Bill O'Reilly: President Obama, Afghanistan and bin Laden

JDC wrote:

<quoted text>
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Your video doesn't explain anything, but thanks for trying. By the way, that video was posted in 2007, and the official investigation on WTC-7 didn't come out until 2008, so you should at least look for something that takes into account the official findings.

Here's a silly video for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

.

Quantummist wrote:

<quoted text>
Horsey Puckey Doo Doo... Mexico just tapped a new oil field, US has more Oil than Saudi Arabia just in fields yet to be tapped.. We could stop using Middle East Oil tomorrow and produce our needs for the next 500 years from our own oil fields...
As for Bush doin 9/11 that I am sorry to say is Stupid... It's stupid because what is being claimed is Impossible...
Forget all the made up reasons as to Why he would have done it.. Ask yourself Specifically How Bush did it... 4 planes did fly into those building and the field in Pa... We have multiple sources of real time video of it happening, I saw it happen in real time on Live TV... So Ok.. Can we agree that those planes were real and not CGI inserts?
If the planes were real then ask How did Bush get 19 guys to kill themselves? For Oil?
Or do you think Explosives brought down the buildings? If so could you please explain how who ever set such explosives knew exactly where to place them so that they would start the building to fall where the planes hit... For the Story to hold the pilots would have to know exactly where in the building the explosives had been pre places and fly the planes into that exact location.. If you knew anything about flying a passenger jet you would know that would be Impossible...
From the point of Rational and Logical thought the How part that has been put forth is Stupid...

pamela's not above reprinting what she knows is a lie....

Retired SOF wrote:

<quoted text>
When did GW spike the ball?

Already pointed out to you. not that anyone expects you to post the truth.

Quantummist wrote:

<quoted text>
I didn't care that much for Bush myself... I don't think he should have put boots on the ground in Iraq... But the rest of the crap is just Horse Crap... he was in office for a few months when the attack happened.. If the attack happened in the first few months after Obama had taken office you would have placed blame on Bush for spending 8 years letting him go every time the OP's teams had him in their sights... The Plan for the attack, at documented by videos made by Bin Laden himself had been in the works for several years before Bush took office... We captured a mass stock pile of data when Osama was killed...
So you take the view that after 8 years of several attacks by Osama on the US Cole, US Embassies and First Strike on the Towers with the killing of many Americans had nothing to do with it... It's Bush's Fault they hit the Towers a Second time in his first few months in office... That's Delusional thinking

Good point!

Clinton had 8 years to find and kill Obama. The Muslims and their liberal defenders only gave Bush 8 months to find and kill Obama.

I meant Osama, not Obama. LOL.

911 was an inside job wrote:

<quoted text>
And what's your point? ALL of the hijackers were MALES. You failed to mention that part! None were Afghans. None were Iraqis. You failed to mention that part. All had trained in the United States. You failed to mention that part.

Terrorist used our system against us. And we payed for it! It is funny how YOU think terrorism started on 9/11. This has been going on for 1400 years. EVERY superpower in history has faced these freaks at one point in time or another. The US has "tried" to avoid this conflict for years. BUT now it is our turn to face radialized Islam. You like to argue the past but the real question is "what do we do next"? What happens AFTER the next attack?

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>Already pointed out to you. not that anyone expects you to post the truth.

Refresh my memory. Only FACTS please!

Retired SOF wrote:

<quoted text>
When did GW spike the ball?

Mission accompished!!!

"This day marks the end of major combat operations"!

Maybe he didn't spike the ball. He did a touchdown dance on the aircraft carrier but never did find that ball.

Obama cleaned up his mess. Spiked the ball, then went out and ordered the catching and/or killing of about 20 other Al Qaeda or Taliban high ranking members.

Quantummist wrote:

<quoted text>
I didn't care that much for Bush myself... I don't think he should have put boots on the ground in Iraq... But the rest of the crap is just Horse Crap... he was in office for a few months when the attack happened.. If the attack happened in the first few months after Obama had taken office you would have placed blame on Bush for spending 8 years letting him go every time the OP's teams had him in their sights... The Plan for the attack, at documented by videos made by Bin Laden himself had been in the works for several years before Bush took office... We captured a mass stock pile of data when Osama was killed...
So you take the view that after 8 years of several attacks by Osama on the US Cole, US Embassies and First Strike on the Towers with the killing of many Americans had nothing to do with it... It's Bush's Fault they hit the Towers a Second time in his first few months in office... That's Delusional thinking

So you deny that the Bush Family and the bin Laden family were tight? Or that the Bush Administration played a very active role in halting investigations into Saudis? Or that the administration facilitated the evacuation of the bin Ladens and other Saudis in the United States immediately after 9/11?

The attack took nearly two hours to unfold. According to the official narrative, our multi-trillion dollar military -- under the "leadership" of Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush, failed to have any effect AT ALL! In fact, over half an hour AFTER the SECOND tower was struck by an airliner, the airspace of our nation's capital was penetrated without challenge and our military's headquarters was successfully targeted!! Holy crap!

But that's what you believe, huh?

sofa_king_cool wrote:

<quoted text>Secondly, Bush that the mission was accomplished, "marking the end of major combat operations in Iraq".
So don't push that spin that the banner meant something else. The speech said it all.

At that time, GW was right. Look up the time line when sh*t went out of control.

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>Already pointed out to you. not that anyone expects you to post the truth.

Show me where I have lied!

Philliproy wrote:

<quoted text>
Good point!
Clinton had 8 years to find and kill Obama. The Muslims and their liberal defenders only gave Bush 8 months to find and kill Obama.

Why do you want Obama killed so much?
Clinton did have 8 years to catch and kill Bin Laden, but we only really knew he existed and was an enemy of our for about 4 of them. Bush had 8, he didn't get him, even less than a year after pinning the largest mass murder in our nation's history on him, Bush stated that he didn't think concern himself that much with him.
Obama made the order and our military carried out that order. An order that R(money) said in 2007 that he would never give. But today, Mr Etch-A-Sketch changed his tune.

It really gets to you teabaggers that Obama succeeded everywhere Bush failed us.

sofa_king_cool wrote:

<quoted text>Mission accompished!!!
"This day marks the end of major combat operations"!
Maybe he didn't spike the ball. He did a touchdown dance on the aircraft carrier but never did find that ball.
Obama cleaned up his mess. Spiked the ball, then went out and ordered the catching and/or killing of about 20 other Al Qaeda or Taliban high ranking members.

YOU need to keep up. I have commented on that already. If you really think about it. Obama cleaned up Bill Clinton's mess not GW's!

Retired SOF wrote:

<quoted text>
At that time, GW was right. Look up the time line when sh*t went out of control.

I guess the Bush-haters enjoy getting their hate-groove on, almost 4 years after Bush left office.

Let go of your grudge! Let go of your hate! Hate is killing you!

sofa_king_cool wrote:

<quoted text>Why do you want Obama killed so much?
Clinton did have 8 years to catch and kill Bin Laden, but we only really knew he existed and was an enemy of our for about 4 of them. Bush had 8, he didn't get him, even less than a year after pinning the largest mass murder in our nation's history on him, Bush stated that he didn't think concern himself that much with him.
Obama made the order and our military carried out that order. An order that R(money) said in 2007 that he would never give. But today, Mr Etch-A-Sketch changed his tune.
It really gets to you teabaggers that Obama succeeded everywhere Bush failed us.

Why do you Obamabots want to kill Bush so much?

911 was an inside job wrote:

<quoted text>
But we've told so many times that "al Qaeda" in structured non-hierarchically. What does "number 3 man" mean? And if it is significant, then why wasn't Bush interested in taking out bin Laden, the "number 1 man"?
And why didn't Bush take out Anwar al Awlaki back when he was conducting prayer services at the nation's Capitol or when he was invited (and showed up!) to dinner at the Pentagon?

Actually they are organized much like the mafia.. There are Don's that stay above the fray and have to work themselves up the ladder before they are Made Men... But under them the assorted Bosses run things independently... And then small Gangs do the local Banging.... So Number 3 means one of the sub Bosses under the Don..

Why Bush did or did not take such actions first requires such was done as stated, which is not in evidence... And Second Intel of the connection would have to have been known, again not in evidence...

What is in Evidence is that for the 8 Years before Bush took office the Muslim Mafia attacked US assets in several places, made videos of them attacking, sent the videos to the US, Attacked and killed Americans on American Soil and their #1 was Found, Targeted and requested 3 times by Military Forces to be allowed to Kill Him... And by Presidential Order was denied authority to Kill Him...

But because the Towers fell a few months after Bush took office it's his fault... Sorry that's Irrational...

If you wish to explain how explosive demolition happened at the towers and #7 go ahead.. But do it One Step at a time... Let's start with What type of Explosives were set in advance of the planes hitting them... But make sure you know your Boom Boom stuff and it's signature characteristics in use... Or do you want to start with there not actually being any planes in the first place, maybe you will take the "It was actually missiles" tack that some have...

By the way, I'm ex Military and had a 221c primary MOS and a 223c secondary MOS and the missile thingy is just silly....

Retired SOF wrote:

<quoted text>
Show me where I have lied!

the spike the ball comment about bush on teh carrier. you know where you lied.

there is no way you can spin that to not be a spike.

The Tea Party prevailed in 2010.

The Tea Party will prevail again in 2012.

Obama lost the House to the Republicans in 2010. Obama will lose the Senate to the Republican in 2012.

Retired SOF wrote:

<quoted text>
Terrorist used our system against us. And we payed for it! It is funny how YOU think terrorism started on 9/11. This has been going on for 1400 years. EVERY superpower in history has faced these freaks at one point in time or another. The US has "tried" to avoid this conflict for years. BUT now it is our turn to face radialized Islam. You like to argue the past but the real question is "what do we do next"? What happens AFTER the next attack?

I remember, back in the day, there were these FREAKS that fought like savages, refusing to line up like proper, civilized armies do...

Oh wait, those terrorists were OUR team, fighting (dirty) against the super power of the time...

The U.S. has "tried" to avoid conflict for your years?! Is the reason you put that in quotes because you know it's a ridiculous claim?

When Navy SEAL Team 6 took out OBL the entire Nation was releived and cheered in unison regardless of political affiliation. Just like 9/11 we were all in this together. There was absolutley no division whatsoever. Obama and his campaign strategy to use this for political gain has now created another divide within our Nation. Something that Obama is all too well at doing. Dividing the Nation. It's disgusting and embarrassing.