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#97759 Aug 7, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
~Thomas Jefferson
Thank You Siouxweety :)
You're welcome!
And I just love what Freud said: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity".
American Lady

Danville, KY

#97760 Aug 7, 2012
Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
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Comfortably Numb (Waters)

Hello?
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone at home?
Come on, now,
I hear you're feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain
And get you on your feet again.
Relax.
I need some information first.
Just the basic facts
Can you show me where it hurts?

There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship, smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
When I was a child I had a fever
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I've got that feeling once again
I can't explain you would not understand
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.

(solo)

I have become comfortably numb.

O. K.
Just a little pin prick.
There'll be no more AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
But you may feel a little sick.
Can you stand up?
I do believe its working. Good.
That'll keep you going through the show
Come on it's time to go.

There is no pain you are receding
A distant ship, smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying.
When I was a child
I caught a fleeting glimpse
Out of the corner of my eye
I turned to look but it was gone
I cannot put my finger on it now
The child is grown,
The dream is gone.
I have become comfortably numb.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#97761 Aug 7, 2012
Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall
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"Another Brick in the Wall"

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

"Wrong, Do it again!"
"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you
have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
"You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!"
---
American Lady

Danville, KY

#97762 Aug 7, 2012
Indoctri-nation is what the US is trying to become based on the GOVERN MINT......
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#97763 Aug 7, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
What about those jet engines, SAID Jocko
==========
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1215045342257...
ANYthing else????.....;-)
I'll exceptionally reply because you are so far off, American er hmm Lady. Why do you think Rogue is not responding? Because he's full of it, and now so are you by attempting clumsily to reply for him. He baited me with the transfer of the JET ENGINE PLANT, not the turboprop engine plant. Jet engine plant was transferred in 2008, March to be exact, under GWB's encouraging subsidy for transferring plants and therefore jobs abroad. Over and out, now go back to you lair, or hole. And you need a bunch of those "Our father..."
Ellen1

Arlington, MA

#97764 Aug 7, 2012
Scrutiny wrote:
<quoted text>
Not sure about dumb. But I have caught Ellen simply making things up.
There IS evidence that both Kenyan certicates are fraudulent. Although, this doen't prove anything at all.
The location of birth is given as Mombasa. But Mombasa was part of the state of Zanzibar until December of 1963. This certificate is dated February 1964 and carries the name "Republic of Kenya", Kenya did not formally declare itself a Republic until December of 1964.
EF Lavender (the name given as Registrar) is a laundry detergent.
The certificate uses the label "Christian name" in a nation that is predominantly Muslim.
There were no "provinces" in Kenya until 1970. Prior to that they were called "Districts".
Obama's father would have been either 24 or maybe 25 when Obama was born. The certificate gives his age as 26.
You state that there is evidence that the Kenyan birth certificates are fraudulent "though this does not prove anything at all." Well, why believe "Kenyan birth certificates" which have evidence of being fraudulent, when there is proof--the birth certificate, the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties, the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in 1961, and the witness who wrote home about being told of a birth to Stanley to her father(also named Stanley)---that proves that Obama was born in HAWAII.

The stuff about whether Mombasa was in Kenya or not is irrelevant since Obama's mother did not go to Kenya in any case. For her to have gone, she would have had to have traveled ten thousand miles to Kenya ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior was in Hawaii in August 1961), which is highly unlikely. And only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. And the officials in Kenya have said that they checked out the "Born-in-Kenya" allegations, and found that they were false. And IF Obama had actually been born in Kenya, then his mother would have had to have applied for a passport or to add him to her US passport at the US consulate in Nairobi, and there are no signs that the records of such applications are missing, and IF there had been one, the Bush Administration had eight years in which it was in charge of the State Department to find that document.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#97765 Aug 7, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll exceptionally reply because you are so far off, American er hmm Lady. Why do you think Rogue is not responding? Because he's full of it, and now so are you by attempting clumsily to reply for him. He baited me with the transfer of the JET ENGINE PLANT, not the turboprop engine plant. Jet engine plant was transferred in 2008, March to be exact, under GWB's encouraging subsidy for transferring plants and therefore jobs abroad. Over and out, now go back to you lair, or hole. And you need a bunch of those "Our father..."
I may be "clumsily" doing iT. BUT, I got waaaaay tired of SEEING YOU "dogging" him about the CZECH Republic.....sooooo I took iT upon myself to DO something about iT!

Once....daily....on here....is enuf of "Our Father"....

In the meantime, do NOT tell ME where to go....
YOU may NOT like the response....NEXT time.....;-)

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#97766 Aug 7, 2012
“This sort of sophistry is rooted in nothing more noble than “Whatever it takes for my side to win.” Truth isn't the issue. Beating the other guy is. Even if it means prioritizing tactics so far above ethics that no accusation is beyond the pale.
=
“Reid's unsupported tax allegation puts him squarely in league with "BIRTHERS" who question Obama's citizenship. That allegation hasn't stood up to scrutiny. Even dishonest “BIRTHERS” know this. They DESPISE Obama so much, though, that the truth doesn't matter to them.
Which means Reid is, yes, a “BIRTHER.” Not because he refuses to believe Obama was born in Honolulu, as those 1961 birth announcements in the Honolulu Advertiser and Honolulu Star-Bulletin attest. No, Reid is a “BIRTHER’ because he plays by “BIRTHERS'” rules.
>>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ed...
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97767 Aug 7, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll exceptionally reply because you are so far off, American er hmm Lady. Why do you think Rogue is not responding? Because he's full of it, and now so are you by attempting clumsily to reply for him. He baited me with the transfer of the JET ENGINE PLANT, not the turboprop engine plant. Jet engine plant was transferred in 2008, March to be exact, under GWB's encouraging subsidy for transferring plants and therefore jobs abroad. Over and out, now go back to you lair, or hole. And you need a bunch of those "Our father..."
Who constantly pees in your chili? You're one sour individual with no respect for anyone. You reap what you sow. So filled with hate and jealousy. It's slowly gnawing away at what little soul you have left. I suggest a spiritual cleansing to rid you of those demons. Make amends to those you've harmed and take a personal inventory of your life. You've reached a fork in the road; take it!

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#97768 Aug 7, 2012
Another reason that proves "birthers" are really stupid: COLLEGE IS A BLAST, but "birthers" never experience it because they are AFRAID of college.
"I love college," he explained. "I don't like school; I love college." Chris Williams
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/golf/ct-...

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#97769 Aug 7, 2012
WHY “BIRTHERS” GET NO RESPECT FROM THEIR EDUCATED BETTERS
1.“Birthers” never post anything of substance – all of it is rumor, innuendo, speculation, and outright lies.
2.“Birther” posts are filled with tiresome invective stemming from their intense loathing and irrational hatred of the man who is their president.
3.“Birthers” never learned before they dropped out of high school how to substantiate their empty claims – by citation to authoritative sources, such as, controlling case law, primary documents, the United States Constitution, statutory law, the learned opinion of scholars in treatises or academic journals, or unbiased fact witnesses.
4.“Birthers” rely entirely on their own uninformed opinions or opinion statements of persons of whom no one has ever heard.
5.“Birthers” are unable to stick to the topic, choosing instead to post all manner of irrelevant and anecdotal material.
6.“Birthers” are inconsistent in their positions claiming to be conservative or libertarian, yet taking positions that are contrary to the true conservative and libertarian principles that have been posted on this site.
7.“Birthers” have a naïve one-dimensional, stereotypic view of the world – characterizing those who hold intelligent and educated views as “libtards,” while reluctantly acknowledging those who are true conservatives or, at least, moderate Republicans, such as Willard Romney, as country club Republicans or RINOs.
8.“Birthers” have no sense of what constitutes a hard fact v. one that is trivial.
9.“Birthers” have no response to and ignore hard and verifiable facts that are often presented on this site, such as, this statement:
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97770 Aug 7, 2012
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You state that there is evidence that the Kenyan birth certificates are fraudulent "though this does not prove anything at all." Well, why believe "Kenyan birth certificates" which have evidence of being fraudulent, when there is proof--the birth certificate, the confirmation of the officials of BOTH parties, the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in 1961, and the witness who wrote home about being told of a birth to Stanley to her father(also named Stanley)---that proves that Obama was born in HAWAII.
The stuff about whether Mombasa was in Kenya or not is irrelevant since Obama's mother did not go to Kenya in any case. For her to have gone, she would have had to have traveled ten thousand miles to Kenya ALONE (since WND has proven with a FOI Act request that Obama senior was in Hawaii in August 1961), which is highly unlikely. And only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. And the officials in Kenya have said that they checked out the "Born-in-Kenya" allegations, and found that they were false. And IF Obama had actually been born in Kenya, then his mother would have had to have applied for a passport or to add him to her US passport at the US consulate in Nairobi, and there are no signs that the records of such applications are missing, and IF there had been one, the Bush Administration had eight years in which it was in charge of the State Department to find that document.
Yada, yada, yada. zzzzzz

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#97771 Aug 7, 2012
Siouxweety wrote:
And I just love what Freud said: "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity".
Freud: "A love of weapons is a sign of sexual doubts and performance impotence."
Rational people don't fear weapons; they understand there is no place for them in 21st Century America.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#97772 Aug 7, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
I may be "clumsily" doing iT. BUT, I got waaaaay tired of SEEING YOU "dogging" him about the CZECH Republic.....sooooo I took iT upon myself to DO something about iT!
Once....daily....on here....is enuf of "Our Father"....
In the meantime, do NOT tell ME where to go....
YOU may NOT like the response....NEXT time.....;-)
Your bosom buddy Rogue deserves to be hounded. He STATES things that are patently false and mean then avoids replying beause he's a blowhard.No honour.

You have a funny way of saying you're wrong. But I'll take it. There, now, was that so hard?
1 post removed
Razors Edge

Oak Lawn, IL

#97774 Aug 7, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
<quoted text>
Freud: "A love of weapons is a sign of sexual doubts and performance impotence."
Rational people don't fear weapons; they understand there is no place for them in 21st Century America.
Try walking alone after dark on the south side of
Chicago? Then,and only then will you learn exactly
what CCW actually means?? Brain dead statements are
so degrading,shows no grasp of reality..guess thats
a Lefty/Commies thinking process??? LOL...No place
for weapons uh??????????
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97775 Aug 7, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
“This sort of sophistry is rooted in nothing more noble than “Whatever it takes for my side to win.” Truth isn't the issue. Beating the other guy is. Even if it means prioritizing tactics so far above ethics that no accusation is beyond the pale.
=
“Reid's unsupported tax allegation puts him squarely in league with "BIRTHERS" who question Obama's citizenship. That allegation hasn't stood up to scrutiny. Even dishonest “BIRTHERS” know this. They DESPISE Obama so much, though, that the truth doesn't matter to them.
Which means Reid is, yes, a “BIRTHER.” Not because he refuses to believe Obama was born in Honolulu, as those 1961 birth announcements in the Honolulu Advertiser and Honolulu Star-Bulletin attest. No, Reid is a “BIRTHER’ because he plays by “BIRTHERS'” rules.
>>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ed...
For me, it has nothing to do with Obama. It is his policies and methods that I disapprove of. Whether you care to admit it or not, there is a question of his "origins". He has demonstrated, beyond any doubt, he lacks leadership qualities and his ethics are pathetic to say it politely. He simply doesn't have America's best interests at heart. The immigration games he has played are truly disgraceful, not only to the Office but also to the illegals. He has used them just to "try" and get a vote while at the same time putting us under greater financial pressure. Personally, I do not think the man is as intelligent as most believe. The ball is in his court yet he refuses to put the matter to rest. That can only cause people to raise an eyebrow or two.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97776 Aug 7, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
Another reason that proves "birthers" are really stupid: COLLEGE IS A BLAST, but "birthers" never experience it because they are AFRAID of college.
"I love college," he explained. "I don't like school; I love college." Chris Williams
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/golf/ct-...
At what age did your parents disown you?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#97777 Aug 7, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Your bosom buddy Rogue deserves to be hounded. He STATES things that are patently false and mean then avoids replying beause he's a blowhard.No honour.
You have a funny way of saying you're wrong. But I'll take it. There, now, was that so hard?
You are the WRONG one, DWIDIOT!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97778 Aug 7, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
WHY “BIRTHERS” GET NO RESPECT FROM THEIR EDUCATED BETTERS
1.“Birthers” never post anything of substance – all of it is rumor, innuendo, speculation, and outright lies.
2.“Birther” posts are filled with tiresome invective stemming from their intense loathing and irrational hatred of the man who is their president.
3.“Birthers” never learned before they dropped out of high school how to substantiate their empty claims – by citation to authoritative sources, such as, controlling case law, primary documents, the United States Constitution, statutory law, the learned opinion of scholars in treatises or academic journals, or unbiased fact witnesses.
4.“Birthers” rely entirely on their own uninformed opinions or opinion statements of persons of whom no one has ever heard.
5.“Birthers” are unable to stick to the topic, choosing instead to post all manner of irrelevant and anecdotal material.
6.“Birthers” are inconsistent in their positions claiming to be conservative or libertarian, yet taking positions that are contrary to the true conservative and libertarian principles that have been posted on this site.
7.“Birthers” have a naïve one-dimensional, stereotypic view of the world – characterizing those who hold intelligent and educated views as “libtards,” while reluctantly acknowledging those who are true conservatives or, at least, moderate Republicans, such as Willard Romney, as country club Republicans or RINOs.
8.“Birthers” have no sense of what constitutes a hard fact v. one that is trivial.
9.“Birthers” have no response to and ignore hard and verifiable facts that are often presented on this site, such as, this statement:
Congrats! You've just been equated to a human fart.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#97779 Aug 7, 2012
Where is the little Wojar? LMAO

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