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Rep. Ryan says US safety net has become 'hammock'

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The U.S. House of Representatives chief budget-writer has told the Texas Republican Convention that America's safety net has become a "hammock" that breeds apathy and complacency.

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Romney's Bain Of Existence: Reaganomics Redux

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No more "trickle down economics". We've already seen it in action. It doesn't work. You really don't want hungry people on the loose. They don't behave in a particularly polite manner. Besides, how can we run around the world unseating dictators who abuse their people if our own are hungry because there aren't enough jobs and the safety net has been yanked? Under Reaganomics, jobs were created in other countriesm and that's where the investments were made - foreign lands. Nope. It doesn't work, and that's all that Romney has offered up as an alternative to Obama. Too bad. I don't think we're interested in a further decline for working class Americans and even more increased concentrated wealth for the already privileged.
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This country was built by people who worked hard, and made good lives for themselves, and their children. Now we have people having children, because society will give them free money, housing, TVs, they buy cars, have cell phones, all without ever working a day in their worthless lives. At what point do those who work, and pay taxes so these layabouts can have their leisure, and put them to work against their will? We aren't doing them any favors. They have nothing to be proud of.
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He is spot on, our society has gone so far that it will be very hard to get it back on track. Cutting welfare down and making people actually work for a living is a good start. With our population growing so fast, with the most worthless segments growing the fastest, we have lost a system in which the most productive survive. Why does social Darwinism get a bad reputation? It works.

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This country was built by people who worked hard, and made good lives for themselves, and their children. Now we have people having children, because society will give them free money, housing, TVs, they buy cars, have cell phones, all without ever working a day in their worthless lives. At what point do those who work, and pay taxes so these layabouts can have their leisure, and put them to work against their will? We aren't doing them any favors. They have nothing to be proud of.
Ask yourself why we have policies in place that ENCOURAGE people who cannot provide for their children to have children. Why do you suppose government has set up this situation in the first place?

Everybody needs to take a look at what government has decided is the path America will take in the future. We will do whatever we can to rapidly increase the population, take down living standards and prepare to compete head on with China and India. Our population: nearing 314,000,000. The population of India: 1.21 Billion, and China: 1.33 Billion. Can you see why we're doing what we're doing? We have rapidly increased the cost of a college education to make smart people pause and consider whether the payoff is worth the debt and encouraged pursuit of technical training. Wages have already declined enough for companies to see the viability of manufacturing onshore again, while concurrently looking for the next cheap labor and unregulated environment where they can replace their China/Mexico production facilities. It will ebb and flow depending on how rapid is the descent of living standard in America.

We can never preserve our environment and natural resources by placing such an unsustainable burden on America, but that hasn't stopped the predator capitalists from milking everything they can get out of this society and ignoring the harm. It's a very short sighted approach upon which we've set sail.

Nobody asked the American people if they would prefer another option. Our future has been predetermined by plutocratic rule of the elite who make the decisions for us and keep us as ignorant as possible while they proceed on course.

In reality, the American people don't have representation by either of the two parties, and we haven't had for a very long time. For awhile, they fed us credit and toys and distractions while they robbed us blind. Our bad. Now, they hold the middle class hostage with our 401-Ks and retirement plans. We can hardly speak out against these policies, because it's the only security we have left - the market. So, we are compelled to hate the poor and focus our attention there instead of looking at how very much of whatever we have ever accumulated or inherited has been transferred away from us and to the top of the food chain. The government spends 3X as much in corporate welfare as in social welfare. The social welfare is just to make sure they're producing those bodies at replacement levels and then some. The lords and ladies need more serfs.

Our tax dollars don't go to educate our children so they can think and innovate or invent. They go to feather the nests of already wealthy and powerful people who manipulate and control us. If they need some brains? They'll import them from other countries and make sure that they earn enough that it's better here than from whence they came, and since these newcomers don't know the difference in America now and America then, they're unlikely to ever be much of a problem to the people they serve.
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NTRPRNR1 wrote:
<quoted text>Mitt
Romney's Bain Of Existence: Reaganomics Redux
By Eric L. Wattree
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http://blackstarnews.com/news/135/ARTICLE/823...
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No more "trickle down economics". We've already seen it in action. It doesn't work. You really don't want hungry people on the loose. They don't behave in a particularly polite manner. Besides, how can we run around the world unseating dictators who abuse their people if our own are hungry because there aren't enough jobs and the safety net has been yanked? Under Reaganomics, jobs were created in other countriesm and that's where the investments were made - foreign lands. Nope. It doesn't work, and that's all that Romney has offered up as an alternative to Obama. Too bad. I don't think we're interested in a further decline for working class Americans and even more increased concentrated wealth for the already privileged.
Spoken like a true liberal, and as usual pointing the finger at Republicans for not 'offering' an alternative to Obama. If you support Obama, he doesn't need an alternative, but if Obama's stuff ain't working, and it's not, the Republicans have been offering an alternative for three and a half years-DEFEAT OBAMA IN NOVEMBER!

Now if that doesn't work for ya, then YOU come up with some alternatives, other than just 'cheap shot' lip service.
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Richard Guerra wrote:
House Budget Committee Chairman and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan said Saturday in Fort Worth that President Barack Obama wants to build a government-centered society instead of 1 based on God and nature.
Looks like Rep. Ryan Paul is up to the famous CONservative ideology of LYING and being one hell of a hypocrite.
He says the US government should be centered on God and Nature but on the other hand he want to cut food stamps to our nations most needy people.
Who in the fk does this clown thing he's tying to bullshit?
Define "our nation's most needy people?" Because right now, those needy people you are talking about have come to my country illegally, are taking jobs from my neighbors, ruining my communities education system, and committing 60% percent of the crimes in my city.

Why the hell do I have to feed them too?
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This country was built by people who worked hard, and made good lives for themselves, and their children. Now we have people having children, because society will give them free money, housing, TVs, they buy cars, have cell phones, all without ever working a day in their worthless lives. At what point do those who work, and pay taxes so these layabouts can have their leisure, and put them to work against their will? We aren't doing them any favors. They have nothing to be proud of.
Now this is a 'great article'!
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<quoted text>Ask yourself why we have policies in place that ENCOURAGE people who cannot provide for their children to have children. Why do you suppose government has set up this situation in the first place?
Everybody needs to take a look at what government has decided is the path America will take in the future. We will do whatever we can to rapidly increase the population, take down living standards and prepare to compete head on with China and India. Our population: nearing 314,000,000. The population of India: 1.21 Billion, and China: 1.33 Billion. Can you see why we're doing what we're doing? We have rapidly increased the cost of a college education to make smart people pause and consider whether the payoff is worth the debt and encouraged pursuit of technical training. Wages have already declined enough for companies to see the viability of manufacturing onshore again, while concurrently looking for the next cheap labor and unregulated environment where they can replace their China/Mexico production facilities. It will ebb and flow depending on how rapid is the descent of living standard in America.
We can never preserve our environment and natural resources by placing such an unsustainable burden on America, but that hasn't stopped the predator capitalists from milking everything they can get out of this society and ignoring the harm. It's a very short sighted approach upon which we've set sail.
Nobody asked the American people if they would prefer another option. Our future has been predetermined by plutocratic rule of the elite who make the decisions for us and keep us as ignorant as possible while they proceed on course.
In reality, the American people don't have representation by either of the two parties, and we haven't had for a very long time. For awhile, they fed us credit and toys and distractions while they robbed us blind. Our bad. Now, they hold the middle class hostage with our 401-Ks and retirement plans. We can hardly speak out against these policies, because it's the only security we have left - the market. So, we are compelled to hate the poor and focus our attention there instead of looking at how very much of whatever we have ever accumulated or inherited has been transferred away from us and to the top of the food chain. The government spends 3X as much in corporate welfare as in social welfare. The social welfare is just to make sure they're producing those bodies at replacement levels and then some. The lords and ladies need more serfs.
Our tax dollars don't go to educate our children so they can think and innovate or invent. They go to feather the nests of already wealthy and powerful people who manipulate and control us. If they need some brains? They'll import them from other countries and make sure that they earn enough that it's better here than from whence they came, and since these newcomers don't know the difference in America now and America then, they're unlikely to ever be much of a problem to the people they serve.
Ok! I asked myself why these policies? My answer to you is take a real hard look at the 45 goals to take over America as written by the Communist Party, and placed into the Congressional Record in 1963. And if you can't find them, I'll be glad to post them right here for ya.
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I hope Romney names someone like Ryan as his Vice President.
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A person cannot receive welfare unless they're a US Citizen. If you want to break it down by race, more whites in raw numbers use welfare services in the USA. If you take welfare away, you'll hurt more whites than those pesky fking illegals that you hate so much.
Now the fastest growing group of people that are jumping on board the welfare gravy train are the illegals who drop an anchor but those anchors are still a US Citizen and unfortunately they're Hispanics.
Cutting welfare at a time where you have a large portion of the US population relying on this benefit due to a sluggish economy simply to feel like you're making a difference against the illegals is insane because the only person you'll really hurt are Americans as only American are eligible to receive those benefits in the first place.
Look, I get the enforcement by attrition thing and I also agree that shit needs to be done about this bottomless pit of illegals coming here and using their kids as a Las Vegas casino jackpot but setting them aside for a moment, if you get rid of welfare or cut it, you're only going to hurt more American people than illegals and their US children.
Can't get welfare unless a citizen, huh? Well, you come tell my next door neighbor that.

And where do you get I hate illegals?

Fact: 1800 world population 1 billion.
1932 world population 2 billion.(132 year gap).
2012 world population 7 billion.( 90 year gap).
Where are we going to get the necessary resources to feed, house, and educate 17 billion people in 45 years? The world's support system is not failing because I hate illegals. It's failing because the world has too many 'illegals' and too many 'government cloned parasites', but no more RESOURCES to keep the big lie propped up. And the big lie is "America is the land of plenty."

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Ok! I asked myself why these policies? My answer to you is take a real hard look at the 45 goals to take over America as written by the Communist Party, and placed into the Congressional Record in 1963. And if you can't find them, I'll be glad to post them right here for ya.
In addition to being a BIRTHER NUTJOB, now you're a conspiracy NUTJOB.

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Can't get welfare unless a citizen, huh? Well, you come tell my next door neighbor that.
And where do you get I hate illegals?
Fact: 1800 world population 1 billion.
1932 world population 2 billion.(132 year gap).
2012 world population 7 billion.( 90 year gap).
Where are we going to get the necessary resources to feed, house, and educate 17 billion people in 45 years? The world's support system is not failing because I hate illegals. It's failing because the world has too many 'illegals' and too many 'government cloned parasites', but no more RESOURCES to keep the big lie propped up. And the big lie is "America is the land of plenty."
Fine, then why don't you tell us why the teabag Repubs are against birth control and being pro choice?
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Yes your illegal aliens get welfare. The first thing they do is go apply for all the freebies. Sometimes the stop getting it if they get a job, and sometime they don't. You don't live near a city do you? Our illegals know all the angles, food stamps, rent subsidities, healthcare, cell phones. They get everything. Think about that Monday when you are getting ready to go to work to pay taxes to a government that spreads the wealth.
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<quoted text>In addition to being a BIRTHER NUTJOB, now you're a conspiracy NUTJOB.
The Congressional record is not a work in conspiracy. And until all those questions are answered about Obama's qualifications, and since I have elected not to vote for him, and like all the little Obama lapdogs like David Axlerod, who can't be believed if his tongue came notarized, I will keep asking for the truth until Obama and his minions relent, and tell the truth.

And what are you so afraid of?
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<quoted text>Fine, then why don't you tell us why the teabag Repubs are against birth control and being pro choice?
Since I am not a "teabagger Repub" I don't know. You might want to read some of my post where I have stated I vote for a candidate as an independent/conservative, I vote for the person who will do the job, and I don't vote for idiots who lie or wave political labels in my face.

I am against abortion, has nothing to do with my politics, it's a personal conviction. I favor birth control-I'm not Catholic.

I am a Constitution supporter, not a libertarian, and certainly not a Communist or Socialist. As you pro-choice folks like to say, I'm free to do with my body and my brain as I see fit without your interference, or permission.

Now what?

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Spoken like a true liberal, and as usual pointing the finger at Republicans for not 'offering' an alternative to Obama. If you support Obama, he doesn't need an alternative, but if Obama's stuff ain't working, and it's not, the Republicans have been offering an alternative for three and a half years-DEFEAT OBAMA IN NOVEMBER!
Now if that doesn't work for ya, then YOU come up with some alternatives, other than just 'cheap shot' lip service.
I'm only a social liberal. I'm a fiscal conservative. I'm not into the spending program from any direction, but if we're going to collect taxes, I'd like to see there be a better use of them than subsidizing already profitable businesses and corporations - like G.E.. I'd like better public education and fewer defense contractors made wealthier than they already have been. I'd rather see that the next generation has enough to eat to develop their brains than subsidize somebody's corporate jet. I'd rather the government was prepared to assist Americans in the event of a natural disaster than go nation building around the world. I'd rather spend on domestic social welfare programs than foreign aid that just greases palms for the next crony capitalist deal that never does one bit of good for "the people" either here or there. Yes, I am a fiscal conservative whose priorities aren't in using my tax contributions to the detriment of my society and mostly for the edification of the already well-to-do.
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Yes your illegal aliens get welfare. The first thing they do is go apply for all the freebies. Sometimes the stop getting it if they get a job, and sometime they don't. You don't live near a city do you? Our illegals know all the angles, food stamps, rent subsidities, healthcare, cell phones. They get everything. Think about that Monday when you are getting ready to go to work to pay taxes to a government that spreads the wealth.
I live near enough to a city I know what time of the day I want to go grocery shopping-like first in no line A.M.

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Since I am not a "teabagger Repub" I don't know. You might want to read some of my post where I have stated I vote for a candidate as an independent/conservative, I vote for the person who will do the job, and I don't vote for idiots who lie or wave political labels in my face.
I am against abortion, has nothing to do with my politics, it's a personal conviction. I favor birth control-I'm not Catholic.
I am a Constitution supporter, not a libertarian, and certainly not a Communist or Socialist. As you pro-choice folks like to say, I'm free to do with my body and my brain as I see fit without your interference, or permission.
Now what?
Fine you can do what you want with your body. But the candidates you support want to stick a vaginal probe into every woman in the US and overturn Roe V. Wade. Mittens is for both of these. Now what? And just what is an indepenent conservative other than a teabagger with a new name.
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I will vote for the man who will put everyone to work. I am tired of subsidizing the layabouts. Every word out of Obama's mouth is a lie. In 4 years he has done nothing for the middle class. He caters to the poor, and the rich. It is time for a change. Romney can't do any worse then is being done today.

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