends off, I get paid 55K a year to work three days a week, I spend half of my three work days resting at a hotel and the heaviest thing I lift all day is a pen. When we have more time, remind me to tell you how I beat my DUI accusation even though I blew a .19% BAC at the station and a .32%(TWICE) at the jail. Keep trying.
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swampmudd wrote: <quoted text>You had the right to defend yourself long before they passed SYG. Back in the 70s Julie Castro took a gun walked into a bedroom where her husband Bernie was asleep in bed with his boy friend. She unloaded the pistol into him and killed him. She was a battered wife and said she lived in fear for her life every day. It took a grand jury about a hour to agree with her. Grand Jury, u say? 1) that is called Jury Nullafication, see OJ Simpson. 2) is that WHY Corey did NOT put her case in front of a GJ? 3) IF the Law gave Ms Castro such cover, why did the prosecutor present to a GJ? as always, ur own 'answer' refutes ur position.
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swampmudd wrote: <quoted text>Martins reaction was caused by a strange man chasing him into a dark walkway. Zimmermans story that Martin came up from behind as he was returning to his car is a flat out lie. When Zimmerman hung up with the cops he was either at the east or west entrance to the cross through.(depending on where his truck was parked) The place the killing occured on the rear walkway is not on the way to his truck from either place. unless u can PROVE that GZ did NOT fear for his life and that TM was NOT the threat and source of that fear, STFU. okay? the rest of ur drivel DOES NOT MATTER ONE LITTLE TINKER'S DAMN.
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swampmudd wrote: <quoted text>Of course after you killed her you are going to say she tried to stab you. The person who started the fight is considered the aggressor and the other person the defender. Roles do not switch as the fight progresses. The SYG says you do have to run away from a threat. SYG proponents in this case seem to think that did not apply to Martin. They keep saying it was his fault for not running away. two mistakes in ur post... one, I do believe u meant to type 'The SYG says you do (not) have to run...' and, saying 'we' say it was TM's fault because he didn't run. WE say it was HIS fault for attacking and continuing to attack GZ until he felt in fear for his life, etc... u can barely put words in ur own mouth, please do not put words in ours just to keep trolling.
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swampmudd wrote: <quoted text>That was suppose to say (The SYG says you do NOT have to run away from a threat.) I was right in my first point, and I was doubly right in my second. both in my response to the original post. u shud be have as right as I.:)
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Undefinable wrote: <quoted text>
Do people get paid in non for profits?
The answer is Yes, they do and quit handsomely in some cases upwards of over a half a million dollars a year.
Are Trayvons parents on the foundations payroll?
Several of Trayvon’s relatives, including mother Sybrina Fulton and brother Jahvaris Martin are on the board of directors. Other board members would be added as the foundation grows.
From the foundations website:
"The Purpose"
"To pursue justice on behalf of Trayvon Benjamin Martin, the son of Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin and the brother of Jahvaris Martin."
"Justice for Trayvon" is one of the phrases the family had trademarked. It is all part of the scheme to make money off of their sons death.
Do you think Trayvons family will take a salary? lol will it be a non-profit that allocates 90% or expenses 90%? if it doesn't expense at least 75%, I'll be surprised!
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higgans
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swampmudd wrote: <quoted text>All I know is that criminals can not enjoy profits from their crime. When Zimmerman is convicted the victems family will be entitled to collect any unused funds from it. more swamp law?
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Undefinable wrote: <quoted text>
Their was a eye witness to the entire thing, George Zimmerman, and it is the states responsibility to prove that he is not innocent, not the other way around.
In the USA we are innocent until proven guilty.
So far the police and the prosecutor's office has nothing on Mr. Zimmerman
April 2nd, during an exclusive interview with the Sentinel, Police Chief Lee disclosed certain details of the investigation and during that session, attended by Detective Serino and others, Serino said his investigation turned up no reliable evidence that cast doubt on Zimmerman’s account – that he had acted in self-defense.
“The best evidence we have is the testimony of George Zimmerman, and he says the decedent was the primary aggressor in the whole event,” Serino told the Sentinel March 16.“Everything I have is adding up to what he says.””
O’MARA: My question was do you have any evidence to contradict or that conflicts with his contention given before he knew any of the evidence that would conflict with the fact that he stated I walked back to my car?
GILBREATH: No.
O’MARA: Any evidence that conflicts any eyewitnesses, anything that conflicts with the contention that Mr. Martin assaulted first?
GILBREATH: That contention that was given to us by him, other than filling in the figures being one following or chasing the other one, as to who threw the first blow, no.
O’MARA: The injuries seem to be consistent with his story, though, don’t they?
GILBREATH: The injuries are consistent with a harder object striking the back of his head than his head was.
O’MARA: Could that be cement?
GILBREATH: Could be.
O’MARA: Did you just say it was consistent or did you say it wasn't consistent?
GILBREATH: I said it was.
O’MARA: Have you ever had your nose fractured or broken.
GILBREATH: No.
O’MARA: You know that that was an injury that Mr. Zimmerman sustained, correct?
GILBREATH: I know that that is an injury that is reported to have sustained. I haven’t seen any medical records to indicate that.
O’MARA: Have you asked him for them?
GILBREATH: Have I asked him for them? No.
O’MARA: Do you want a copy of them?
GILBREATH: Sure.
O’MARA: I’ll give them to the state. It’s a more appropriate way to do it. If you haven’t had them yet, I don’t want to cross you on them.
Nothing further, thank you, your honor.
That night, and in later meetings, Zimmerman described in detail, and re-enacted for police, what he says took place:
He was on his way to the store to do some errands when he spotted Trayvon Martin walking through his neighborhood.
He followed Martin, but lost track of him. He was returning to his SUV when Martin approached him from the left rear and confronted him. Martin asked him, "Do you have a problem?" He replied "No", and Martin then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar, while Zimmerman reached for his cell phone.
Martin then punched him in the face, knocking him down, and began beating his head against the ground.
Zimmerman called out for help, while being beaten, before shooting Martin once in the chest at close range, in self-defense. u need to restate ur 'in the USA' line to read 'In main stream, law-abiding USA culture...". obviously, either Fla HAS secretly seceded from the Union and/or main stream, law-abiding America OR the govt serves more than one Master TO THE DETRIMENT OF OTHERS. the 88% plus portion of the US pop that ISN'T in TM's camp ARE watching... and learning... and preparing THEIR counter-reaction. which highest profile black American do u think will be the recipient of the non-black backlash and when? not to be naming names, but, Obama told America which side he stands with, didn't he?
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Go Blue wrote: That high conviction rate, is suddenly in jeopardy...... along with her: re-election hopes law license reputation creditability honor future? wrongfully PERSECUTING A HISPANIC IN FLORIDA? not the smartest Republican in the GOP, is she?
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