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guest wrote: <quoted text> As I value all opinions, I will not dismiss this one out of hand, while it is true that 1 in 10 native American deaths are alcohol associated, as opposed to half that percentage for the general population. I would think we need to look into the underlying socioeconomic, and population concentrations for native Americans that struggle with this problem. Having done just a small amount of research, one can quickly determine that many factors, like the treatment that native Americans receive from members of the majority population, such as yourself, has a profound impact on a variety of their struggles. One can also determine that an interaction to sell or trade for a human being, is illegal in every state, I assume you were in one of the few counties in Nevada that have legalized prostitution, so therefor thought this act may have been legal. In fact it was not, for a number of reasons, if you bought or traded for this girl by dealing with someone else, intending ownership, you have broken the law, that is slavery, not legal anywhere in the U.S. If the girl was under age, and intended for use as a sexual slave, then you have broken more laws, and as far as I'm concerned, in my humble opinion, you should be locked up and castrated. Killing yourself with alcoholism is legal, what you have done is not, nor moral. or ethical. Whose the worse representative of their respective race? You have my vote. excellent post in every way, thanks
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Brian_G wrote: Get to the bottom of 'Fast and Furious', find out who helped kill our border agents. Don't let them hide the truth. Yeah, like the WAR IN IRAQ....
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Vance1 wrote: <quoted text> Heck dude, I will always be so called "combative" toward radical leftists who intend to destroy our country. Hey Dood, you've got a problem and an attitude, your twisted perception has little to do with reality ...
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guest wrote: <quoted text> Many people have differing opinions on the direction to take this country. The educated, uneducated, combative, passive, conservative, liberal, and moderate. To claim that any of them "intend to destroy our country" is misguided. I would contend, that people that dismiss opinions without regard, based on the political or ideological leanings of the person espousing them, do more damage to this country than the ones able to engage in constructive debate about the specifics of an opinion, irregardless of it's source. The opinion, makes itself sustainable or not, on it's own merrits, not the beliefs of the person espousing it. What I see here is an example of someone who has been politically corrected to the point of numbness. To paraphrase; every voice should be heard, and no voice is of ill intent. Voices of similar minds often parrot similar thoughts, so to some degree we can predict what different groups will say. We can even predict what we will hear. Call me a political profiler. However, to be aware of how crafty each group is of promoting their philosophy, listening and digesting is imperative. To believe that no one would desire to "destroy our country" shows the dire concern I have for the process that has corrected thinking to the point that there are only thoughts, in of itself, brings our county to the brink of its destruction.
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Brian_G wrote: Get to the bottom of 'Fast and Furious', find out who helped kill our border agents. Don't let them hide the truth. Long before Fast and Furious, over 19,000 traced crime guns were originally sold in AZ and TX and recovered and traced to Mexican drug crimes. I don’t recall the GOPers giving much thought to dead Mexicans. But now that the body count can be attributed to a bureaucracy run by Democrats, suddenly it becomes an outrage. Our drug policies do far more to cause violence in Mexico than Fast and Furious ever did. That doesn't mean gun-walking wasn't scandalous. It just means a much bigger scandal has yet to be addressed. Republicans don't care about dead Mexicans, unfortunately, neither do Democrats. They talk about how tragic it is that 300 Mexican nationals were killed by Fast and Furious. But they keep right on supporting the war on drugs. Bush and Obama both, insisted that our southern neighbor keep fighting it, and our Latin American allies too, though they're despairing. Since 2006, an estimated 35,000 people have been killed by drug violence in Mexico, including 200 Americans. An estimated 10% are police, military, security officers, or other public officials. An undercover team of investigators attending the Crossroads of the West Gun Show in Arizona and found that one could buy a semiautomatic weapon even if one cannot pass a background check. For years, people in AZ have been buying AK47s in the hundreds and those guns making their way across the border into Mexico, where guns are outlawed, and into the hands of drug cartels.
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positronium wrote: <quoted text> What I see here is an example of someone who has been politically corrected to the point of numbness. To paraphrase; every voice should be heard, and no voice is of ill intent. Voices of similar minds often parrot similar thoughts, so to some degree we can predict what different groups will say. We can even predict what we will hear. Call me a political profiler. However, to be aware of how crafty each group is of promoting their philosophy, listening and digesting is imperative. To believe that no one would desire to "destroy our country" shows the dire concern I have for the process that has corrected thinking to the point that there are only thoughts, in of itself, brings our county to the brink of its destruction. In other words Guest is a pollyanna!
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frank wrote: <quoted text> Hey Dood, you've got a problem and an attitude, your twisted perception has little to do with reality ... He actually serves a purpose....he pushes the independents toward giving Obama a second term....they see, just how childish the Reich can be....he is like a reverse barometer, for the electorate.....Sssshh.....
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guest wrote: <quoted text> Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Just like we say all the time in this country, controlling the number of guns that can fall into criminal hands is not relevant, see NRA talking points. We have to make sure our population can arm itself for protection, these were armed border agents that were killed. Guns were not given to these people, they were bought "legally" at one of a thousand American stores along our Mexico border, that cater to this exact clientele. If you expect ATF and Border Patrol to stop every gun going over the border, we will need to increase federal spending, to put an agent on duty for every 100 feet or so, of the border. Good luck with that. The cartels are not gun poor, they are all armed like every criminal on the streets of this country, that border agents were killed is sad, the type or origin or the firearms used is irrelevant. The People who did the killing are not the same ones that are responsible for allowing this to happen...
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positronium wrote: <quoted text>What I see here is an example of someone who has been politically corrected to the point of numbness. To paraphrase; every voice should be heard, and no voice is of ill intent. Voices of similar minds often parrot similar thoughts, so to some degree we can predict what different groups will say. We can even predict what we will hear. Call me a political profiler. However, to be aware of how crafty each group is of promoting their philosophy, listening and digesting is imperative. To believe that no one would desire to "destroy our country" shows the dire concern I have for the process that has corrected thinking to the point that there are only thoughts, in of itself, brings our county to the brink of its destruction. So for you, "all liberals want to destroy our country", is not an overreach? So those of us that beleive that both sides (parties) have good points and bad points, and will not dismiss a point of debate, solely on the basis of which party it came from, are out of touch? I will just disagree. Remember who will decide this election, it's not the captured base of either party. It is the independent vote that will elect the next President. Blanket statements about liberals or conservatives, does not, I feel, work to bring those independents to one side or the other. Do people have a desire to intentionally destroy our country? Yes. Are those people solely of liberal or conservative persuasion? I don't beleive so. Will people unknowingly support laws that may degrade our nation in the short or long run? Yes. But to call people that are not well versed in certain bills and laws and their impact, are not, in my opinion, tryin to destroy this country intentionally, they just need to be informed of the effects of the things they are supporting. Pigionholing, and name calling is not the same as informing and convincing. Trying to convince an independent, that a bill is a bad plan, by denouncing the people that created it, won't work. They are independent because they see things in both parties worth voting for, and against.
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positronium wrote: <quoted text>The People who did the killing are not the same ones that are responsible for allowing this to happen... I am a member of the NRA, and I support their work to not regulate the shop owners responsible! Its not the NRA's fault or the shop owners! Blame is squarely in the hands of the people doing the shooting. If your saying that we should hold GW or Obama or either of their attorney generals responsible, that's like saying we should hold a gun owner that had his gun stolen responsible for the murder it was used in? And the fact is, these we're never government owned guns! They moved from private gun selling shops to people that had the proper ID's to buy them. It is not anyone's responsibility to track every gun that gets sold, it's not only impossible, as far as I'm concerned it's unconstitutional!
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guest wrote: <quoted text> I've been called names by many people, typically those with no legitimate response, or just a lack of ability to put their thoughts into coherent sentences. I may, for all you know, be working diligently to get your candidate elected. Knowin which party I am leaning toward in this election, is irrelevent in this particular argument. I dont have a cantidate. there is really no difference in the partys. I will vote for romney not because I have any faith in him. I just percieve Romney as the lesser evil. There isnt a viable political or ballott box solution.
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guest wrote: <quoted text> I am a member of the NRA, and I support their work to not regulate the shop owners responsible! Its not the NRA's fault or the shop owners! Blame is squarely in the hands of the people doing the shooting. If your saying that we should hold GW or Obama or either of their attorney generals responsible, that's like saying we should hold a gun owner that had his gun stolen responsible for the murder it was used in? And the fact is, these we're never government owned guns! They moved from private gun selling shops to people that had the proper ID's to buy them. It is not anyone's responsibility to track every gun that gets sold, it's not only impossible, as far as I'm concerned it's unconstitutional! now we are getting somewhere, question
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REWBA wrote: <quoted text> Vince said he was a Native American. I have lived around Indians and all I can say is hide the firewater. Well, unless you wanna trade for something. You can give an engine a shot of firewater and it will trade an island for a shiny bead. But just remember, the word "Indian Giver" was coined for a reason. Once I traded a drunk Indian a bottle of whiskey for his little sister. The very next day that Indian was knocking on my door demanding his little sister back and he even refused to give me the bottle of whiskey I traded for her. You can't be too careful with them engines. Really nice post coming from an illustrious ex-military officer. I wonder what would've happened if you had expressed yourself while still in uniform? Really classy, jack ass!! You whine about people insulting you and personal attacks, etc. Then you post crap like this. Glad to see that racism is alive and well in the liberal sector of operations!!!
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guest wrote: <quoted text> I am a member of the NRA, and I support their work to not regulate the shop owners responsible! Its not the NRA's fault or the shop owners! Blame is squarely in the hands of the people doing the shooting. If your saying that we should hold GW or Obama or either of their attorney generals responsible, that's like saying we should hold a gun owner that had his gun stolen responsible for the murder it was used in? And the fact is, these we're never government owned guns! They moved from private gun selling shops to people that had the proper ID's to buy them. It is not anyone's responsibility to track every gun that gets sold, it's not only impossible, as far as I'm concerned it's unconstitutional! I disagree with your assessment. A gun owner that has his gun stolen and is later used in a murder should no way be held accountable. HOWEVER, the ATF ORDERED the gun store owners to let the multiple purchases go through against the store owners objections. There is a big difference between having a weapon stolen and later used in a violent crime, and knowingly allowing the illegal sale of guns to go forward and then having them used to kill a US law enforcement officer. Of course the DOJ should be held accountable for this and whoever had knowledge of it and/or authorized it. At a minimum, they should have accessory to murder charge brought against them.
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O Rely wrote: <quoted text>Long before Fast and Furious, over 19,000 traced crime guns were originally sold in AZ and TX and recovered and traced to Mexican drug crimes. I donÂ’t recall the GOPers giving much thought to dead Mexicans. But now that the body count can be attributed to a bureaucracy run by Democrats, suddenly it becomes an outrage. Our drug policies do far more to cause violence in Mexico than Fast and Furious ever did. That doesn't mean gun-walking wasn't scandalous. It just means a much bigger scandal has yet to be addressed. Republicans don't care about dead Mexicans, unfortunately, neither do Democrats. They talk about how tragic it is that 300 Mexican nationals were killed by Fast and Furious. But they keep right on supporting the war on drugs. Bush and Obama both, insisted that our southern neighbor keep fighting it, and our Latin American allies too, though they're despairing. Since 2006, an estimated 35,000 people have been killed by drug violence in Mexico, including 200 Americans. An estimated 10% are police, military, security officers, or other public officials. An undercover team of investigators attending the Crossroads of the West Gun Show in Arizona and found that one could buy a semiautomatic weapon even if one cannot pass a background check. For years, people in AZ have been buying AK47s in the hundreds and those guns making their way across the border into Mexico, where guns are outlawed, and into the hands of drug cartels. good thing those guns didn't kill Mexican people
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see the light
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Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote: <quoted text> You are right, and in fact Obama is not using Patriot Act in the same way that President Bush did. Bush even allowed listening to phone conversations between Deployed Military and their Spouses. Sickening. Obama listens to Republicans phone calls, never mind about terrorists.
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