Obama Announces Full Support for Gay Marriage

May 9, 2012 Full story: politix.topix.com 26,178

It's a historic day for gay rights activists: Obama has just announced his support for gay marriage.

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#10814 Jun 27, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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I will vote for President Obama. Romeny is a corporate raider who loves to outsource our jobs and kill our communities. We can not afford to turn this country over to Romeny's Wall Street planet rapers. Don't let Romeny purchase the presidency. Say NO to Madison
Avenue and the people who sent your jobs away.
Where are Obama's jobs that he was creating???? Those 'green' jobs he promised have failed to take root and he only really grew the federal government as far as employment goes...not sure how that helps us....

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#10815 Jun 27, 2012
Peaches wrote:
<quoted text>What are you going to do if he is voted in for 4 more years. Will you eat your own words. Just asking.I didn't vote for him.
the beauty o fit is that if he somehow, by some miracle, manages to lose the election to mittens doma will fall by the end of november and by the time he leaves the whitehouse in january same sex marriage will be written into the u.s. constitution in big, bold, black letters and will be legal everywhere in the u.s... and there won't be a winnet ridden thing that mittens can do about it other than bend over and grab his ankles.

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#10816 Jun 27, 2012
Marvin in Denver wrote:
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Obama is a Socialist whose political agenda must be halted this November. The country cannot afford 4 more years of his nonsense.
we can only wish that mr. obama was a socialist. our country cannot afford to NOT socialise medicine and education.

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#10817 Jun 27, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
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Where are Obama's jobs that he was creating???? Those 'green' jobs he promised have failed to take root and he only really grew the federal government as far as employment goes...not sure how that helps us....
while presidents don't and can't create jobs (they haven't been allowed to do so since fdr ended the great depression in the u.s.) over 600,000 jobs have been created in the u.s. under his watch. romney, and any other conservative only wishes to destroy that progress.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#10818 Jun 27, 2012
Ken wrote:
Amazing...someone so full of hate can also be even fuller of yourself...
Pompous windbag comes to mind.
Tapping away and pontificating endlessly droning on posts that will soon be forgotten.
What a dope!
Thank you, that was short, off topic, and pointless.
Get That Fool wrote:
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Wow! Who should read the constitution??? Not only did you post it....you posted 'EXACTLY' what I said....
Voting my conscience is a direct fulfillment(sic) of my 'free exercise thereof.....
My conscience has absolutely nothing to do with congress establishing religion....can you understand these two very different concepts???
It's 'you' that needs to take a class (for you own benefit, don't pick a liberal 'lying' college).....
It’s funny that you elongate, only what you wish to see. OK, Fool. Your argument advocates allowing you to vote your religious values into law… Do you know what that means? It means violating the religious freedoms of others, including those who wish to be unassociated with any religion.

You keep arguing about protections of the law, which is inherently what state marriage is; and you express an urge to hold homosexuals as second class citizens with less than equal protection of the laws (as they are unable to marry the consenting adult of their choosing).

You are incapable of articulating even so much as a rational basis to deny them such equal protection of the law. If same sex marriage offends your religious sensibilities, then you have a direct remedy. Do you know what that is? You have the freedom NOT TO EXERCISE your right to marry someone of the same sex. You don’t have the right to use the law as an instrument to abide by your religious morals (in fact doing so violates their free exercise of religion).

You owe a debt to those liberal ‘lying’ colleges, they produced the founders that felt government should not be invasive in people’s lives, and that everyone deserved equal freedom and protection of the law.
Tiella wrote:
Oh my gosh, I am not against gay civil unions but this is such a bunch of convoluted nonsense! Your take on the establishment of religion clause in this context is, to put it nicely, a SSSTTRREETTCCHHH.
Blatherskite much?
In my view, the establishment clause is not in play, this is a simple matter of equal protection. That being said, there is already a basis that separate is inherently unequal, which is why I disagree with civil unions.

Fool believes that they should be able to force their religious moral views onto others, which would be a significant establishment clause issue. Apparently, fool is incapable of seeing that just as they have the freedom to worship the religion of their choice, they also have the freedom not to enter into a marriage they find objectionable on moral, religious, or any other grounds.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#10819 Jun 27, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
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Let's take 'your' belief as to what a federal question means...
Even if you are correct, ssm is still not a 14th amendment issue and here's why....the litigant sued under violation of the 14th amendment, but the justices so no violation to answer to, because there is no right to ssm under the 14th amendment....
You overlooked the part about State Constitutions didn't you? There is no more fundamental right than the right to marry the person of your choice, the person you love and wish to commit yourself too for life.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#10820 Jun 27, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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while presidents don't and can't create jobs (they haven't been allowed to do so since fdr ended the great depression in the u.s.) over 600,000 jobs have been created in the u.s. under his watch. romney, and any other conservative only wishes to destroy that progress.
Exactly! Call most companies today when you have a problem. Who do you get? An operator in India, the Philippines or someone in Southeast Asia. Look at the products you buy in the store. Where are they manufactured? That's right, overseas in some sweat shop. The corporate raiders like Mitt Romney have sold us down the river to make short term capital gains. They even borrow money to do this and pay only 15% income tax on their ill-gotten gains. Now he's attempting to buy his way into the presidency.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#10821 Jun 27, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
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Where are Obama's jobs that he was creating???? Those 'green' jobs he promised have failed to take root and he only really grew the federal government as far as employment goes...not sure how that helps us....
Road construction and infrastructure jobs. Heath care would have been a huge boost in the creation of jobs. The Teabags are short sighted fools just like you.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#10822 Jun 27, 2012
Get That Fool wrote:
Let's take 'your' belief as to what a federal question means...
Even if you are correct, ssm is still not a 14th amendment issue and here's why....the litigant sued under violation of the 14th amendment, but the justices so no violation to answer to, because there is no right to ssm under the 14th amendment....
And yet, you continue to cite a State Supreme Court case whose decision you cannot offer a rational defense of.

Is heterosexual infertility merely a theoretical imperfection?
Is procreation a prerequisite for or legal requirement of legal marriage?
Can infertile heterosexual couples marry?

You see fool, and you are looking ever more foolish all the time, your arguments are nothing more than rationalizations. It makes no sense to have a procreative requirement of marriage, solely applicable to homosexuals, and exclusively to exclude them from equal protection.

Surely, EVEN YOU, can see that such a restriction is neither rational or just. Or, perhaps you think I should be able to vote on your free exercise of religion, or your right to keep and bear, or perhaps you freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, or maybe you don't mind if I vote against your right to vote (particularly since you have expressed not problem in ignoring the establishment clause with your vote)?

There is a reason why certain things, equal protection among them are held to a higher standard of scrutiny before they can be denied. So, Fool, where is that ever important compelling state interest served by denying same sex couples equal protection to marry. You have been mute on this question for some time.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#10823 Jun 27, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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the beauty o fit is that if he somehow, by some miracle, manages to lose the election to mittens doma will fall by the end of november and by the time he leaves the whitehouse in january same sex marriage will be written into the u.s. constitution in big, bold, black letters and will be legal everywhere in the u.s... and there won't be a winnet ridden thing that mittens can do about it other than bend over and grab his ankles.
Interesting scenario my friend.
Ken

Walnut Creek, CA

#10824 Jun 27, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
Dissent is different from deliberate obstruction. If obama found the cure for all disease, the GOP would have done everything they could to stop it from being used, because it would make obama look good. They don't care if the legislation is reasonable or if people want it; they have all but admitted out loud that their sole purpose has been to keep obama from being effective.
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Of course only you and Democrats know what is reasonable. Guess all those people who elected Republicans have no right to speak. Typical liberal free speech hater, that's you.

Look at the past...Senator Obama called for special investigation of Bush in 2007 when he used executive powers...You have a selective memory.

Obama is not royalty.

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#10825 Jun 27, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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we can only wish that mr. obama was a socialist. our country cannot afford to NOT socialise medicine and education.
What happened to the 'free market'??? Aren't we capitalists???? Why can't people purchase their own insurance and bring the market prices down competitively???

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#10826 Jun 27, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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You overlooked the part about State Constitutions didn't you? There is no more fundamental right than the right to marry the person of your choice, the person you love and wish to commit yourself too for life.
Actually, let's take a look at the state constitutions, since 32 of them say marriage is between a man and a woman....

Let me ask you....you are set on the 'two' people, yet you don't concede the two people can be a brother or sister/mother and son/ etc....

Do you believe any 'two' consenting adults have the right to marry??

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#10827 Jun 27, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Road construction and infrastructure jobs. Heath care would have been a huge boost in the creation of jobs. The Teabags are short sighted fools just like you.
Aren't they 'federal government' jobs??? What about the private sector who does most of the hiring in America....how do we get them to start hiring again????

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#10828 Jun 27, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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while presidents don't and can't create jobs (they haven't been allowed to do so since fdr ended the great depression in the u.s.) over 600,000 jobs have been created in the u.s. under his watch. romney, and any other conservative only wishes to destroy that progress.
That's not exactly record-breaking...

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Since: May 09

Nonya!

#10829 Jun 27, 2012
lides wrote:
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And yet, you continue to cite a State Supreme Court case whose decision you cannot offer a rational defense of.
Is heterosexual infertility merely a theoretical imperfection?
Is procreation a prerequisite for or legal requirement of legal marriage?
Can infertile heterosexual couples marry?
You see fool, and you are looking ever more foolish all the time, your arguments are nothing more than rationalizations. It makes no sense to have a procreative requirement of marriage, solely applicable to homosexuals, and exclusively to exclude them from equal protection.
Surely, EVEN YOU, can see that such a restriction is neither rational or just. Or, perhaps you think I should be able to vote on your free exercise of religion, or your right to keep and bear, or perhaps you freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, or maybe you don't mind if I vote against your right to vote (particularly since you have expressed not problem in ignoring the establishment clause with your vote)?
There is a reason why certain things, equal protection among them are held to a higher standard of scrutiny before they can be denied. So, Fool, where is that ever important compelling state interest served by denying same sex couples equal protection to marry. You have been mute on this question for some time.
You've never understood it and never will...I'll bet even when the supremes knock out ssm, you will still be using the same tired illogical arguments.....sucks to be you.....

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#10830 Jun 27, 2012
Pietro Armando wrote:
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I'm well aware of that. I've read some of his books. The question is, did Jesus exist? Yes.
Did some preacher named Jesus cause a stir during the early 1st Century? Probably. But the character of Jesus that people venerate today is a myth.
no big O

Bolingbrook, IL

#10831 Jun 27, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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while presidents don't and can't create jobs (they haven't been allowed to do so since fdr ended the great depression in the u.s.) over 600,000 jobs have been created in the u.s. under his watch. romney, and any other conservative only wishes to destroy that progress.

Wow that number makes the big O LOOK like he knows what he is doing... until you realize that since Obama took office, We still have 572,000 FEWER jobs (total) now than when Obama was inaugurated. But in true big O fashion... dont look at the real numbers...

Romney wishes to destroy this progress... how.. by getting big government out of the way... by getting needless government bureaucracy out of businesses way so they can grow and hire more people which will raise tax dollars coming in without raising taxes... Ya please don't throw us into that brier patch
k_v_f

Valencia, CA

#10832 Jun 27, 2012
Ex-GOP Con wrote:
I support black people having the right to marry.
I support interracial people having the right to marry.
And I support gay people having the right to marry as well.
God Bless America!
I say get Obama out of there! He is using the Gay and illegal alians, and hispanics population to win his election. I don't support gay marriage!!

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Since: Mar 12

The Land of OZ

#10833 Jun 27, 2012
Marvin in Denver wrote:
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Obama is a Socialist whose political agenda must be halted this November. The country cannot afford 4 more years of his nonsense.
Why we let Bush fruck it up for 8 years

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