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LocalBoy
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JDC wrote: <quoted text> You mean like prescriptions for seniors that the GOP supported, the largest new entitlement in decades? The GOP passed that for the sole purpose of winning the Florida senior vote. So tell me how they are different than the liberal democrats they say they oppose? Had the GOP actually legislated like fiscally responsible conservatives, you would have never heard of the tea party. And because the Tea Party is co-opted by Fox news watching, warmongering sheep it wont do diddly....except get in bed with Lieberman and McCain. Tea Party under Armie and Palin is being driven off a cliff, as it was intended. Why else would two know idiots lead it ? I dont see either Palin or Armie living beneath their means to lead a revolution that will require that from all of us....5 star hotels and private jets are not what I call leading a conservative movement, especially when we learn who pays for it. Liberty is the movement, not Tea
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Epicurus
Ocala, FL
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LocalBoy wrote: <quoted text>It works like this....prop up a dictator who enforces with violence. Require the dictator to borrow from the IMF, BIN, etc and pay it back with US government debt. The deal means Wall Street gets all resources and owns all businesses, the dictator gets anything he wants in exchange for cheap labor and natural resources. Uncle Sam gets a base and a customer for arms, Wall Street gets resources and the American people get cheap products to offset our inflation at home. Vietnam is easy, we needed bauxite and gold...they had it. Nixon removes the last link to gold because we were running out. He , right after that, went into Cambodia and escalated the war.....mining of gold. Iraq in the early 50's..Mosaddegh was elected by the locals to build universities with oil royalties. He wanted the going rate and the company our CIA director and his brother, The Seceratary of State, owned with the British bankers ushered in a dictator instead. So the Dulles boys simply started a new company, named it British Petroleum and stole the peoples oil. The US got military bases and oil the oil was sold using dollars, making demand for our inflationary dollar policy. Same thing with fruit in S.America and the Caribbean Islands, same brothers. The sad fact is todays Social Security, food stamp program, etc....was ushered by theft. Theft from locals all over the world and now theft from unborn citizens in all nations. All so the elites can control us..... The leadership in our nation today is not unlike the old English Aristocracy we fought to gain our independence from. Lying, thieving warmongers hell bent on living beyond their means on the backs of working people. Its neomercantilism, we warned about this by both Adam Smith and Thomas Jefferson.......arrogantly, we did not learn. Politicians are nothing anymore, the problem lies in our aristocracy. Sadly, our so called financial security is tied up in the aristocracy that owns our government. Pandoras box.....no way in, no way out. The box must dismantled from inside out, bottom to top. The good news is the people have all the power, all they need is will.....free will. KUDOS! Excellent post! I situation reminds be of the French Revolution. The privileged nobility controled the peasants - until they finally had enough of 'let em eat cake' and lopped off their greedy heads and took their property. The government is already OWNED. The population is dumbed-down and the results are obvious to anyone with intelligence. gEORGE SUMS IT UP.. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Epicurus
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LocalBoy wrote: <quoted text>Philosophy....as in their stated goals....NewsFlash - They lie, both parties. Donkey voter and Elephant voter, but votes dont mean shit, do they ? EXACTLY. Voting is meaningless, the govt is already controlled. I prefer these ideas... and you? 1. Eradicate the Bush tax cuts for the rich and institute new taxes on the wealthiest Americans and on corporations, including a tax on all trading on Wall Street (where they currently pay 0%). 2. Assess a penalty tax on any corporation that moves American jobs to other countries when that company is already making profits in America. Our jobs are the most important national treasure and they cannot be removed from the country simply because someone wants to make more money. 3. Require that all Americans pay the same Social Security tax on all of their earnings (normally, the middle class pays about 6% of their income to Social Security; someone making $1 million a year pays about 0.6%(or 90% less than the average person). This law would simply make the rich pay what everyone else pays. 4. Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, placing serious regulations on how business is conducted by Wall Street and the banks. 5. Investigate the Crash of 2008, and bring to justice those who committed any crimes. 6. Reorder our nation’s spending priorities (including the ending of all foreign wars and their cost of over $2 billion a week). This will re-open libraries, reinstate band and art and civics classes in our schools, fix our roads and bridges and infrastructure, wire the entire country for 21st century internet, and support scientific research that improves our lives.. 7. Join the rest of the free world and create a single-payer, free and universal health care system that covers all Americans all of the time. 8. Immediately reduce carbon emissions that are destroying the planet and discover ways to live without the oil that will be depleted and gone by the end of this century. 9. Require corporations with more than 10,000 employees to restructure their board of directors so that 50% of its members are elected by the company’s workers. We can never have a real democracy as long as most people have no say in what happens at the place they spend most of their time: their job.(For any U.S. businesspeople freaking out at this idea because you think workers can’t run a successful company: Germany has a law like this and it has helped to make Germany the world’s leading manufacturing exporter.) 10. We, the people, must pass three constitutional amendments that will go a long way toward fixing the core problems we now have. These include: a) A constitutional amendment that fixes our broken electoral system by 1) completely removing campaign contributions from the political process; 2) requiring all elections to be publicly financed; 3) moving election day to the weekend to increase voter turnout; 4) making all Americans registered voters at the moment of their birth; 5) banning computerized voting and requiring that all elections take place on paper ballots. b) A constitutional amendment declaring that corporations are not people and do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. This amendment should also state that the interests of the general public and society must always come before the interests of corporations. c) A constitutional amendment that will act as a “second bill of rights” as proposed by President Frankin D. Roosevelt: that every American has a human right to employment, to health care, to a free and full education, to breathe clean air, drink clean water and eat safe food, and to be cared for with dignity and respect in their old age.
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Redman
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LocalBoy wrote: <quoted text>Philosophy....as in their stated goals....NewsFlash - They lie, both parties. I stand with my eyes open, and from my view there is no difference in act between the leadership of the Donkey and the leadership of the Elephant. War Wall Street theft Destruction of the Bill of Rights Monetary destruction Give me a break, you actually think there is a difference in policy between the Donkey and Elephant at the federal level.....its all just rhetoric, at the end of the day they will vote, without reading the bill, just as their handlers require. There may very well be differences between the average Donkey voter and Elephant voter, but votes dont mean shit, do they ? WOW! What a bad attitude you have acquired....it might be better that you spent some time with others rather than the ones you are hanging with. I suppose there always will be a difference between people but you are a hard A-hole with hardened attitude only you can improve.... I couldn't spend a lot of time with you before wanting to shoot someone just for the heck of it! Here's hopeing you find help and soon....hope you are single.
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LocalBoy
Indianapolis, IN
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Redman wrote: <quoted text> WOW! What a bad attitude you have acquired....it might be better that you spent some time with others rather than the ones you are hanging with. I suppose there always will be a difference between people but you are a hard A-hole with hardened attitude only you can improve.... I couldn't spend a lot of time with you before wanting to shoot someone just for the heck of it! Here's hopeing you find help and soon....hope you are single. Married, five children and all is good. In fact my adult children continue to applaud me for walking away and living free. Truth does that to a family, it brings them together. Bad attitude....nope. Just the opposite. Living beneath our means has changed our lives for the better, it really has. Done wonders for my relationship with the Mrs....but we never talk politics, she knows better. She quit watching TV news, threw away the debt cards and cooks all the time now. Heres hoping you find truth soon, I am worried about you......
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Brian_G wrote: They hate the Donald Trumps, Paris Hiltons and Mitt Romneys of this world, hate them because they are rich. They despise those who make success because they are failures. We should means test food stamps beneficiaries, and weigh them. Stop food stamp obesity; reform entitlement spending. Even the meanest, most austere entitlement reform proposal has one thing the Democratic Party refuses to provide; a plan for the future. Donald Trump is a very successful bloviator. Paris Hilton is brain dead and spoiled. What has she ever contributed aside from a sex tape and subsidy to some clothing designer and paparazzi income? Mitt Romney seems to be a well-intentioned decent man from a privileged upbringing, and I don't know who could hate the man. He found a niche and succeeded quite well financially and in his personal life from everything we read or see. He's a politician, not a saint. Our children are our future. How they are treated in this society will determine what our future becomes. Today, about 1/4 of those children live in food insecure households and in poverty, and we are not educating them in any acceptable measure. We have sunk to 20th worldwide in standings in reading and math. How do we compete with that kind of failure? "They" is such a vague term. People supporting Romney run the gamut from moderate conservatives to fringer birthers, just as people who prefer Obama range from the far left to the square middle who know they were gravely harmed by trickle down economic policies. Independents are split as well. Those voters include early members of The Tea Party who stepped away owing to the movement's inclusion of the fringer/birther/social constructionists. Regardless, I really don't think who Americans elect will make a lot of difference unless we fix our broken corrupt Congress, negotiate a budget that reduces the deficit, and do something about influence peddling and outright greed and indifference to society as a whole.
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Epicurus wrote: <quoted text> EXACTLY. Voting is meaningless, the govt is already controlled. I prefer these ideas... and you? 1. Eradicate the Bush tax cuts for the rich and institute new taxes on the wealthiest Americans and on corporations, including a tax on all trading on Wall Street (where they currently pay 0%). 2. Assess a penalty tax on any corporation that moves American jobs to other countries when that company is already making profits in America. Our jobs are the most important national treasure and they cannot be removed from the country simply because someone wants to make more money. 3. Require that all Americans pay the same Social Security tax on all of their earnings (normally, the middle class pays about 6% of their income to Social Security; someone making $1 million a year pays about 0.6%(or 90% less than the average person). This law would simply make the rich pay what everyone else pays. 4. Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, placing serious regulations on how business is conducted by Wall Street and the banks. 5. Investigate the Crash of 2008, and bring to justice those who committed any crimes. 6. Reorder our nation’s spending priorities (including the ending of all foreign wars and their cost of over $2 billion a week). This will re-open libraries, reinstate band and art and civics classes in our schools, fix our roads and bridges and infrastructure, wire the entire country for 21st century internet, and support scientific research that improves our lives.. 7. Join the rest of the free world and create a single-payer, free and universal health care system that covers all Americans all of the time. 8. Immediately reduce carbon emissions that are destroying the planet and discover ways to live without the oil that will be depleted and gone by the end of this century. 9. Require corporations with more than 10,000 employees to restructure their board of directors so that 50% of its members are elected by the company’s workers. We can never have a real democracy as long as most people have no say in what happens at the place they spend most of their time: their job.(For any U.S. businesspeople freaking out at this idea because you think workers can’t run a successful company: Germany has a law like this and it has helped to make Germany the world’s leading manufacturing exporter.) 10. We, the people, must pass three constitutional amendments that will go a long way toward fixing the core problems we now have. These include: a) A constitutional amendment that fixes our broken electoral system by 1) completely removing campaign contributions from the political process; 2) requiring all elections to be publicly financed; 3) moving election day to the weekend to increase voter turnout; 4) making all Americans registered voters at the moment of their birth; 5) banning computerized voting and requiring that all elections take place on paper ballots. b) A constitutional amendment declaring that corporations are not people and do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. This amendment should also state that the interests of the general public and society must always come before the interests of corporations. c) A constitutional amendment that will act as a “second bill of rights” as proposed by President Frankin D. Roosevelt: that every American has a human right to employment, to health care, to a free and full education, to breathe clean air, drink clean water and eat safe food, and to be cared for with dignity and respect in their old age. Here, here! Great blueprint.
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xex
Miami, FL
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Epicurus wrote: <quoted text> EXACTLY. Voting is meaningless, the govt is already controlled. I prefer these ideas... and you? 1. Eradicate the Bush tax cuts for the rich and institute new taxes on the wealthiest Americans and on corporations, including a tax on all trading on Wall Street (where they currently pay 0%). 2. Assess a penalty tax on any corporation that moves American jobs to other countries when that company is already making profits in America. Our jobs are the most important national treasure and they cannot be removed from the country simply because someone wants to make more money. 3. Require that all Americans pay the same Social Security tax on all of their earnings (normally, the middle class pays about 6% of their income to Social Security; someone making $1 million a year pays about 0.6%(or 90% less than the average person). This law would simply make the rich pay what everyone else pays. 4. Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, placing serious regulations on how business is conducted by Wall Street and the banks. 5. Investigate the Crash of 2008, and bring to justice those who committed any crimes. 6. Reorder our nation’s spending priorities (including the ending of all foreign wars and their cost of over $2 billion a week). This will re-open libraries, reinstate band and art and civics classes in our schools, fix our roads and bridges and infrastructure, wire the entire country for 21st century internet, and support scientific research that improves our lives.. 7. Join the rest of the free world and create a single-payer, free and universal health care system that covers all Americans all of the time. 8. Immediately reduce carbon emissions that are destroying the planet and discover ways to live without the oil that will be depleted and gone by the end of this century. 9. Require corporations with more than 10,000 employees to restructure their board of directors so that 50% of its members are elected by the company’s workers. We can never have a real democracy as long as most people have no say in what happens at the place they spend most of their time: their job.(For any U.S. businesspeople freaking out at this idea because you think workers can’t run a successful company: Germany has a law like this and it has helped to make Germany the world’s leading manufacturing exporter.) 10. We, the people, must pass three constitutional amendments that will go a long way toward fixing the core problems we now have. These include: a) A constitutional amendment that fixes our broken electoral system by 1) completely removing campaign contributions from the political process; 2) requiring all elections to be publicly financed; 3) moving election day to the weekend to increase voter turnout; 4) making all Americans registered voters at the moment of their birth; 5) banning computerized voting and requiring that all elections take place on paper ballots. b) A constitutional amendment declaring that corporations are not people and do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. This amendment should also state that the interests of the general public and society must always come before the interests of corporations. c) A constitutional amendment that will act as a “second bill of rights” as proposed by President Frankin D. Roosevelt: that every American has a human right to employment, to health care, to a free and full education, to breathe clean air, drink clean water and eat safe food, and to be cared for with dignity and respect in their old age. Make having a job a constitutional right? LMAO, straight from Socialist Utopia. Seriously, the only think you mentioned that would actually help the economy is getting out of foreign wars. Everything else would either do nothing or would further the downturn.
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Epicurus
Ocala, FL
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xex wrote: <quoted text> Make having a job a constitutional right? LMAO, straight from Socialist Utopia. Seriously, the only think you mentioned that would actually help the economy is getting out of foreign wars. Everything else would either do nothing or would further the downturn. Spoken like a person that is fact allergic and severly reality challenged. Please continue in you're courageous battle with literacy.
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Upland White Power
Temple City, CA
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JDC wrote: I cannot beleive that democrats and republicans will not agree on this in regards to the pentagon budget: We have 80,000 troops stationed in Europe that have been there since the end of WWII 67 years ago. We have 30,000 troops still stationed in Japan since the end of WWII 67 years ago We have 25,000 troops still in S Korea and they have secured their border, when we cannot secure our own border. We can debate about the need for troops in Afghanistan. But does anybody really believe we need our troops in these foreign country in light of the fact that our government today finances over 40 cents on every dollar spent. For the life of me, I cannot understand why all of Washington supports crazy policies like this. It certainly isn't defense of our country as the Constitution states. Anybody want to defend this policies of our troops all over the world? Imperialism seems to be an ok thing with Republicans and is well worth the debt they intend to put on our future children.
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Upland White Power
Temple City, CA
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xex wrote: <quoted text> Make having a job a constitutional right? LMAO, straight from Socialist Utopia. Seriously, the only think you mentioned that would actually help the economy is getting out of foreign wars. Everything else would either do nothing or would further the downturn. Having the right to a job in the USA is alive today and very much socialist. Why else are you all here upset over illegals stealing your jobs? I'm not attacking you but rather making it clear that the right to have a job in the USA is a federal law, for all intents & purposes, it's pretty close to a constitutional right. No US Citizen can ever lose the right to work in the USA. At least I've never seen that happen.
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H Gribble
Hyattsville, MD
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You sound exactly like a person that calls herself Wake Up on some other forums.
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Wake Up
Romeoville, IL
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You are trapped in your IP address. H Gribble wrote: You sound exactly like a person that calls herself Wake Up on some other forums.
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Redman
Choctaw, OK
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LocalBoy wrote: <quoted text>Married, five children and all is good. In fact my adult children continue to applaud me for walking away and living free. Truth does that to a family, it brings them together. Bad attitude....nope. Just the opposite. Living beneath our means has changed our lives for the better, it really has. Done wonders for my relationship with the Mrs....but we never talk politics, she knows better. She quit watching TV news, threw away the debt cards and cooks all the time now. Heres hoping you find truth soon, I am worried about you...... Well I am surprised, sounds like you are better grounded than I thought, congratulations on the Five and hope they learn that all is not as bad as some think, your wife has got to be an angel for putting up with you.... hope your path is always lit with the shining light from above and your work is dedicated to a better life for those that work for it, and not just for those unwilling to help. Stay on the right side and you will be fine.......
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REWBA wrote: <quoted text> Did you know that their are people who do not need public assistance yet they play stupid and keep on taking that money anyway? Here is a story about a woman who won the lottery but kept on spending accepting public assistance. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/17/michigan... That is totally beside my point. The point is that ending outsourcing would go a long way to ending food stamp dependency. That is one isolated instance that has nothing to do with outsourced jobs.
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“Kiss me, I'm Irish-friendly!”
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Quirky wrote: <quoted text> You should. A good losening of your P**P shoot would help your grumpy Constipation Issues! Poosit replies Quirky: positronium wrote: <quoted text>Loosen up with ENOZ CRAP SODA! Now on sale at your favorite drug store.... ROTFFLMMFAO!!!! You guys need to make it official. LOL! REPEAT AFTER ME: I, Posi , take you, Q-Cumber, to be my wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, or for worse, for richer, or for poorer, in sickness, and in health, to love and to honor and to cherish unconditionally. Forsaking all others, I will be faithful to you. And with this ring, I thee wed. USMAil: By the powers vested in me by the Rebel Alliance I now declare you loving partners for life. What the Alliance has united let no man divide. Congratulations, Mrs. and Mr. Woodchuck, you can swap strapons now.
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“Kiss me, I'm Irish-friendly!”
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Upland White Power wrote: <quoted text> Having the right to a job in the USA is alive today and very much socialist. Why else are you all here upset over illegals stealing your jobs? I'm not attacking you but rather making it clear that the right to have a job in the USA is a federal law, for all intents & purposes, it's pretty close to a constitutional right. No US Citizen can ever lose the right to work in the USA. At least I've never seen that happen. There's no federal law that guarantees anyone the right to a job. Federal law regulates the workplace, but for better or worse a job is still a considered a temporary privilege granted by the employer- not by law. :Tenure and seniority rights are totally a different matter:
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USMail XXXII wrote: <quoted text> Poosit replies Quirky: <quoted text> ROTFFLMMFAO!!!! You guys need to make it official. LOL! REPEAT AFTER ME: I, Posi , take you, Q-Cumber, to be my wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, or for worse, for richer, or for poorer, in sickness, and in health, to love and to honor and to cherish unconditionally. Forsaking all others, I will be faithful to you. And with this ring, I thee wed. USMAil: By the powers vested in me by the Rebel Alliance I now declare you loving partners for life. What the Alliance has united let no man divide. Congratulations, Mrs. and Mr. Woodchuck, you can swap strapons now. ROTFLMAO! Funniest post in ages.
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The GOP plans to win Florida in November. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-05-30/b... More Floridians on food stamps despite increase in jobs Indeed, the number of people on food stamps is at an all time high of 175,688 in Palm Beach County — 0.4 percent more just in April — while Broward has a record 267,755 receiving food stamps — a 0.8 percent jump last month, she said. The state as a whole was up 0.4 in April. Some of April's food stamp increases in South Florida likely stemmed from seasonal layoffs in the tourist industry... Statewide, the food program has been adding recipients each month, although the rate has dramatically slowed since the recession officially ended in June 2009
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USMail XXXII wrote: <quoted text> Poosit replies Quirky: <quoted text> ROTFFLMMFAO!!!! You guys need to make it official. LOL! REPEAT AFTER ME: I, Posi , take you, Q-Cumber, to be my wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, or for worse, for richer, or for poorer, in sickness, and in health, to love and to honor and to cherish unconditionally. Forsaking all others, I will be faithful to you. And with this ring, I thee wed. USMAil: By the powers vested in me by the Rebel Alliance I now declare you loving partners for life. What the Alliance has united let no man divide. Congratulations, Mrs. and Mr. Woodchuck, you can swap strapons now. Congratulations to Quirky and POS, may they live happily ever after.....LMAO!
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