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John wrote: Just because the gene pool produces defects does not mean it is a healthy or prominent American lifestyle. I try not to think about what they actually do with each others body parts. A revolting thought at best. The g's should stay in their closets and stop the push to make the lifestyle seem normal. Just because your genetic defect isn't so bad you are still able to type, does not mean you are worth listening to... it would seem you are very interested in what they do with each others' bodies. most normal people don't fixate on it like you do.
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John wrote: Just because the gene pool produces defects does not mean it is a healthy or prominent American lifestyle. I try not to think about what they actually do with each others body parts. A revolting thought at best. The g's should stay in their closets and stop the push to make the lifestyle seem normal. perhaps you're right... Hey can we do the same with fat smelly people? Maybe even skinny dorks and midgets? Such revolting imagery of those people having sex. Oh! Oh! And hairy Mexicans to!!!
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Since: Mar 11
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Rogue Angel wrote: <quoted text> perhaps you're right... Hey can we do the same with fat smelly people? Maybe even skinny dorks and midgets? Such revolting imagery of those people having sex. Oh! Oh! And hairy Mexicans to!!! Adios Mio! Smeone get them some Nair and some workd visas...
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“Vita e' Bella.”
Since: May 12
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woodtick57 wrote: <quoted text>i don't know. Because we have no laws set up for it? In a way we do. One man, one ex-wife w/two kids, one current wife also with two kids, he's the biological father of all four. Each has a legal status in relationship to him. I thought read somewhere that there are polygamists who marry, divorce, and remarry, so that each wife/exwife will have some form of legal recognition.
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Since: Mar 11
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Pietro Armando wrote: <quoted text> In a way we do. One man, one ex-wife w/two kids, one current wife also with two kids, he's the biological father of all four. Each has a legal status in relationship to him. I thought read somewhere that there are polygamists who marry, divorce, and remarry, so that each wife/exwife will have some form of legal recognition. yet the ex wives do not have the same legal ties to the current wife. Nice try, but you'll still have to keep your many wives in the dark for now. probably safer for you anyway...
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RnL2008 wrote: <quoted text> Did they have to? or did they not do so because bumper stickers didn't exist in the day? And just because they didn't have some symbol to identify with.......didn't make them any less who they were, right? Rose, mi amica I knew you'd miss me. I do not believe modern concepts, values, norms, cultural beliefs, etc. can be, or should be projected into the past, regardless of the situation, or issue. The same hold true with the ssm. I've said in numerous posts same sex sexual behavior is not new. Various societies scattered throughout time and place have accepted and/or tolerated it. Some of those have even recognized same sex relationships, although that doesn't automatically mean they wete accepted as "marriage", and/or were on par with opposite sex marriage. SSM is a relatively recent, Western, creation. So is the idea of a "gay/lesbian/homosexual " identity. We need to keep that in mind when viewing the past.
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woodtick57 wrote: <quoted text>yet the ex wives do not have the same legal ties to the current wife. Nice try, but you'll still have to keep your many wives in the dark for now. probably safer for you anyway... Cute. Thanks for the laugh. I didn't say they had the same legal status, just that had a legal status in relation to the husband.
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Pietro Armando wrote: <quoted text> Rose, mi amica I knew you'd miss me. I do not believe modern concepts, values, norms, cultural beliefs, etc. can be, or should be projected into the past, regardless of the situation, or issue. The same hold true with the ssm. I've said in numerous posts same sex sexual behavior is not new. Various societies scattered throughout time and place have accepted and/or tolerated it. Some of those have even recognized same sex relationships, although that doesn't automatically mean they wete accepted as "marriage", and/or were on par with opposite sex marriage. SSM is a relatively recent, Western, creation. So is the idea of a "gay/lesbian/homosexual " identity. We need to keep that in mind when viewing the past. You are incorrect about the gay identity. it is not something new. how many times do you need to be told?
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Since: Mar 11
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Pietro Armando wrote: <quoted text> Cute. Thanks for the laugh. I didn't say they had the same legal status, just that had a legal status in relation to the husband. so it is not anything like polygamy. thanks for clearing that up.
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woodtick57 wrote: <quoted text>Adios Mio! Smeone get them some Nair and some workd visas... lol
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Since: Feb 08
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John wrote: Just because the gene pool produces defects does not mean it is a healthy or prominent American lifestyle. But enough talking about you. We were discussing same-sex marriage. Let's go back to that.
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“Marriage equality for all”
Since: Jul 07
Illinois
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John wrote: Just because the gene pool produces defects does not mean it is a healthy or prominent American lifestyle. I try not to think about what they actually do with each others body parts. A revolting thought at best. The g's should stay in their closets and stop the push to make the lifestyle seem normal. You're confusing our demand for equal rights as a desire to be seen as normal. These are two distinct things. Frankly, you'd honor me if you would never consider me anything close to "normal". Why would I want to be like you?
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“laugh until your belly hurts”
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RiversideRedneck wrote: <quoted text> It is? Sure. When the church refuses, the gays are gonna cry "discrimination!!!" they can't, they won't and they haven't. there are enough churches which will give ss couples a nice church wedding if they so desire, or they are more than free to have a civil marriage and they know it.
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“Reality is better than truth.”
Since: Nov 09
Indianapolis
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Then it is more prolific in humans. So is binocular vision. What's the point? Pair-bonding is fairly rare in the animal kingdom, so it stands to reason that same-sex pair-bonding would be rare as well. RiversideRedneck wrote: According to geneticist Simon Levay in 1996, "Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity. It is much more prolific in humans.
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“Thou Shalt Not Spill”
Since: Jun 12
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Marengo Jon wrote: <quoted text> You're confusing our demand for equal rights as a desire to be seen as normal. These are two distinct things. Frankly, you'd honor me if you would never consider me anything close to "normal". Why would I want to be like you? Truth is you don't have to be 'like' anyone dumbfuck. That's one of the freedoms you should enjoy in this country. And confusing equal rights as a desire to be seen as normal??? Normal to whom fuckstick? To me with this one post I don't think you 'normal' given you've displayed signs bigger than a 1,700 watt billboard on a busy freeway that you choose to hate a segment of the U.S. population that has nothing to do with your sorry ass rather than get on with your own shitass life. FYI.
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“Reality is better than truth.”
Since: Nov 09
Indianapolis
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Nope. I got death threats, but not one of the little cowards even directly confronted me. I'm not someone you want to get on the bad side of. RiversideRedneck wrote: <quoted text> I bet you got your ass kicked a lot! HAHAHA you deserve it.
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“Reality is better than truth.”
Since: Nov 09
Indianapolis
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It's not a dodge. You have no argument until and unless you overturn bigamy laws. SSM is predicted on the legal basis of the relationzhip; polygamy is not because its basis is illegal. until you change that condition, it's not an issue. Pietro Armando wrote: <quoted text> Nice dodge. Don't be scared, give it shot. Why should we alter the marriage requirements/laws for one group, but not for another? Bigamy laws can be changed, or eliminated. What makes the same sex argument superior, more compelling, better, than the plural marriage argument?
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“Reality is better than truth.”
Since: Nov 09
Indianapolis
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No, it doesn't. Hetero marriage was new once, as well. Did you people not allow marriage until it "developed"? Of course not. Nor can it develop unless it is in action. Civil marriage is a legal institution; it can be changed by many processes and is not bound by tradition, religion, history, or culture. Its only parameter is the constitution. Pietro Armando wrote: <quoted text> Woody Perhaps I didn't communicate my point clearly. Two men, and/or two women are not going to interact as would a man, and a woman. The institution of marriage is built on the m/f relationship. SSM is a virtual recent invention. There's no deep, historical, cultural, traditional, religious, etc. same sex marriage institution. Thus one has to be developed as time passes.
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“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”
Since: Mar 11
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Pietro Armando wrote: <quoted text> Rose, mi amica I knew you'd miss me. I do not believe modern concepts, values, norms, cultural beliefs, etc. can be, or should be projected into the past, regardless of the situation, or issue. The same hold true with the ssm. I've said in numerous posts same sex sexual behavior is not new. Various societies scattered throughout time and place have accepted and/or tolerated it. Some of those have even recognized same sex relationships, although that doesn't automatically mean they wete accepted as "marriage", and/or were on par with opposite sex marriage. SSM is a relatively recent, Western, creation. So is the idea of a "gay/lesbian/homosexual " identity. We need to keep that in mind when viewing the past. Pete, SSM simply DOESN'T exist. That's a fact and to keep making it seem as if it does is one of the reasons that you keep thinking of things not entered into evidence. My wife and I don't have a Same-Sex Marriage.....we simply have a State issued Marriage License like countless other legally married couples do. The only difference is that we both happen to be women.....but my marriage is truly no different than my aunt and uncles, or my sister's and their husbands.......NONE of us have children with our current spouses......and California views them ALL the same:-) Chow
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Indianapolis
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This is just more BS from the frc. RiversideRedneck wrote: Homosexual activists attempt to portray their lifestyle as normal and healthy, and insist that homosexual relationships are the equivalent in every way to their heterosexual counterparts. Hollywood and the media relentlessly propagate the image of the fit, healthy, and well-adjusted homosexual. The reality is quite opposite to this caricature which was recently conceded by the homosexual newspaper New York Blade News: www.frc.org/get.cfm...
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