While Rome Burned...They Talked About Lipstick

Matt wrote:

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The conversation was on Clintons uncontrolled spending habits in easier times. It was Clinton who opened the doors to Communist China (his buddies),and well now we have a trade deficit of some 20+ billion a month. those are US dollars saying BYE, BYE, every month, and the only reason nothing is being done is likely someone is making BIG bucks in this country.
I don't have the deficit figures, but I'd guess they are minimal in 2002, as compared to a democrat majority in both houses of appropriations, in 2008.
Why do dems always think they can get away with the spin that it is the presidents fault when spending is out of control, when it is congress...?
Clinton had dem majorities when he started, and repubs came in and balanced the budget in 7 years.
Gas prices could be controlled by CONGRESS, not the President. We have dems running congress now.

DOA wrote:

Mr. Obama, you are a fine public speaker and eloquent author. You are also an extremely liberal Senator from the State of Illinois , which has a long and rich history of political corruption of the first magnitude. You are indeed a invention of that system. I am disgusted, that in a country teeming with enormously talented African Americans who would make a good President, that the political system has chosen YOU. John McCain could never have convinced me to vote for him. But you, Mr. Obama, have indeed convinced me to vote for McCain.
YOU have the audacity to look us in the eye and ask us to believe that you never heard 'God Damn America' Jeremiah Wright’s hate speeches in all the years you attended his church! This is like me telling you that I attended dozens of Klan rallies and never once heard the disgusting 'N' word. You have also attempted to disguise and minimize your ties and friendships with other known terrorists and radicals. Evidently, you will say or do anything to obtain the power behind the highest office in the land. So far, nothing regarding your tactics indicates any “change” for the better.
As for Mr. McCain, once he is elected, I want him to go into the Oval Office and throw one of his legendary temper tantrums. I want him to Jump up and down and throw something through a plate glass window. Rip the drapes down and foam at the mouth a bit. And I want the whole thing on camera so that Ahmadinejad can see it. I want the nuclear button sitting right next to the alarm clock on John’s nightstand. I want pictures of this to be sent to Iran , Russia , China , Venezuela , Cuba , Libya , Syria , Pakistan , and those other dopes in the sheets, the Saudis. I want ALL of these 'world leaders' to lay awake at night and to break out in a cold sweat when they consider that you are a flawed man with a notoriously bad temper. Perhaps then they will think twice before messing with the United States of America.
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DOA wrote:

Mr. Obama, you are a fine public speaker and eloquent author. You are also an extremely liberal Senator from the State of Illinois , which has a long and rich history of political corruption of the first magnitude. You are indeed a invention of that system. I am disgusted, that in a country teeming with enormously talented African Americans who would make a good President, that the political system has chosen YOU. John McCain could never have convinced me to vote for him. But you, Mr. Obama, have indeed convinced me to vote for McCain.
YOU have the audacity to look us in the eye and ask us to believe that you never heard 'God Damn America' Jeremiah Wright’s hate speeches in all the years you attended his church! This is like me telling you that I attended dozens of Klan rallies and never once heard the disgusting 'N' word. You have also attempted to disguise and minimize your ties and friendships with other known terrorists and radicals. Evidently, you will say or do anything to obtain the power behind the highest office in the land. So far, nothing regarding your tactics indicates any “change” for the better.
As for Mr. McCain, once he is elected, I want him to go into the Oval Office and throw one of his legendary temper tantrums. I want him to Jump up and down and throw something through a plate glass window. Rip the drapes down and foam at the mouth a bit. And I want the whole thing on camera so that Ahmadinejad can see it. I want the nuclear button sitting right next to the alarm clock on John’s nightstand. I want pictures of this to be sent to Iran , Russia , China , Venezuela , Cuba , Libya , Syria , Pakistan , and those other dopes in the sheets, the Saudis. I want ALL of these 'world leaders' to lay awake at night and to break out in a cold sweat when they consider that you are a flawed man with a notoriously bad temper. Perhaps then they will think twice before messing with the United States of America.
AUTHOR UNKNOWN

ucantbsrius wrote:

<quoted text>The Clinton boom was from a number of things. The internet bubble, raising taxes to a responsible level,balancing the budget,job creation and the public having confidence in the economy, so they spend spend spend. That is what fuels this monster, the American public.
Both parties have made good decisions and mistakes up to the Bush Administration.At that point it was one big mistake after another.
I wish you could give credit where it was due and accept blame(you have somewhat)where it is due.
Your biggest mistake is blaming Clinton for anything that is occurring now. The Republicans had Both houses and the office of the President and an even split Supreme court. They could have addressed any issue they wished. To blame Clinton for any ills now is just irresponsible propaganda tactic politics.
The Republican revolution was short lived.They forgot what brought them to Washington.
Clinton never got a line item veto. It isn't available to the President. Bush asked for it too.I am glad no President has had it. I can just imagine what a bought and paid for corporate President could do.
Again, Bush and Rumsfeld were slashing the Military before 9-11. Clinton had given the soldiers the biggest raise they had seen in history. Not the action of a President who hates the military, is it?
You have heard those same talking points you use for a very long time and can't let them go can you? Time to get some real information, move forward, lose Rush and Hannity. They only do harm.

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ucantbsrius wrote:

<quoted text>It is very telling you would blame this huge debt on a President that was a main player in the reduction of foreign debt who served almost 8 years ago. Put blame where it belongs, on Bush's lap.

Matt wrote:

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Good to know you're a conservative; don't know how anyone could miss that..
I don't take talking points from your stereotype choice of Hannity, or Rush, though both are intelligent. I see things as they are. Glad there is an opportunity in this country to actually BE a conservatve and say the truth.
The soldiers deserved a raise LONG before Clinton finally caved in to pressure.
Bush and Rumsfield were NOT slashing the military before 911. Get your facts straight Canadian.
Obama is a closet muslim. You've probably seen a list of his 'associates, or even friends'. You still could vote for him? That just says either you're really stupid, or just have the blinders on, and have America-envy like many elitists in Canada have. My guess is you are just willingly ignorant out of peer pressure.

Matt wrote:

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Good to know you're a conservative; don't know how anyone could miss that..
I don't take talking points from your stereotype choice of Hannity, or Rush, though both are intelligent. I see things as they are. Glad there is an opportunity in this country to actually BE a conservatve and say the truth.
The soldiers deserved a raise LONG before Clinton finally caved in to pressure.
Bush and Rumsfield were NOT slashing the military before 911. Get your facts straight Canadian.
Obama is a closet muslim. You've probably seen a list of his 'associates, or even friends'. You still could vote for him? That just says either you're really stupid, or just have the blinders on, and have America-envy like many elitists in Canada have. My guess is you are just willingly ignorant out of peer pressure.

ucantbsrius wrote:

<quoted text>Wow, you're really out there, American-envy? Why should I envy a country and population who have lost their freedoms, economy, standing in the world.
Canada, has always been respected in the World. Our economy is strong, and we work out our differences.I could be have changed my citizenship, but have no desire to be American. I only moved here at the request of my American wife. If not for our real estate, we would have left. As it is now we are will take a loss if McSame gets in. Jealous? Nice try though.

Matt wrote:

<quoted text..' My guess is you are just willingly ignorant out of peer pressure.

Matt wrote:

Instead of maintaining the military strength of the Reagan-Bush build-up, Clinton downsized, and then pacified our enemies, while spending the saved surplus of those things on more socialist programs. He should have used the surplus to increase intelligence at least on our enemies, find who/where they are, but he was so preocupied, he used FBI recources on his POLITICAL adversaries, Republicans, to get any dirt on them to blackmail them in case his philandering , or socialism tendencies were under scrutiny.(3 point range, nothin' but net..)

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wannabee alaska wrote:

Palin has been honest about what she doesn't know ( at least before she was picked for the VP spot). When asked last month about the vice-presidency, she said, "I still can't answer that question until someone answers for me: What is it exactly that the VP does every day?"
When asked about Iraq, she said: "I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."
And what about any other pesky foreign policy? No problem - "We can actually see Russia from some parts of Alaska."

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ucantbsrius wrote:

<quoted text>Wow, you're really out there, American-envy? Why should I envy a country and population who have lost their freedoms, economy, standing in the world.
Canada, has always been respected in the World. Our economy is strong, and we work out our differences.I could be have changed my citizenship, but have no desire to be American. I only moved here at the request of my American wife. If not for our real estate, we would have left. As it is now we are will take a loss if McSame gets in. Jealous? Nice try though.

Plain Jane wrote:

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As a matter of fact, Clinton's NSA Director, Clarke, tried repeatedly to brief Rice and Bush on al Qaeda and his high level of anxiety over him but they refused to even meet with him. He sent repeated e-mails to Rice and even stopped her outside the White House to convey his serious concerns. Cofer Black testified to the 9/11 Committee that at the time of all this intelligence pouring in about al qaeda and possible terrorists in the US and possible attacks, the threat level was at a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10. It was at 8 during the millinneum. They had the warnings and experienced people expressing grave concerns over a pending attack and did NOTHING.

Matt wrote:

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Bush kept democrat Richard Clarke in JUST FOR that purpose, to brief him of impending threats.
I'm sure the Terrorists were in the country during the Clinton administration. Clinton downsized the CIA, and FBI and especially the military. Gorelick was Attorney general and caused the CIA and FBI fo be unable to share intelligence..What kind of idiotically ridiculous policy was that? And the old INS was as usual not doing it's job for fear of looking racist, you know, just how you dems want the world to accept Obama and his closet muslim, marxist, and abortion ideologies, BECAUSE he is half black. You dems are race manipulators, and race baiters. Vote for you and youll throw 'em a welfare check or something. You have no national allegiance, so you garnish support by dividing the populace into convenient voting blocks; then you blame white- european America for ANY thing you can to cause them SOME guilt about something so you can extort by taking their tax dollars.

Plain Jane wrote:

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Check the 9/11 Commission report Matt. It's all there laid out nice and tidy. I'll even get you the link. Making excuses and trying to blame Clarke and Clinton because Rice wouldn't meet with him is pathetic. Bush went on a month long vacation in the midst of extremely heightened warnings of eminent terrorist attacks. All Clinton's fault.
http://books.google.com/books...

Matt wrote:

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The facts remain the same whether or not you have compassion on those who were warned by their DEMOCRAT mayor to get out of New Orleans. I am sorry for those that COULDN'T make it out. That's different. But when you've been warned, what do you do,...blame Bush?
That's all you bottle-fed socialists want to do is BLAME, BLAME the repubs., till they cough up more US tax dollars and expand Govt. and bring us closer to a marxist state, which is what you most likely have been taught at your college, by 'elite' educated soft-marxists.
It would be a TRAGEDY if we bought into marxist policies completely without the checks against them by conservatives. Really, few others beside conservatives are what keep you from converting the west into a Soviet style dictatorship.
I've already been to school, but we never stop learning. What I've just said is worth more than 4-6 years of elitist nonsense that you'll eventually need straightened out by clear thinkers. GO PALIN!

Matt wrote:

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Wow, at least you're honest now about being an elitist. Most libs wouldn't admit that, they'd just keep on looking down their noses at anyone who doesn't buy into their atheist ideas as they go on walking on God's earth.