Area veterans served in Vietnam with McCain

Reality Bites wrote:

I really don't care about his military record. Yes, he did endure being a POW, and that is honorable, however this does not qualify him for being the next President. He is still way off line on all the issues, and will not get my vote.

Hmmm, but then graduating from an ivy league school, being an IL Senator for 2 years and basically telling the people what they want to hear more than qualifies the other candidate?!?!?!?!?!

SO PLEASE, someone list the other candidates credentials, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE !!!!

Obsama made a 40 minute speech on the war and Afghanistan laying out his policy BEFORE he even went and talked to the commanders on the ground -- what's the reason for the trip then?
is looking for souvineers or what?

Plain BS!!!

JC_AZ wrote:

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Maybe he just wants a free trip to visit his "brothers and sisters" of the jihad?

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Photo ops and publicity no doubt..

Why he would offer a speech now is a question? Maybe he knew McCain was having a townhall meeting and wanted to upstage him, loll , but then G.W. upstaged obama..

Oh ME2 wrote:

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Hmmm, but then graduating from an ivy league school, being an IL Senator for 2 years and basically telling the people what they want to hear more than qualifies the other candidate?!?!?!?!?!
SO PLEASE, someone list the other candidates credentials, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE !!!!

Please, try the freakin truth.

Obama has two terms in the Il Senate & is serving his first term in the U.S. Senate. That is more experience than a lot of our former great presidents.

Maybe you want the experience of Cheney & Rumnmy? How about the experience of Phil Graham.

Dave wrote:

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Please, try the freakin truth.
Obama has two terms in the Il Senate & is serving his first term in the U.S. Senate. That is more experience than a lot of our former great presidents.
Maybe you want the experience of Cheney & Rumnmy? How about the experience of Phil Graham.

You probably have to go back to the civil k war to find them. Who were the 'great presidents?'

MoreWars wrote:

At the time of the Forrestal disaster, John McCain's father, Admiral McCain was Commander-in-Chief of US Naval Forces Europe (CINCUSNAVEUR) and was busy covering up the details of the deadly and pre-meditated Israeli attack on the NSA spy ship, the USS Liberty, on June 8, 1967. The fact that both McCains were involved in two incidents just weeks apart that resulted in a total death count of 168 on the Forrestal and the Liberty, with an additional injury count of 234 on both ships (with a number of them later dying from their wounds) with an accompanying classified paper trail inside the Pentagon, may be all that was needed to hold a Sword of Damocles over the head of the "family honor".

What complete drivel!

I think Mr. McCain will make a great President. You people should be honoured to have such a man represent you. He is a great friend of the Republic of Viet Nam and a respected man.

MoreWars wrote:

Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student(894 out of 899) and a lousy pilot.

Were you ever in the Navy? Have you served at all? Your posts are nothing more than a feeble attempt at character assasination. Pigs like you do not deserve a voice. I served on the USS forrstal. We had real comfy quarters because our Squadron, VF-11 Took the Brunt of the casualties. Our entire section was burned out. Pilot crahes for a number of reasons are not uncommon on carrier duty. While ops does everything to avoid these things, they happen, and not just to john McCain.

Dave wrote:

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Please, try the freakin truth.
Obama has two terms in the Il Senate & is serving his first term in the U.S. Senate. That is more experience than a lot of our former great presidents.
Maybe you want the experience of Cheney & Rumnmy? How about the experience of Phil Graham.

How about the experience of you, Dave? Have you served? Now I'll wait for the BS. "Yes I was in command of centcom before I started my multimillion dollar business in cali. Dave you, like your candidate, are just not believable.

Ooh Rah!!

Lil John wrote:

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Photo ops and publicity no doubt..
Why he would offer a speech now is a question? Maybe he knew McCain was having a townhall meeting and wanted to upstage him, loll , but then G.W. upstaged obama..

Speaking of Town Hall meetings... McCain was havina Town Hall at Ft Hood and Obama was invited... he declined because he was too busy...This CLOWN wants to be "Commander OF Chief (as he puts it) and he doesn't have time to meet with the military in a Town Hall meeting?

No prepared speech for BO and no ability to assemble real thoughts.... NOBAMA fo me!

three generations later wrote:

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How about the experience of you, Dave? Have you served? Now I'll wait for the BS. "Yes I was in command of centcom before I started my multimillion dollar business in cali. Dave you, like your candidate, are just not believable.
Ooh Rah!!

I never served in the military.

So, military experience makes you believable? Or just when the views happen to match yours. So&so is a hero - so&so is a traitor. This guy is great. This vet is trash because we want his seat in the House.

I honor the service of all veterans.

JC_AZ wrote:

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Speaking of Town Hall meetings... McCain was havina Town Hall at Ft Hood and Obama was invited... he declined because he was too busy...This CLOWN wants to be "Commander OF Chief (as he puts it) and he doesn't have time to meet with the military in a Town Hall meeting?
No prepared speech for BO and no ability to assemble real thoughts.... NOBAMA fo me!

he declined this one too , McCain called him a coward I think!

have you seen him on the debates where it's not scripted ---- uh uh ummmmm uh uh and so on

If Obama has captured the imagination of all of america, how come McCain is onlt trailing by 2 points in the polls? Obama has flip flopped his way right out of the race.

A 'town hall' meeting in Ft. Hood Texas? Geez, why just didn't the KKK invite him. I spent 3 years in Ft. Hood and even for a white guy from Idaho it was a little 'uncomfortable'? It's getting better. They only had 1 cross burning in 2007. It wasn't on the base.

JC_AZ wrote:

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Speaking of Town Hall meetings... McCain was havina Town Hall at Ft Hood and Obama was invited... he declined because he was too busy...This CLOWN wants to be "Commander OF Chief (as he puts it) and he doesn't have time to meet with the military in a Town Hall meeting?
No prepared speech for BO and no ability to assemble real thoughts.... NOBAMA fo me!

What a pile of crap.

Barack Obama has done more for veterans than McCain has done.

McCain didn't have time to even vote on the last vet bill. I tad more important. Has John McCain voted for any of the last several veteran bills? Check it out.

McCain doesn't think the time soldierrs stay in a war zone is important.

McCain did not want to give vets better benefits.

As a Navy vet who loves the Navy and somebody who strived to be a model Sailor during his time in the service, I cringe with disgust whenever anybody yaks about McCain being a “war hero” or running on his military credentials.
John Sidney McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland in 1954. Young McCain wanted to become an admiral. He planned to be the “first son and grandson of four star admirals” to achieve such a distinction. But that was not to be. McCain III possessed none of the innate character and discipline traits that helped mold his father and grandfather into great military leaders.

His father, John S.“Junior” McCain, and grandfather, John S. McCain, Sr., were famous four-star Admirals in the U.S. Navy. His father commanded U.S. forces in Europe before becoming commander of American forces fighting in Vietnam. His grandfather commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945. Both men became highly influential in U.S. Navy operations. McCain’s grades were “marginal.” He drew so many demerits for breaking curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the bottom of the class of 1958. Despite his low “class standing,” and no doubt because of the influence of his family of famous Admirals, McCain was leap-frogged ahead of more qualified applicants and granted a coveted slot to be trained as a navy pilot. While a pilot trainee, McCain continued to party hard. He drove a Corvette and dated an exotic dancer named “Marie the Flame of Florida.” Timberg wrote that McCain “learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn’t love it.”
In 1979, while attending a military reception in Hawaii, McCain met and fell in love with Cindy Lou Hensley, 17 years his junior, who was the daughter of James W. Hensley, a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor from Phoenix, Arizona. McCain filed for and obtained an uncontested divorce from his wife in Florida on April 2, 1980 and promptly married Cindy on May 17, 1980.

He resigned from the Navy in 1981 and went to work for his father-in-law in Phoenix; where he used the opportunity to make powerful and wealthy friends in Arizona including banker Charles Keating and Duke Tully, the editor-in-chief of the Arizona Republic. Keating was later convicted of fraud, racketeering, and conspiracy and Tully was disgraced for concocting a phony military record of combat in Korea and Vietnam including medals for heroism.

three generations later wrote:

If Obama has captured the imagination of all of america, how come McCain is onlt trailing by 2 points in the polls? Obama has flip flopped his way right out of the race.

Yea where's the Hillary bump LOLL

it ought to be an interesting photo op with the Palestinians

Dave wrote:

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I never served in the military.

I honor the service of all veterans.

How exactly do you demonstrate this 'honor' you speak of? All you lefties spew the words and never actually go beyond that...don't waste your breath trying to pander to the Veterans who give you the right...I would rather not even hear it because I know it is EMPTY

MoreWars wrote:

As a Navy vet who loves the Navy and somebody who strived to be a model Sailor during his time in the service, I cringe with disgust whenever anybody yaks about McCain being a “war hero” or running on his military credentials.
John Sidney McCain III entered the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland in 1954. Young McCain wanted to become an admiral. He planned to be the “first son and grandson of four star admirals” to achieve such a distinction. But that was not to be. McCain III possessed none of the innate character and discipline traits that helped mold his father and grandfather into great military leaders.
His father, John S.“Junior” McCain, and grandfather, John S. McCain, Sr., were famous four-star Admirals in the U.S. Navy. His father commanded U.S. forces in Europe before becoming commander of American forces fighting in Vietnam. His grandfather commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945. Both men became highly influential in U.S. Navy operations. McCain’s grades were “marginal.” He drew so many demerits for breaking curfew and other discipline issues that he graduated fifth from the bottom of the class of 1958. Despite his low “class standing,” and no doubt because of the influence of his family of famous Admirals, McCain was leap-frogged ahead of more qualified applicants and granted a coveted slot to be trained as a navy pilot. While a pilot trainee, McCain continued to party hard. He drove a Corvette and dated an exotic dancer named “Marie the Flame of Florida.” Timberg wrote that McCain “learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn’t love it.”
In 1979, while attending a military reception in Hawaii, McCain met and fell in love with Cindy Lou Hensley, 17 years his junior, who was the daughter of James W. Hensley, a wealthy Anheuser-Busch distributor from Phoenix, Arizona. McCain filed for and obtained an uncontested divorce from his wife in Florida on April 2, 1980 and promptly married Cindy on May 17, 1980.
He resigned from the Navy in 1981 and went to work for his father-in-law in Phoenix; where he used the opportunity to make powerful and wealthy friends in Arizona including banker Charles Keating and Duke Tully, the editor-in-chief of the Arizona Republic. Keating was later convicted of fraud, racketeering, and conspiracy and Tully was disgraced for concocting a phony military record of combat in Korea and Vietnam including medals for heroism.

Go back to you daily kos capt. loomis!

Dave wrote:

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What a pile of crap.
Barack Obama has done more for veterans than McCain has done.
McCain didn't have time to even vote on the last vet bill. I tad more important. Has John McCain voted for any of the last several veteran bills? Check it out.
McCain doesn't think the time soldierrs stay in a war zone is important.
McCain did not want to give vets better benefits.

Been reading Huffington Post I see...what exactly has the great military supporter, Barrack Hussein Obama DONE for the military?

The "Veteran's Bill" you speak of was loaded with pork related to unemployment benefits, illegal healthcare and assorted other tripe... OF COURSE Obami would jump in to FINALLY vote other than "present" for this one...

You people just DO NOT GET IT!