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deferstoexperts

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IAmDigitap wrote:
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She knows a tree's not a T.R.E.E.M.O.M.I.T.U.R. you
*STUPID*
internet church tramp.
our double ought spy makes another comment.
deferstoexperts

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tina anne wrote:
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Yes I did. But the bad luck is I also know how to think for myself. Did you notice what those links left out. Somehow I doubt you did.
why don't you tell us tina?
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Billr does not get it! BWHHAHAHAHHAHAaaaaaaa
Patriot AKA Bozo

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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>FYI, this is a global forum.<quoted text>Are you sure?
Not everyone agrees with NOAA:
Life, Death, and Climate
By Thomas Gale Moore, Ph.D.
Stanford University
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/archive/pre...
The Killer Season
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politi...
You need to read through your second link. The first link is from a known RW propaganda site. But I agree that the United States is not the whole world. Just the most important part of it.

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Mothra wrote:
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Agreed & thank you.
The passage I cited was from a larger article, which in it's second paragraph said,
"And central to the newest story is one of the Climategate scientists: Keith Briffa, an expert in reconstructing historical temperature records from tree rings. More particularly, the recent scandal involves a tree-ring record Briffa prepared for a remote area of northern Russia called Yamal."
You would think that at least Briffa's name would be familiar to a 'warmists' wouldn't you? Or that a simple Google, of "Briffa, Yamal" would have answered that question.
At least, one could have scrolled back a page to see if those names were explained.
They were.
The link I read only referred to the names as I stated.
LessHypeMoreFact

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Mothra wrote:
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You would think that at least Briffa's name would be familiar to a 'warmists' wouldn't you?
Who can keep up with all the 'scandals' you and your cohorts 'create' out of nothing?

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives...
"So along comes Steve McIntyre, self-styled slayer of hockey sticks, who declares without any evidence whatsoever that Briffa didn’t just reprocess the data from the Russians, but instead supposedly picked through it to give him the signal he wanted. These allegations have been made without any evidence whatsoever. "

The *scientists* don't agree that there is anything 'scandalous' about the methodology. But don't let facts stand in the way...

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But I agree that the United States is not the whole world. Just the most important part of it.
I'm sure the average patriotic inhabitant of Delhi feels the same about India.
I feel lucky not to have been cursed with patriotism.

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NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, alias:
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I never though I'd see the day, but it looks like you've at last you've learned how to post links and I'm really happy for you, because you can easily produce some evidence that 40 was correctly spelt with a U within the last 200 years, can't you, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?

A link showing CO2 as a "thermal pollutant" would also be nice.
Mothra

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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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Who can keep up with all the 'scandals' you and your cohorts 'create' out of nothing?
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives...
"So along comes Steve McIntyre, self-styled slayer of hockey sticks, who declares without any evidence whatsoever that Briffa didn’t just reprocess the data from the Russians, but instead supposedly picked through it to give him the signal he wanted. These allegations have been made without any evidence whatsoever. "
The *scientists* don't agree that there is anything 'scandalous' about the methodology. But don't let facts stand in the way...
Seriously? A 2009 RC rant?

Try this instead...

"A week ago, the Information Commissioner notified the University of East Anglia that he would be ruling against them on my longstanding FOI request for the list of sites used in the Yamal-Urals regional chronology referred to in a 2006 Climategate email. East Anglia accordingly sent me a list of the 17 sites used in the Yamal-Urals regional chronology (see here). A decision on the chronology itself is pending. In the absence of the chronology itself, I’ve done an RCS calculation, the results of which do not yield a Hockey Stick."

http://climateaudit.org/2012/05/06/yamal-foi-...

There's a link in there to the actual letter from UK ICO.

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Mothra wrote:
Seriously? A 2009 RC rant?
Try this instead...
"A week ago, the Information Commissioner notified the University of East Anglia that he would be ruling against them on my longstanding FOI request for the list of sites used in the Yamal-Urals regional chronology referred to in a 2006 Climategate email. East Anglia accordingly sent me a list of the 17 sites used in the Yamal-Urals regional chronology (see here). A decision on the chronology itself is pending. In the absence of the chronology itself, I’ve done an RCS calculation, the results of which do not yield a Hockey Stick."
http://climateaudit.org/2012/05/06/yamal-foi-...
There's a link in there to the actual letter from UK ICO.
“YAD061 reaches 8 sigma and is the most influential tree in the world.” Steve McIntyre
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/20...
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Remove the data obtained from that one tree, and the Hokey Schstick ends up as a pile of sawdust.
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RU Kidding wrote:
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Either u stop all subsidies or subsidies all. All subsidies should be stopped. We should do like China and add a new coal plant every ten days and then we can afford with 9% economic growth a solar run building here and There.
This makes more sense than to restrict our abundant coal and oil , drivin up deficits and poverty and then we can't afford to have a solar building without huge deficits and loans.
why not Clean coal Tech , as clean as NG plant!

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UdiotRacesMAkeWorldPeace wrote:
why not Clean coal Tech , as clean as NG plant!
Cost.

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Natural Gas Smothering 'Clean Coal' and Carbon Capture
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/20...
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Politics aside, natural gas is beating up on clean coal
http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/30/news/companie...
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'Clean' coal plant on hold over low natural gas prices
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-05-24...
UdiotRacesMAkeWo rldPeace

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May 26, 2012
 
Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>Cost.
I know! Just asking what you or anyone think?
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Not only is Osama Bin Laden our president now..(talk about one ultimate deception).. But Obama which IS Osama is ALSO the King Pharo that ruled Egypt a few thousand years ago, but Pharos wife IS Michelle Obama and Pharos 2 daughters are.. Well.. The master plan of Satan wouldn't leave them out :)))
Thank You Jesus that the plan of the most High God is the ultimate winning plan & side we better get on.. NOW..QUICKLY.. For the time of the end is at hand...
The Antichrist is so close to revealing themselves & most importantly JESUS CHRIST & our angels are in preparation to carry His ppl outta here.!!!
GET RIGHT or GET LEFT
I love you all & will continue pleading
Patriot AKA Bozo

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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure the average patriotic inhabitant of Delhi feels the same about India.
I feel lucky not to have been cursed with patriotism.
Nope, you seem to be cursed with meism, rejection of the greater good for selfishness. To become patriotic, one must feel loyalty to a social order.

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Mothra wrote:
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Seriously? A 2009 RC rant?
Try this instead...
"A week ago, the Information Commissioner notified the University of East Anglia that he would be ruling against them on my longstanding FOI request for the list of sites used in the Yamal-Urals regional chronology referred to in a 2006 Climategate email. East Anglia accordingly sent me a list of the 17 sites used in the Yamal-Urals regional chronology (see here). A decision on the chronology itself is pending. In the absence of the chronology itself, I’ve done an RCS calculation, the results of which do not yield a Hockey Stick."
http://climateaudit.org/2012/05/06/yamal-foi-...
There's a link in there to the actual letter from UK ICO.
Before you get too giddy, don't forget that his work has to be peer reviewed as well. Until then is only a disagreement.
LessHypeMoreFact

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Mothra wrote:
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In the absence of the chronology itself, I’ve done an RCS calculation, the results of which do not yield a Hockey Stick."
http://climateaudit.org/2012/05/06/yamal-foi-...
So all you can do is cut and paste links from a known 'junk scientist' who has been 'ruled against' in his 'garage science' by the science academies that investigated his claims?

Ya Got Nothing. Nor does Mackintyre have good science on how the processing methodology worked or why it was preferrable to the 'RCS method' assuming he got that 'technically' right.

When the SCIENCE academies give him some support for a claim, then he might be taken seriously. His ONLY success so far was in pointing to a y2k bug on one website.

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May 26, 2012
 
UdiotRacesMAkeWorldPeace wrote:
<quoted text>why not Clean coal Tech , as clean as NG plant!
Go NG and and let government subsidize "Clean Coal" technology in conjunction with the coal industry.
LessHypeMoreFact

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Earthling-1 wrote:
Natural Gas Smothering 'Clean Coal' and Carbon Capture
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/20...
Fact is that 'clean coal' never had a chance. NO serious work on it was done. So the flood of cheap NG under Obama has competed against DIRTY coal and is winning because it IS clean.

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