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#24815
Jul 11, 2012
 
Gosch Foundation wrote:
<quoted text>A Fresh Look, by Carla Binion, Nazis and the Republican Party, Nazi ...
Nazis and the Republican Party. Investigative reporter Christopher Simpson says
in BLOWBACK that after World War II, Nazi émigrés were given CIA subsidies ...
http://www.bartcop.com/nazigop.htm - 12k -
Cabal capitalists are terrorist murderers in the same sense that any other terrorist group is: they "engage in violent or life-threatening acts that are a violation of the criminal laws of the State and are intended to intimidate or coerce the civilian population, to influence the policy of the government by intimidation or coercion, and to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping." 1
Capitalist terrorism--the economic and military murder of workers worldwide--is an ongoing operation. To keep track of these outrages, it's necessary to update the record on an ongoing basis.
In 2008, capitalist economic terrorists destroyed the American economy through its criminal financial miscreancy. They set up a capitalist-dominated perversion of an economy in which American worker taxes were looted by the very economic criminals that had perpetrated the terrorism.
Yeah that is why Nazi Germany raised taxes on the rich & corporations. Nazi Germany had profit sharing Nazi Germany forced all companies to join a Nazi Cartel or be shut down,Nazi Germany set wages that were not too high or low, Volkswagen the people's car created to be affordable to the public, Nazi Germany had leisure items like soccer fields, gyms, lounges & bird watching clubs in the world place, Nazi Germany had smoke free rooms in the world place, Nazi Germany had new canteens for workers, Nazi Germany had cheap & free vacations for workers,

Nazi Germany was for vegetarianism, enviromentalism, animal rights, anti smoking campaigns, euthanasia,

Yeah sounds just like the Republican party. UURRR

Socialist Left wingers I mean.

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Jul 11, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Not in the multiverse, where anything possible is actual.
Yeah anything is possible in the multiverse.

For some reason Ghosts, Aliens,U.F.O's, Bigfoot, ESP, etc is impossible in it. LOL

Because we are so certain all we know is all there is.

If it is possible for life to evolve to the point of creating consciousness.

Why would it be impossible for aliens, U.F.O's ghosts etc?

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#24817
Jul 11, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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How can a universe with laws do anything by pure chance? It can't. That's what physical law mean - matter appears constrained to behave in accordance with a rule, the opposite of chance.
Why would physical laws happen by chance?

The chances are against it.

By chance the Universe should be far more chaotic with no sort of physical laws to create any sort of patterns, order or function to it.

The chances are that a Universe by chance would simply collapse on it's self & have nothing to keep it together.

The Universe does seem to have direction to it beyond just chance.

If the Universe was just slightly different nothing could exist as itt does.

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#24818
Jul 11, 2012
 
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Yes, but how does a god like yours help you with that problem? Remember, since gods and universes are coextensive, it also must seem just as illogical to you that a god of chance with no sort of direction could some how create something more perfect than it's self. The god itself seems to have simply too many patterns & laws to it to be fully by chance.
Science proves we are the universe. Our matter & energy is part of the universe.

So wouldn't it make sense for the universe to be much like ourselves? Imperfect but capable of some direction?

We aren't capable of absolute perfection. We aren't capable of absolute direction.
We simply co-exist with other parts of the universe. To do so there can't be perfection.

Even so we have direction. We are like gods. We domesticated animals, cultivated crops & recently we created life.

The Universe does seem like us. The Universe does seem to have more order, patterns & physical laws to it than by chance.

In order for order, patterns & physical laws to exist it would most likely be supportive of a Universe that is capable of some direction.
As if the Universe in it's self was divine & capable of keeping it's self in order.
A Universe of chance should just collapse & have nothing to go on.

It simply shouldn't become ordered enough for life to exist.
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#24819
Jul 11, 2012
 
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>You're a physicist? Why didn't ya say so? Is that why you are still in the closet?
No I'm not, but I am athiest like most people with any semblance of intellect

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Jul 11, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Do you think that you "tend to go with" that?
If wisdom is related to humility regarding truths, what is it called when you insist that you are correct about governmental and racial issues?
The World I have seen is well aware of Blacks getting worse after civil rights in the U.S.

Which is a red flag for the argument that racism, opression & poverty causes Black issues.

“There's a feeling I get...”

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Double Fine has been working way overtime. Will address all posts when everything is back to normal.

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#24822
Jul 11, 2012
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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*Snowflakes do not seem to reproduce.
*There is not one piece of evidence for a multiverse - none.
*Again, there is not one piece of evidence for a multiverse. Roger Penrose said it is not even science.
*Puddles: If it rains and leaves 9 puddles, no intelligence required. If the puddles are in order and shape to spell out "BUCK CRICK", the overwhelming implication is intelligence - the holes for the water in the puddles was by design.
*The multiverse argument is neither an argument for nor against the probability of a god - particularly since it is not even an argument. It is an idea. Somebody thought about it, and wrote it down.
It's more of a science and has more evidence for it than the existence of god, if you think that its impossible for something to come from nothing like our universe,where did your god come from, of is that an exception in your 'mind'

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Jul 11, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Good science is based on reproducible observation, explains and unifies those observations, makes unexpected and confirmable predictions,
Good science studies things before they dismiss them.

Good science would be to study the paranormal rather than dismiss it.

It is not like the paranormal is just in one culture.

It is worldwide. Across all cultures is paranormal.

Ironically the Christians didn't speak of Ghosts like we do in Europe.

Our Ghosts we speak of ironically fit better with Native American, Asian & African accounts of ghosts.
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Jul 11, 2012
 
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The countries with the shortest life expectancies are for the most part in central Africa in war zones, extreme rates of infant mortality, and with histories of famine.
I wonder which has more an impact, believing in a god, or the occasion genocide?
Your the fool that laughably implied Christians lived longer
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#24825
Jul 11, 2012
 
Buck Crick wrote:
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There is no Discovery Institute of science, or pseudoscience.
There is a Discovery Institute.
There is also a field of science called "Intelligent Design Theory"
You employed a logical fallacy of argument.
That is not a field if science, it is like astrology a total nonsense, religeous hogwash , that's why it isn't taught in school science, because it ISN'T science
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Jul 11, 2012
 
barefoot2626 wrote:
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LOL Our aims was not to be kicked around by the British. LOL. HISTORIANS ALMOST UNIVERSALLY CONCLUDED it was a stalemate. LOL. Neither side won. LOL. Neither side lost. LOL. The final note of the war was the complete and utter humiliation of the British at the Battle of New Orleans. LOL. You brought this all up. LOL. Next you will be claiming you "one" the argue.
LOL.
What all historians universally agree in is that it was a huge victory for britain, even thoe we didn't really care that much, and a massive humiliating defeat for America that ended in them being bankrupt and having to use British currency, total victory for britain and total defeat for America

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#24827
Jul 11, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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This is pretty ignorant, dude. The photos et al. ARE the evidence. Extraordinary evidence is not required to study them or anything else.
Second, whether evidence it is extraordinary or not is determined by the context, not the medium. Some photos are extraordinary evidence, like the ones of the tracks of the Higgs bosons. The photos of ghosts and Bigfoot are pretty ordinary evidence, available from Photoshop.
Paranormal people should not be making any claims yet. All of their claims are extraordinary, and they have no reliable data confirming any them, let alone extraordinary evidence.
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So wait? All that is needed for Astrophysicsis photos & that is the evidence.

Which is extraordinary evidence.

In the case of paranormal photographs are not evidence?

Which is not extraordinary evidence?

Well if this is not proof of Carl Sagan being a hypocrite I don't know what is.

As his extraordinary evidence is the same kind of evidence paranormal researchers gather.

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Jul 11, 2012
 
ChristineM wrote:
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You have no f*clng clue what I mean so don’t ever try and tell my what I mean, I know what I mean, you are too stupid even to comprehend what I mean you ignorant racist idiot
Blacks do make up the majority of murder in the U.S it is fact.

Our DOJ FBI stats show Blacks make up 52% of all murder for the past 30 years or so.

Blacks do make the biggest group in Prison.

Blacks do make up the majority of rapists in the U.S

Sorry if you think facts are ignorant & racist.

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Jul 11, 2012
 
HugeKielbasa wrote:
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Good science studies things before they dismiss them.
Good science would be to study the paranormal rather than dismiss it.
It is not like the paranormal is just in one culture.
It is worldwide. Across all cultures is paranormal.
Ironically the Christians didn't speak of Ghosts like we do in Europe.
Our Ghosts we speak of ironically fit better with Native American, Asian & African accounts of ghosts.
Okay, you are 100% right.

Double Fine will go to the nearest university and demand that they try and formulate a theory to prove the existence of the Easter Bunny.

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ChristineM wrote:
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You see, quantity has never been much in the way of quality but I suppose that you have no control when you go into meltdown.
It is obvious know about quantity, well done mr bigdickhead conservative agnostic catholic fundumetalist bigoted racist. Do you actually know what you are?
BTW, blogs and youtube don’t actually count as evidence. You want to make a credible and quality point then include some academic or scientific links.
Oh sorry, is my contempt for you showing?
Yeah Blacks not only lack quanity of brain Blacks also lack quality of brain.

Hence the shorter more dolichocephalic skull of Africans which allows for more advanced upper / frontal brain.

Hendce the less convoluted brain of Africans.

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Jul 11, 2012
 
Double Fine wrote:
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Okay, you are 100% right.
Double Fine will go to the nearest university and demand that they try and formulate a theory to prove the existence of the Easter Bunny.
Easter Bunny is one culture & not sighted by millions of people across the world.

Spirits & U.F.O's are a worldwide issue sighted by millions of people with accounts going back thousands of years.

This is not a one culture thing that just started.

It is uniform across cultures for thousands of years.

That is something worthy of study.

“The eye has it...”

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HugeKielbasa wrote:
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So wait? All that is needed for Astrophysicsis photos & that is the evidence.
Which is extraordinary evidence.
In the case of paranormal photographs are not evidence?
Which is not extraordinary evidence?
Well if this is not proof of Carl Sagan being a hypocrite I don't know what is.
As his extraordinary evidence is the same kind of evidence paranormal researchers gather.
The photos and data collected by scientists is not the same as "Ghost Hunters" on the cable teevee.

It isn't a photo taken by a Polaroid, looked at by a couple guys in the basement drinking a few beers, who then declare: "Yeah huh, that's Pluto alright... and look, you're in the picture too, Dale..."

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ChristineM wrote:
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I fail to see the logic in the hatred you show for you ancestors
You are quite willing to accept DNA evidence to convict a murderer but are unwilling to accent that same evidence that shows where you are descended from.
I fail to see why so many British seem to express apathy towards their own ethnicity.
Openly support Multiculturalism to their own ethnicity.

It is dishonorable & disrespectful to ancestors who fought & died for your ethnicity.

What? I don't support White murderers. Only in certain cases. Yes I support the Russians who beheaded Muslims.
I don't support a White murderer who just wants to kill his wife or kill someone at the bank as he robs it.

Blacks make up the majority of murder in the U.S it is fact.

Our DNA goes back to primates, fish, algae etc etc

So I should stop shocking my pool to kill algae because apparently I am killing my poor superior ancestors of algae. LOLOL

I should stop eating fish because I am killing my poor ancestors LOL

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Say what? Are you completely stupid?
Not as stupid you, darling.

If longevity was based on religion- your ridiculous assertion, darling- then the longevity would be the reverse of religious faith.

That is to say, dipstick, the least religious country would have the longest longevity.

I posted proof already refuting this.

Smarter persons would at least compare the "religiosity" within the same country... oh yes, I already did that.

U of Colorado study shows religious persons outlive those lacking religion.

Here's another:

"Could 95,000 Women Be Wrong?
A study using data from the Women's Health Initiative found that women aged 50 and up were 20% less likely to die in any given year if they attended religious services weekly (15% reduction if they attended less than weekly) compared to those that never attend religious services. This analysis was controlled for age, ethnicity, income level and (most importantly) current health status. The data was collected through surveys and an annual review of medical records. What was interesting was that the religion effect applied to overall risk of death, but not to risk of death from heart conditions. There is no explanation for why that might be. The fact that the study controlled for overall health status makes it more possible that attending religious services has a positive impact on health (not just that healthier people go to services more often).
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Here's anopther:

"Add 2 to 3 Years with Religion
Another study also found benefit to attending religion services, this time expressed in added years of life. Researchers have found that weekly attendance at religious services is associated with 2 to 3 additional years of life. These findings were controlled for other factors such as amount of physical exercise and taking cholesterol medications.
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Here's another:
Scientific studies over the last four decades have examined the role of both public and private religious expression on health and longevity. The studies have shown that the practice of religious activity improves health and increases longevity. The effect is seen even when other social/psychological differences are taken into account. For example, one 16-year study examined mortality rates in 11 religious vs. 11 secular kibbutzim in Israel. Although both communities were demographically-matched and provided similar levels of social support, three time more people died in the secular kibbutzim compared to the religious kibbutazim. The following is a short list of some recent studies that have shown the positive influence of religion on health and longevity.
(http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/reli... )

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Dipstick: smarter persons do not compare (e.g.) UK to USA for the simple reason that subjects of the UK are for the most part a bunch of PANSIES compared to the USA, and that is a more critical consideration when longevity is concerned.

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