Obama Announces Full Support for Gay Marriage

Reverend Alan wrote:

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Nice post, it is always heart warming to meet people who are aware of what the Bible tells us. We used to have a thread at the old MSN chat rooms called I WANT THIS READ IN SUNDAY SCHOOL and people who post verses, like you have posted here, which no way in hell would ever find their way into Sunday School.
I particulary like your idea of "drop cloths" with offending verses on them. Very nice. We used to get large pieces of cardboard and write "Matt. 5:42, "Give to those who ask, and don't turn away from those who want to borrow."" Several beggers told me they made less money with our signs. I guess Christians needed to go home and verify the verse was accurate or not. Or maybe there just aren't any Christians willing to obey the Bible?
I really enjoyed your post.

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<quoted text>Maybe because it should be discussed. To deny that homosexual males are interested in young boys is sweeping the problem under a rug.

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Reverend Alan wrote:

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If you are looking for long lists of news articles about how badly Christians behave you are in the right place:
http://wheresjesus.multiply.com/journal/item/...
You'll enjoy some of the discussions between each article. When I find vol. 1 and 2, I'll post a link.

Reverend Alan wrote:

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Since you hate America and the American way it is no suprise you are unfamiliar of the job the American Government was invented to perform.
I do not believe that anyone knows the exact number of people who self identify as gay, why does it matter? I tell you it matters not!
If there were only two men or two women in America who wished to get naked and bump uglies together it is still the job of the Federal Government to protect their right to engage in this peaceful activity between two consenting adults.
If only two men in the whole entire world wish to marry each other and they live in America our Government has the responsibility of protecting their right to do so. It doesn't matter how many brain farts the religious experince or how many of the con-artists heads exploud after hearing the news. It is simply none of their business. Just as gay marriage is none of your business.

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I prefer conversation about factual data that is found with the CDC, FDA,FBI, Multiple State Health Departments,Multiple Universities and compatible data from
other countries.
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The fact that homosexuals make up 4% of the population in the U.S. may be overstated, the number is most likely less.
It has been in the interest of homosexuals to magnify their numbers for political reasons and create an air of normality about sexual retardation.
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Reverend Alan wrote:

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"Thus it can be seen that in 1999 there was one divorce for every two marriages in the United States, a "crude" divorce rate of 50%. The Rutgers National Marriage Project ( marriage.rutgers.edu ) bases their review of divorce trends on the number of marriages per 1000 unmarried women 15 years of age or older, and the number of divorces per 1000 married women in the same age bracket."
A true follower of Jesus can neither divorce someone,
(a) "So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder"(Matt. 19:6, Mark 10:9), nor marry someone who is divorced,
(b) "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery" (Matt. 5:32, 19:9, Luke 16:18). There is an exception to the former, however. If the spouse commits adultery, divorce is permissible: "Whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery" (Matt. 5:32). The Bible also says that anyone who obtains a divorce and marries another is an adulterer: "...whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her" (Mark 10:11, Luke 16:18), which applies to women as well--Mark 10:12. In essence, according to Christ's teachings:
•(1) one can never obtain a divorce, except from an adulterous spouse;
•(2) one can never marry a divorced person, and
•(3) one who obtains a divorce and marries another is committing adultery.
One can only guess at the number of Christians who have ignored these maxims.

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Marvin in Denver wrote:

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I don't think anyone ever suggested that Christians do not also behave badly. The difference is, Christians know they are sinful and know they have a responsiblity to do better. Whereas, homosexuals do not.

Reverend Alan wrote:

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"Thus it can be seen that in 1999 there was one divorce for every two marriages in the United States, a "crude" divorce rate of 50%. The Rutgers National Marriage Project ( marriage.rutgers.edu ) bases their review of divorce trends on the number of marriages per 1000 unmarried women 15 years of age or older, and the number of divorces per 1000 married women in the same age bracket."
A true follower of Jesus can neither divorce someone,
(a) "So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man put asunder"(Matt. 19:6, Mark 10:9), nor marry someone who is divorced,
(b) "whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery" (Matt. 5:32, 19:9, Luke 16:18). There is an exception to the former, however. If the spouse commits adultery, divorce is permissible: "Whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery" (Matt. 5:32). The Bible also says that anyone who obtains a divorce and marries another is an adulterer: "...whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her" (Mark 10:11, Luke 16:18), which applies to women as well--Mark 10:12. In essence, according to Christ's teachings:
•(1) one can never obtain a divorce, except from an adulterous spouse;
•(2) one can never marry a divorced person, and
•(3) one who obtains a divorce and marries another is committing adultery.
One can only guess at the number of Christians who have ignored these maxims.

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Pietro Armando wrote:

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That logic applies to all sorts of situtations. If one man, and two women wished to be married, the feds, has the responsibility to do so.

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Marvin in Denver wrote:

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I would say NO sincere Christians have IGNORED those Biblical principles. Of course, we LIVE in a culture that pits women against men, child against parents, and seemingly put great effort into destroying the traditional family.
Since Christians live in this societal cess pool along with everyone else, they are not exempt from the effects of its pathologies - divorce being one of them.
But when the sincere Christian falls short of Christ's standard of behavior, which the Bible says we ALL have done, the Christian goes before the Lord and ask for forgiveness - and try to do better next time.

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Marvin in Denver wrote:

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I don't think anyone ever suggested that Christians do not also behave badly. The difference is, Christians know they are sinful and know they have a responsiblity to do better. Whereas, homosexuals do not.

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Marvin in Denver wrote:

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I was taught that this (Rome's decline) occurred largely because of their appetite to pursue pleasure and the total disregard of wholesome traditions (like America).

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Reverend Alan wrote:

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Gee did you get ignored in the men's room again, that sure puts you in a bad negative sour mood. It could be true that only 4% of the population is exclusively homosexual but who cares! It seems that close to 90% of the population enjoys gay sex even if just for one time.
From having watched the Jerry Springer show I can assure you that the only difference between gay men and straight men is 3 beers.
And the only reason gay people have to organize is because Christians behave badly. If Christians would return to their churches and make their rules for themselves only, and leave normal people alone American could continue to be the great country it used to be before religion ruined it.

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Blair wrote:

His 5% is more lies, 61% of all Aids cases were homosexuals as of August 2011. Heterosexuals contracted the disease from blood banks and in direct contact with homosexuals.Even Gays themselves admit it is the Gay Disease.
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California Homosexual Organization Admits HIV/AIDS is “Gay Disease”
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LOS ANGELES, California, The Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center has abandoned a long-held homosexual activist contention by declaring on billboards posted throughout Southern California that HIV/AIDS is a “gay disease.”
According to a report by the Los Angeles Times, the Center is trying to address rapidly increasing HIV infection rates among the homosexual population by rallying the gay community to increasing vigilance against exposure to the disease. Activists for the homosexual lifestyle have, until this current development, strongly, and sometimes vehemently refused to admit that the disease is predominantly generated among homosexual men.
The ad campaign, which is also running in magazines, is in part a response to the findings of public health officials, who have noted that three out of four cases of HIV infections are found in men who engage in homosexual activity, the United Press International reported.
US health officials reported an alarming eight percent increase in HIV infection rates in one year alone among homosexual and bisexual men. The Center for Disease Control also warned that a survey of 15-29 year old men who engaged in homosexual activity “reported that the proportion of unrecognized HIV infection was as high as 77 %.”
A report by the Public Health Agency, revealed a sharp increase in HIV/AIDS infections, with 51 percent of infections found in men engaging in homosexual activity.
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CDC: Homosexual men account for 61% of new HIV infections but only 2% of population
Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:22 EST
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WASHINGTON, D.C., August 18, 2011 - The U.S. Centers for Disease Control has estimated that practicing homosexual men account for 61% of the new HIV infections in the United States while they only amount to about 2% of the country’s population.
Earlier this month, the CDC released estimates for HIV infections from 2006-2009 showing that new infections remained stable at around 50,000 for each of the four years.
Homosexual men (men who have sex with men) accounted for 29,300 of the estimated 48,100 new infections in 2009, and homosexual men aged 13 to 29 accounted for 27% of the new cases.
The only group in which new HIV infections is increasing, they say, is young homosexual men – driven by an alarming increase in infections from African Americans. They estimated that the new infections among young black homosexual men increased 48 percent in the period of 2006-2009 (from 4,400 HIV infections in 2006 to 6,500 infections in 2009).
The study also revealed that almost 20% of homosexual men have HIV, while nearly half of those who do are unaware of it.
www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-M...
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Imprtnrd wrote:

Judge Roy Bean and Blair need to get a room! Then you can diddle with each other there! ROTFL@U 2

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Reverend Alan wrote:

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Oh sure, you allow for a foaming at the mouth pew warming Bible reading Christian to try to do better next time, but should a homosexual make a mistake they are to be thrown in jail and the key thrown away.
Matthew 29:26, "With God all things are possible"
What you are telling us is that with God sinless perfection is impossible for the average pew warming Christian.
Nice.