'Joe the Plumber' links deaths of Jews in Nazi Germany, gun control, in Ohio campaign video

Jun 20, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Washington Post

9 in Washington. TOLEDO, Ohio - The Ohio congressional candidate known as "Joe the Plumber" is running a campaign video in which he suggests that Nazi gun controls contributed to deaths during the Holocaust because Jews didn't have firearms to defend themselves.

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Just wait and see, the vast majority of Jewish Americans are not JINO's and actually realize his statements have merit.

HOWEVER many so-called Jewish politicians seem to want another holocaust to happen because they are the ones constantly pushing for gun control (Chuck Schumer, Feinstein, etc)

Jewish Americans are waking up to this undercurrent, and realizing that the holocaust could have indeed been prevented! Just look at the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, and how a mere handful of armed Jews held of the mighty German Gestapo for several days! Imagine if there had been millions of armed Jews! http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm
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What Do Ya Call A Dog Who Eats His Own Vomit??..BILL MAHAR,or any other loon on TOPIX!!
What Do You Call A Guy Who Eats his Dog ??? PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA!
What do you call a guy/gal who posts incoherent drivel??CHECK SIX!! Take your meds!
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their votes for obama amounts to ...
.... winning the last election and winning the next election.
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Hey, why doesn't RMoney choose Joe the Plumber as his vp - or would THAT be too Palinesque!
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Cubana de Aviación Flight 455 was a Cuban flight from Barbados to Jamaica that was brought down by a terrorist attack on October 6, 1976. All 78 people on board the Douglas DC-8 aircraft were killed in what was then the deadliest terrorist airline attack in the Western Hemisphere. Two time bombs were used, variously described as dynamite or C-4.

Evidence implicated several CIA-linked anti-Castro Cuban exiles and members of the Venezuelan secret police DISIP. Political complications quickly arose when Cuba accused the US government of being an accomplice to the attack. CIA documents released in 2005 indicate that the agency "had concrete advance intelligence, as early as June 1976, on plans by Cuban exile terrorist groups to bomb a Cubana airliner." Former CIA operative Posada Carriles denies involvement but provides many details of the incident in his book "Caminos del Guerrero" (Way of the Warrior).[1][2]

Four men were arrested in connection with the bombing and a trial was held in Venezuela: Freddy Lugo and Hernán Ricardo Lozano were sentenced to 20-year prison terms; Orlando Bosch was acquitted because of technical defects in the prosecution evidence, and lived in Miami, Florida until he died on the 27th of April, 2011; and Luis Posada Carriles was held for eight years while awaiting a final sentence, but eventually fled. He later entered the United States, where he was held on charges of entering the country illegally but released on April 19, 2007.Document Linked to Posada Highlighted Targets for Terrorism
Ricardo and another Venezuelan, Freddy Lugo, were subsequently tried and ...
In July 17, 1990, he was freed by the administration of George H.W. Bush, over ...

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'Joe the Plumber' links deaths of Jews in Nazi Germany, gun control, in Ohio
and he certainly would be right
Obama and the lib nazi's Do not want anyone in America to have the right of self protection.
and they also believe in killing babies!!!!!!!!
Just republican babies. Too bad Joe the Dumber's momma went through with her pregnancy. He really seems like great abortion material.

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Just wait and see, the vast majority of Jewish Americans are not JINO's and actually realize his statements have merit.
HOWEVER many so-called Jewish politicians seem to want another holocaust to happen because they are the ones constantly pushing for gun control (Chuck Schumer, Feinstein, etc)
Jewish Americans are waking up to this undercurrent, and realizing that the holocaust could have indeed been prevented! Just look at the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, and how a mere handful of armed Jews held of the mighty German Gestapo for several days! Imagine if there had been millions of armed Jews! http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm
Some idiot in Texas just killed 3 people in a strip club yesterday.

"SHOOTING RAMPAGES....coming to a town near you...and soon"!

That gun you think will give you eternal life, yeah, good luck with that. Even the well armed Nazi's eventually died. lmao

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Toward the Jewish population in Germany and then "Gravediggers"
These groups are so rarely mentioned when it comes to the holocaust: gypsy, homosexuals, and Jehovah Witnesses.

I tried to keep it short. Most people recognize the Holocaust as an official policy of genocide directed toward the Jewish population of Germany and then extended to countries under Nazi control. You are correct in your additions to my comment. In order to achieve the mythical Aryan ideal, those who were physically or mentally handicapped were also eliminated when possible. This was the unconscionable application of eugenics. It was carried a step further by the arranged mating of young German males, usually military officers, and young women who met the Aryan criteria. Most of the resultant children were adopted after the war and few have been able to determine their biological parentage. They too are victims of a government with iron control oppressing a defenseless population.

The Nazis maintained control through fear and violence. More than a half century later we need to be aware that a paternalistic state is more subtle but can achieve the same ends. Allowing government to legislate in matters of personal choice and to intrude upon one's privacy is an insidious form of control. It starts with little things but can expand quickly to be all- encompassing. Tyranny can come in many forms.
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There is nothing new about this. History has shown us that the most oppressive governments succeed when weapons are kept out of the hands of potential rebels. Although the Jews were Hitler's target, his policy was to dispose of dissenters as well as others who did not fit his Aryan ideal. Without the means to protect themselves, Jews and other "undesirables" were defenseless.
If we study Irish history, we will see that beginning with Henry VIII's declaring himself King of Ireland, there were rebellions and suppressions in every century. In order to earn recognition as a Free State in the British Commonwealth of Nations, the Irish robbed military and constabulary outlets and solicited money and weaponry, largely from sympathetic Irish Americans. Every other rebellion failed, largely because of the lack of weaponry, although poor organization and duplicitous leadership also played a role.
The American Revolution would never have gotten off the ground if most of the participants did not possess firearms and were unaccustomed to using them. To suggest that any group would submissively accept slaughter if it had alternatives is ludicrous.
There was a time when I didn't believe this to be true, until this administration. Now that I see what happens when a power monger steps on our Constitution and freedoms we once took for granted....with so little opposition.....I realize now why gun advocates have been concerned. A centralized power is never good for a free people. obama has been pushing through his socialistic programs and expanding govt. power. Liberal dogma is worked into our lives at work, school, home and even when we are mobile. The young have been brainwashed into the liberal media's propaganda. This country has been gradually shifting so no one really notices the erosion. It's amazing how far this country has come towards socialism and communism...and yet nearly half the country favors obama! If that doesn't say something about how easily a country can be converted to socialism and communism, I don't know what more to say.

If you don't have the firepower to overcome a corrupt govt., you're not going to win. That's why our country has come to the aid of people who are imprisoned in their countries because they lack the ability to fight back. Their govt. holds the weapons. Conservatives believe in decentralized govt. They don't believe in a centralized power because corruption is human and the risk is higher when there is centralized power.

Anyone with half a brain would know if the Jews had access to guns, more would have survived. Because the Nazis imposed gun control tactics, citizens were easily led off to the slaughter. It's amazing to me so many people have fallen victim to the bs the liberals have been feeding them. I, for one was once one of them.
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<quoted text>Some idiot in Texas just killed 3 people in a strip club yesterday.
"SHOOTING RAMPAGES....coming to a town near you...and soon"!
That gun you think will give you eternal life, yeah, good luck with that. Even the well armed Nazi's eventually died. lmao
Of course the media is going to try to promote reasons why guns are 'bad'. Have they ever run a story about how many lives have been saved because someone used their gun against someone who was trying to kill them? Of course not. When you have corruption in our own govt via Fast and Furious Holder and his accomplice, odumma.....you should soon realize how important it is to maintain our constitutional right to bear arms. The NRA should have free gun safety classes. Free target practice so people will not be so afraid and vulnerable to liberal propaganda. Educate the people so they should not be afraid to bear arms. Never dreamed I would ever say this because there was a time when I was very much opposed to guns. I still hate hunting as a sport but I appreciate the reasons behind the right to bear arms now.
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<quoted text>Just hide your wife down in your bomb shelter. The scary black man won't find her down there. WOOF!!!!!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ya MINDLESS TWIT!...Meeting my wife ,a Red Headed , Celtic women ,can be ya worst night mare...When she walks ,its no butterfly across the room,,its more like a storm trooper...plus the fact like a huge majority of women are buying guns.today,they are ..no longer the Gentile Sex..If any BLACK,WHITE,PURPLE,BROWN,YELLO W PERSON,MAN or WOMEN.Threatened her!.Why she with her 357 MAG blow thru them a new ASS HOLE..Speaking of ASS HOLES,I bet Yer Cute!With Yer FAT ASS!. You Problely are wishing for an attack from a black man...Hey the Worst that can happen to you may be the best in yer MISERABLENESS BORING EXISTENCE....LOOK in the MIRROR! See It ??ITS A FAT ASS UGLY STINKING OLD BITCH,,,DARLING!!TIC TAC TOE!...
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The serous part of that statement...That what if the now 6 million dead Jews murdered by Nazis,and Russians had protection?..One has to think of our
MINUTE MEN,who were able to defend the British ,The NAZIS of that day....Were they not Armed ,this would not be AMERICA!

The answer of course rests with the Jewish people of that time....Ask any Ghetto survivor ,if any left..I would think one would give their life's defending their families.

After the WAR ,The new nation ISRAEL, declared .."NEVER AGAIN"..and armed themselves to deter and prevent an other HOLOCAUST...In fact they use arms to deter and prevent harm and attacks on them.

Today MUSLIMS are vowing to destroy the Jews...Does any one think JEWS topday are not armed?

NEVER AGAIN will they be disarmed.and led to slaughter like sheep,unarmed.

In America we have our 2nd Amendment...those who want to disarm America want to do away with Our GUNS and BIBLES....The JEWS had their BIBLES for their faith,Just think if they had Guns for their lives
Today the SYRIAN people are being Murdered..What if they could defend themselves???..With GUNS they could effect change,instead of being Slaughtered..

JOE the Plumber now the object of RIDICULE by LOONS LEFT WING NUTS,SOCIALISTS,and COMMUNISTS..would have AMERICAN ready for the big RAPE JOB they plan....IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

This JOE is more representative of the Majority of Americans than the AMERICAN HATING LOONS.

"FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS"

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Not to worry, she's in the living room, has a .45 on the end table near her. Scary black man won't go near the house.
Oh, no look into her history! She LIKES black men, LIKES them. When she was a newscaster, she had a big hot romance,(f*cking) with a black basketball player! He says it happened, she rolls her eyes. Whom do YOU believe?

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The serous part of that statement...That what if the now 6 million dead Jews murdered by Nazis,and Russians had protection?..One has to think of our
MINUTE MEN,who were able to defend the British ,The NAZIS of that day....Were they not Armed ,this would not be AMERICA!
The answer of course rests with the Jewish people of that time....Ask any Ghetto survivor ,if any left..I would think one would give their life's defending their families.
After the WAR ,The new nation ISRAEL, declared .."NEVER AGAIN"..and armed themselves to deter and prevent an other HOLOCAUST...In fact they use arms to deter and prevent harm and attacks on them.
Today MUSLIMS are vowing to destroy the Jews...Does any one think JEWS topday are not armed?
NEVER AGAIN will they be disarmed.and led to slaughter like sheep,unarmed.
In America we have our 2nd Amendment...those who want to disarm America want to do away with Our GUNS and BIBLES....The JEWS had their BIBLES for their faith,Just think if they had Guns for their lives
Today the SYRIAN people are being Murdered..What if they could defend themselves???..With GUNS they could effect change,instead of being Slaughtered..
JOE the Plumber now the object of RIDICULE by LOONS LEFT WING NUTS,SOCIALISTS,and COMMUNISTS..would have AMERICAN ready for the big RAPE JOB they plan....IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
This JOE is more representative of the Majority of Americans than the AMERICAN HATING LOONS.
"FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS"
It's a good theory. But, if an entire police force showed up at your house, would you be able to shoot 10 or 12 SWAT officers? you'd be mowed down like wheat.

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What Do Ya Call A Dog Who Eats His Own Vomit??..BILL MAHAR,or any other loon on TOPIX!!
What Do You Call A Guy Who Eats his Dog ??? PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSIEN OBAMA!
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<quoted text>It's a good theory. But, if an entire police force showed up at your house, would you be able to shoot 10 or 12 SWAT officers? you'd be mowed down like wheat.
Your rationale is bizarre. Why would you want to give up your freedom to a centralized power? If you would read your history books, you'd oppose it. Centralized power is not in the best interest for a free society. Checks and balances are a necessity.
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The holocaust happened because of ignorance, misplaced trust and complacency.

Ignorance of their situation, misplaced trust in their leaders to protect the people, and complacency by assuming they were safe in their own home and country. I can understand the complacency because who would have ever thought people could be sick and twisted enough to murder people by the millions in the gas chambers and furnaces of Auschwitz, Birkenau, Belzec, and a hundred or so more.

The Jews in Europe suffered from the same thing we suffer from today, a sydrome that all generations suffer from to some degree. The syndrome goes by many names, in some places it's called "That could never happen here", in others it's known as "That could never happen to us".

But it could. Very easily in fact.

Hindsight is 20/20, the Jews of the holocaust didn't have the luxury of hindsight. But we do and guess what? We might be going done that road.

We already have a president who is trying to destroy the people's right to bear arms by treasonous acts.

Who has ignored congress and passed laws by edict rather than by law on more than one occasion (see Hitler's "Enabling Act" of 1933)

Who has Czars that operate above the law

Who controls the MSM through propaganda literally changing what people say.

Who is creating "work camps" in various states, supposedly to house illegal immigrants, yet just passed amnesty for illegals. Who are they really for?

Who has a "hit list" of those who don't agree with the agenda of "The New World Order", also one of Hitler's agendas also. Look at the Reichstag Memorial, 96 slate plates of those members of parliament that didn't agree with the National Socialist Party and were "eliminated" when Hitler took power in 1933. We know them as Nazi's, and guess what? Our president is a socialist and so are the liberals that follow him.

Who stated we should all have to do "community service" for the "good of the country", Hitler also forced people to do "community service for the good of Germany", that's how the Autobahn got built. It didn't end well for the Jews.

Who was a great orator, and could sway the people into just about anything even to the point of school children chanting his praises in song. Hitler had this same "effect" on people.

Who created "youth camps" to "educate" young people into his way of thinking. In WWII we called them the Hitler Youth, now we call the Obama Youth (google Obama youth camp).

I could literally go on and on, similarity after glaring similarity, but I hope you get the point.

We still suffer from this syndrome, ask anyone.

And the next time liberals compare us to "nazi's", refer them to history. But they probably still won't get it.

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Unusually offensive, dishonest, and vicious even for an extremist Republican. Certainly Joe is desperate, since no one gives him a chance of winning his race, but that's no excuse for resorting to this kind of tactic.

Apparently for some, Ohio's liberal (yes, oddly enough they are!) gun laws, including concealed carry, just aren't enough. They have to continue using scare tactics to try to get attention.

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The holocaust happened because of ignorance, misplaced trust and complacency.
Ignorance of their situation, misplaced trust in their leaders to protect the people, and complacency by assuming they were safe in their own home and country. I can understand the complacency because who would have ever thought people could be sick and twisted enough to murder people by the millions in the gas chambers and furnaces of Auschwitz, Birkenau, Belzec, and a hundred or so more.
The Jews in Europe suffered from the same thing we suffer from today, a sydrome that all generations suffer from to some degree. The syndrome goes by many names, in some places it's called "That could never happen here", in others it's known as "That could never happen to us".
But it could. Very easily in fact.
Hindsight is 20/20, the Jews of the holocaust didn't have the luxury of hindsight. But we do and guess what? We might be going done that road.
We already have a president who is trying to destroy the people's right to bear arms by treasonous acts.
Who has ignored congress and passed laws by edict rather than by law on more than one occasion (see Hitler's "Enabling Act" of 1933)
Who has Czars that operate above the law
Who controls the MSM through propaganda literally changing what people say.
Who is creating "work camps" in various states, supposedly to house illegal immigrants, yet just passed amnesty for illegals. Who are they really for?
Who has a "hit list" of those who don't agree with the agenda of "The New World Order", also one of Hitler's agendas also. Look at the Reichstag Memorial, 96 slate plates of those members of parliament that didn't agree with the National Socialist Party and were "eliminated" when Hitler took power in 1933. We know them as Nazi's, and guess what? Our president is a socialist and so are the liberals that follow him.
Who stated we should all have to do "community service" for the "good of the country", Hitler also forced people to do "community service for the good of Germany", that's how the Autobahn got built. It didn't end well for the Jews.
Who was a great orator, and could sway the people into just about anything even to the point of school children chanting his praises in song. Hitler had this same "effect" on people.
Who created "youth camps" to "educate" young people into his way of thinking. In WWII we called them the Hitler Youth, now we call the Obama Youth (google Obama youth camp).
I could literally go on and on, similarity after glaring similarity, but I hope you get the point.
We still suffer from this syndrome, ask anyone.
And the next time liberals compare us to "nazi's", refer them to history. But they probably still won't get it.
Are you Joe's publicity agent, or merely another paranoid, insane character seeking attention for your extremist views?

I'm sure you could go "on and on," but first you ought to find out the truth. And virtually none of your claims are true.
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[..“In 1939, Germany established gun control,” he says.“From 1939 to 1945, six million Jews and seven million others, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated,”..]

Well, the man has a point.

The vast majority of gun related deaths in the 20th century were not the result of private citizens shooting each other, but rather armed government troops or operatives shooting unarmed civilians.

I postulate that: If Native Americans had guns, the Aztecs and Incas would still be around.

If Africans had guns, there would not have been a Trans-Atlantic slave trade.

Also, no group can claim ownership or a monopoly on any part of history. If a gun control opponent or politician (Jew or otherwise) in 2012 wants to reference some event back in WW2 a make a point, then that's his perogative.

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