Ga. to require drug tests for welfare benefits

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PayThat CEO wrote:

I knew it. No one could answer that question "what are our founding principles?"
Whenever I ask these questions I can never get a straight answer. And that's how I know that whoever posted such nonsense is simply parroting something they heard.

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just another guy wrote:

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Did you stop to think I had not been back to this thread yet? No you didn't get an instant answer so you act like a little baby.
Our main founding principle is liberty. Liberty by having very little intrusive government. By having very low taxes.

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>I consider your Grandfather a good man from what you post I would assume he was involved in the 2nd KKK and they were good people.

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Rambeaux wrote:

<quoted text>This was in the early 1960s about the time of the Fredom Riders, desegregation, Governor Wallace's first term, and Robert Kennedy. Grandpa died about 10 years ago, but he did disavow the Klan before he passed on. His Kleagle was non-violent, but they did enjoy intimidating blacks and jews. I can still remember the cross burnings well. The general "climate" at that time is the main reason I left Alabama and moved north at 18.

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Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>you sound like a True Liberal.

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Nancy the Botox Queen wrote:

<quoted text>"just another guy" says he wants "low" taxes. You called him a liberal.
Nancy Pelosi recently stated that she wants Americans to pay more taxes.(the only person who reported it was Neil Cavuto) So then, in your mind, is Pelosi a conservative?

Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, the Republicans that where involved in the 2nd KKK in the 1920's actually had a good set of ethical and moral values to adhere to which majority did.

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Kermudgeon wrote:

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Yeah, they had some ethical lynch mobs.

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PayThat CEO wrote:

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No problem. You couldn't answer the question anyway, like most conservatives.

NASCAR Ned wrote:

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HeeHaw!! Whutt a grate post bruther!!
We ARE the suppeerior race!!
WooHoo!!
We should sellabrait with a stake dinner!
Wait minute" I have know teeth. Do they have soop'

Nancy the Botox Queen wrote:

<quoted text>"just another guy" says he wants "low" taxes. You called him a liberal.
Nancy Pelosi recently stated that she wants Americans to pay more taxes.(the only person who reported it was Neil Cavuto) So then, in your mind, is Pelosi a conservative?

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just another guy wrote:

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The terms do not mean the same thing as they used to. Now instead of liberal, a person with that ideology is thought of as a libertarian.
Today's liberal, also "progressive", or more accurately socialist believe in high taxes, large intrusive government, and weak defense.

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PayThat CEO wrote:

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You have some fair ideas, I think they would just end up costing more in thel ong run.
*Section 8 housing will be kept up to military standards with regular weekly inspections. Failure to maintain such standards would lead to penalties including up to eviction.(If you want to live as if in a sty or a slum, then buy your own place to live).
<<<Who is going to pay inspectors all across the nation to do these weekly inspections? The tax payer?>>>
<<<Nope, the city inspectors that already have that job are going to do it, along with the social workers that should be checking on anyone that receives government help>>>
*Food stamps would be limited to the purchase of breads, milk, cheese, vegetables & fruit and beans.(Want to eat candy and steak? Then buy them with your own money).
<<<Food stamps only cover the items you mentioned, along with meat. We should be teaching people how to eat healthy and spend less money. I do it all the time and I'm not on food stamps.>>>
*Draw a $400 month welfare check? Then you will perform that amount of labor at minimum wage based on your abilities.
<<<Absolutely agree. Community service should be required>>>>
*All recipients would be tested for drugs, alcohol and tobacco.
Again, is the taxpayer going to be footing the bill for all these tests, personnel and testing centers?
*Get caught dancing, working on roofs or other forms of labor while being "paid under the table" while drawing welfare? Then all welfare benefits ever received by that person would be reimbursed with a 10% penalty and the highest interest rate permitted by law. Can't pay it back? Then prison is the next option.(I'd rather pay to have such thieves in prison than I would to pay for them to steal off of the 365 million American citizens.)
<<<The cost of debtor's prison would be far more than you can imagine, especially when millions of children will have to be placed in foster care at tax payer expense.>>>
*All non-mentally retarded recipients will be required to obtain a GED and/or trade schooling within the first year of drawing welfare benefits. While there are many free and low cost programs for these services available, the recipient will be responsible to obtain it.
<<<I like this idea. We should have more affordable education in America though>>>
*There will be no increase of benefits if and when another child is born into the home. The father's name must be provided, and he will be required to pay support. Don't know who the father is? Then you will be required to pay for all paternal tests until he is located.(There is a price to pay for whorish behaviors, and the cost will no longer be paid by the tax payers.)
<<<I agree with this also. Too many men are not being forced to step up and take on their responsibilities>>>
*Not a Natural born citizen (someone born in the U.S.)? Then you will not receive welfare.
<<<It is not illegal citizens getting welfare, it is their American born babies who qualify. You will have to make changes to the immigration laws that give citizenship to anyone born here>>>

Itoldyouso wrote:

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Sorry, I have to disagree with the statement that food stamps only purchase certain items. They used to be that way and were actual stamps. Now, they are an EBT card and it gets swiped just like any debit card and it doesn't know what was purchased so food stamps now buy all kinds of trash. I have seen them used in liquor stores, laundremats, beauty shops,tatoo parlors, etc. They can not differenate what is purchased so there ar no longer any controls. I still think we should go back to the old fashioned food Stamps. They required a person to match the stamp with the item to be purchased and required ID to use. No more selling or lending your EBT card to someone else. No more cigarettes instead of food for the kids. No more koolaid and soda instead of milk and cereal.
Other then that, I agree with every thing you said.

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Pamela wrote:

<quoted text>that's not true. People can only buy food with food stamps. the people you see using the EBT cards must also get GA cash. Those cards have several accounts on them. They contain a GA cash account they can use to buy cigs and booze, they have the food stamp part of it, and I would not be surprised if they have a WIC part attached to the card too. I think WIC is like milk and formula for babies. It's a separate program too. But they're not buying anything other than food with the food stamps. But, what the government does do now is they can go and buy McDonalds and Taco Bell. I heard that somewhere. I think they can go to fast food places with the EBT card now. I'll do a search for that and see if it's true.

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Left CA to Libs_Illegals wrote:

<quoted text>Why don't we make it easier for the welfare leeches and allow them to be able to order Pizza and have it delivered so they won't have to miss watching any Jerry Springer or the OWN.
In CA., just to name a few things, the State has allowed the welfare leeches and illegals to use their EBT cards for things such as: Lotto tickets, to pay a bail bond, gambling in Tahoe, Vegas, and for gambling on Indian Reservations, and even for Hawaii vacations. No wonder CA. has 33% of all welfare leeches in the entire U.S.
The democrats that run CA. sure know how to keep the donkey herd happy so they'll always vote democrat.

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Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>oh, I dont blame you moving then during that time but I can understand why your grandfather disavowed the Klan, but its interesting to here you tell especially from someone that actually experienced it and seen the events with their own eyes. You could relate to William C. Wilkinson, Jr. who wrote an article in INDIANA MAGAZINE OF HISTORY about his experince as a youth growing up in Indiana on events that took place in Indiana with the 2nd KKK that he seen happen with his own eyes.