BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Terri Tanna wrote:
"SADLY, you ignore that the United States Supreme Court has ADDRESSED and RESOLVED forever the Obama eligibility matter by its action in Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen and rejecting as insubstantial your tired and constitutionally incorrect nonsense. RES JUDICATA.
"Why is it that you have failed so ignominiously to address that case?"
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ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
How many years did you clerk and for whom?
Do you know anything about the internal rules of the Supreme Court that REQUIRES (no discretion) the Justices to take any case that has been decided contrary to the United States Constitution?
The appellee's case considered carefully each and every fantasy contention of the "birthers" and rejected each and every one as totally without merit.
Tell the Class the learned constitutional treatise that in YOUR opinion merits study. Thank you.
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Conservative girl wrote:
Please explain Judge Michael Mahili findings on the Constitutionality of President Obama to be on the Georgia Presidential Election state ballot. And why after issuing a default judgment since Obama and counsel refused to attend court, did not issue an arrest warrant?
Note that I am a lifelong, multi-generational ultra-conservative Republican with a highly regarded and widely published statement of "American Conservative Principles" -- none of which you can claim.
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There was no default judgment before Judge Mahili (if that is the correct spelling). Please cite the Order declaring a default JUDGMENT. You embarrass yourself by your TOTAL IGNORANCE OF THE LAW.
DARE YOU TO STATE ANY ASPECT OF YOUR EDUCATION IN LAW. If you cannot, you must be dismissed as another ignorant and uneducated "birther." If you can, your credentials will be evaluated impartially by the Class. Thank you.

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American Lady wrote:
The Lord's Prayer
Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever.
Amen †
If you are going to quote the Christian scriptures, please do so correctly.
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Matthew 6:7-15
In praying, do not babble like american lady and the other pagans, who think that they will be heard because of their many words.
Do not be like them. Your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
“This is how you are to pray:
Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread;
and forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors;
and do not subject us to the final test,
but deliver us from the evil one.
“If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you.
“But if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your transgressions.”
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The sentence,“For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever,” is a made-up phrase that has NO BASIS in Christian scripture and was never said that way by Jesus of Nazareth. But it is frequently added to the words of sacred scripture by those who know even less about Christianity than they know about the American Constitution.
Proof is that the poster CANNOT cite the exact verse and chapter in authentic Christian scripture in which her made-up words are found in the voice of Jesus of Nazareth.
HOW PATHETIC TO BE SO IGNORANT AND UNEDUCATED.

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Conservative girl wrote:
All Progressive have are excuses for this man. No amount of information measures up. For they to accept it, is to call into question their perception of reality. And that is something they cannot allow.
EXCUSES. Just point to the most cogent EVIDENTIARY FACT (in YOUR opinion) that proves your president is not a natural-born American citizen. JUST ONE. Thank you.
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August 6, 2012 – still no response, because no “birther” has been able to state a single EVIDENTIARY FACT to prove that Obama is not a natural-born American citizen. For more than (4) years the “birthers” have offered speculation and innuendo without a scintilla of proof. HOW PATHETIC!

“Facts trump speculation”

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I noticed you did not think about the little people one iota. You know, the people who pickup your garbage, wait tables in a small restaurant or clerk at a convenience store all for just a a little over minimum wage.
Just think, what if your garbage man does not come this week? Next week? The rest of the month? Three months? Sooner or later you will be glad he shows up.
It is amazing out you social elitists don't give a damn about the little people you expect top vote for Obama! What suckers they are!
Huh? You think poor little Westport, with median household income of $190K and median home values of ~$1M will need to lay off their garbage collectors because of the Presidential visit? RU serious?

Elitist? It's a simple fact that Westport can handle it swimmingly, even if the beach is closed for a day and the cops need overtime pay.

Get real. Westport is one of the wealthiest towns per capita in the wealthiest (usually 1st or 2nd) state per capita in the Union.

UR on the wrong page Rougie.

BTW, do you know how much waitresses make on tips in the fashionable little restaurants in Westport? And when those people paying ~$38K for dinner do a little shopping in Westport's chic little shops, it's not going to hurt the "little people" attending them. This is exactly according to Republican "trickle down" economic principles. You should be cheering!
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Why not, he da Prez., ain't he!
Obama’s coming: Close the beach!
By Olivier Knox, Yahoo! News | The Ticket
President Barack Obama flies to Connecticut on Monday for a star-studded fundraiser at movie mogul Harvey Weinstein's sprawling beachfront estate in Westport. The event means about $2 million for Obama's campaign—and traffic disruptions and beach closings, plus a surge in overtime pay for the town of some 26,000 people.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-comi ...
wojar wrote:
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Poor little Westport cannot handle overtime pay?
And the homeowners will be forced to use their beautiful swimming pools rather than going to the beach! How awful! This is an impeachable offense!
"Estimated median household income in 2009:$147,409"
"Estimated median house or condo value in 2009:$951,054"
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/city/Westport-Connec ...
Median family income
(per year)$191,308
Median home price $949,950
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bpliv ...

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His house was located right at Lasalle and North Avenue!
You are calling me a liar?
YES, you are mistaken – the Cardinal lives on the west side of Astor Street. It’s not a big deal that you are WRONG, but it is typical of the lack of precision in the thinking of blue collar, lower class,“birther”-peasants.

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Terri Tanna wrote:
"As with Frank and rube another "career" military grunt living off the American taxpayer."
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Like Colon Powell and Wesley Clark, both grunts!
I have never mentioned either except in response to your diatribes.
At least each of them had the GUTS, the COURAGE, and the ACCOMPLISHMENTS to rise to senior levels in the military unlike certain "career" suckers on the taxpayer-funded payroll.
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rouge the rube!!
1. When he was five or six he began to attend a taxpayer-funded public school staffed by taxpayer-funded teachers and, perhaps, taxpayer-funded teachers’ aides.
2. >>>As a young child rube loved to play with his friend in one of the many taxpayer-funded public parks in his neighborhood.<<<
3. >>>He enjoyed riding his bicycle on the taxpayer-funded sidewalks and streets in his neighborhood.<<<
4. >>>He always felt very safe knowing that the taxpayer-funded law enforcement officers were on patrol looking out for him even though he later developed a clinically-obsessive anti-authority figure personality.<<<
5. When he was thirteen or fourteen he enrolled in a taxpayer-funded public high school staffed by taxpayer-funded teachers and coaches.
6. Sadly, rube was not very smart nor was he athletic or popular. He was not National Merit, a Westinghouse Science winner, National Honor Society, King of the Prom Court, an All-State athlete, a champion on the debate team, or the Editor of the taxpayer-funded public high school’s newspaper or yearbook. rube was a dreg – at the bottom of his very average class at a very average taxpayer-funded public high school.
7. In these rebellious adolescent years when many of his contemporaries were preparing themselves to enter the State University, the local juco (most of the class) or, in a few cases, selective private colleges, rube was crystallizing his deep, clinically obsessive antipathy toward authority: police officers, teachers, school administrators, judges, elected public officials, and, eventually, the highly-educated and courageous men and women patriots who are the senior officers in the United States military because of their rigorous education and training at this great country’s storied Service Academies at West Point, Annapolis, Colorado Springs, and even Kings Point and New London.
8. Having no future in college (not even an option) or the private business sector because of his abysmally low public high school class rank and SAT scores, rube took the easy way out.
9. For the next twenty-plus years he lived on the taxpayer-funded welfare rolls as a military grunt receiving a taxpayer-funded government handout for his compensation, his housing, his uniforms, his medical care, and his equipment. During these twenty-plus years he accomplished nothing of importance.
10. Finally, he bailed out of the military, so that he could receive a generous taxpayer-funded pension and taxpayer-funded VA medical and other taxpayer-funded welfare benefits.
11. Without any genuine skills he was reduced to employment as truck driver using the taxpayer-funded highways while he collected his taxpayer-funded military pension and taxpayer-funded VA medical and other taxpayer-funded welfare benefits.
12. Having reached that certain age rube began to draw on the taxpayer-funded social security system to supplement his taxpayer-funded military pension and taxpayer-funded VA medical and other taxpayer-funded welfare benefits.
IF THERE IS ONE THING THE POSTERS ON THIS SITE ADMIRE ABOUT RUBE, IT IS HIS FIRM AND UNWAVERING OPPOSITION TO THOSE WHO SUCK ON THE TEAT OF THE TAXPAYER-FUNDED GOVERNMENT WELFARE ROLLS RECEIVING TAXPAYER-FUNDED HAND OUTS FOR DOING NOTHING.
Shame on President Obama for his support of entitlement programs including the “Affordable Care Act.”
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Each day those who frequent this site should applaud and thank rube for his courageous opposition to liberal/Marxist big government spending on taxpayer-funded welfare programs.
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U.S. Soldiers, Thank you for your sacrifices. Salute!
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Terri Tanna wrote:
Terri Tanna wrote:
"SADLY, you ignore that the United States Supreme Court has ADDRESSED and RESOLVED forever the Obama eligibility matter by its action in Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen and rejecting as insubstantial your tired and constitutionally incorrect nonsense. RES JUDICATA.
"Why is it that you have failed so ignominiously to address that case?"
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HOW IGNORANT you are. Georgetown does not have BROWNSTONES nor does Capitol Hill. You embarrass yourself by your insolent ignorance every time you post.
No, Kerchner was denied due to standing, anything else was just dicta.
Georgetown wasn't you smart enough to get into Harvard! Hell, Georgetown compared to Harvard, that is like comparing the 8th grade to a Junior College. Stephanie, I know you went to Georgetown, and have never passed the bar.
You are one stupid POS!

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American Lady wrote:
it was NEVER the intention of our founding fathers for government to support the poor. The government's only purpose is to protect our freedom, person and property. It's not the government's business to educate our children, control the banks and provide social security.
TOTAL BULL SHTTTTT.
Prove your statements by citation to The Federalist. Your ignorance of the intention of our Founders and Framers to create a BIG, all-powerful federal government is appalling. DARE YOU to find any quotes from HAMILTON to the contrary.
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Charles F. KERCHNER, Jr.; Lowell T. Patterson; Darrell James Lenormand; Donald H. Nelsen, Jr., Appellants v. Barack Hussein OBAMA, II, President Elect of the United States of America, President of the United States of America, and Individually; United States Of America; United States Congress; United States Senate; United States House of Representatives; Richard B. Cheney, President of the Senate, Presiding Officer of Joint Session of Congress, Vice President of the United States and Individually; Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House and Individually.
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Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen. RES JUDICATA.
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No "birther" can deny the RES JUDICATA effect of the United States Supreme Court's action in this case. Ha Ha Ha Ha
The Supreme Court made absolute fools of all the "birthers" and their duplicitous counsel. Ha Ha Ha
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American Lady wrote:
How is Christianity not Communist when Jesus was a communist,...
[Apr 22, 2008]... though that Jesus of Nazareth taught ... Communism is the perfect form of government -- on paper. In practice, it cannot exist ... This was not what Jesus preached ...~ by J.P.
What kind of authority is the anonymous J.P.?
You personify the essence of the uneducated and ignorant "birthers." You have no concept of authentic biblical authority. HOW PATHETIC THAT YOU WERE TOO STUPID TO BE ADMITTED TO ANY COLLEGE.

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American Lady wrote:
Project::Noah
In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed... No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.
Preface to 1828 Dictionary
Do you deny that Islam that believes in the God of Abraham is EQUALLY important for the United States?

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Grand Birther wrote:
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Simple, PROVE IT!
Find a copy of the LFBC with a State certification seal on the back to attest to the authenticity of the document.
If the LFBC is fraudulent, and it is, so is the short form, RETARD!
Did you think of that BS all by yourself?
Incidentally, you know that Hawaii DOH uses a raised visible embossed seal and that it is visible from both sides, right?
So while you are at it, pick any copy of the long form birth certificate you like and point us to the location of the seal.
You can do that, right?
Finally, why don't you explain to us how this can be done with a document that has allegedly only been scanned and not a computer built document.
http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2011...
Will you believe your lying eyes?
Don't forget to click the link and LQQK before you respond.
Did you look the links i posted where it says they saythe birth certificate and felt the raised seal
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Terri Tanna wrote:
Terri Tanna wrote:
"SADLY, you ignore that the United States Supreme Court has ADDRESSED and RESOLVED forever the Obama eligibility matter by its action in Kerchner v. Obama, 669 F. Supp. 2d 477 (D.N.J. 2009) aff'd, 612 F.3d 204 (3d Cir. 2010), cert. denied, 131 S. Ct. 663 (2010), upholding the President’s eligibility as a natural-born American citizen and rejecting as insubstantial your tired and constitutionally incorrect nonsense. RES JUDICATA.
"Why is it that you have failed so ignominiously to address that case?"
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ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
How many years did you clerk and for whom?
Do you know anything about the internal rules of the Supreme Court that REQUIRES (no discretion) the Justices to take any case that has been decided contrary to the United States Constitution?
The appellee's case considered carefully each and every fantasy contention of the "birthers" and rejected each and every one as totally without merit.
Tell the Class the learned constitutional treatise that in YOUR opinion merits study. Thank you.
What would you know about the Constitution, you have screwed your way up the ladder, Stephanie!
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Armed forces are all good, Rogue, I'm sure, and yes, they should get a lot of praise. BUT, they only comprise about 3.5% of the American population. To hear you say it, you'd think they were 100%. A bit of praise for teachers, police, firefighters, nurses, professors, farmers, volunteers, doctors, cooks, garbagemen, sanitary workers, Fast food and big box employees, service station and convenience store workers, roadworkers, people who work with the handicapped, honest financiers, labourers, carpenters, plumbers, electricians, engineers, athletes, both amateur and professional, entertainers,artists, singers, from opera to rock and rap, dancers, the unemployed etc etc. You appear to be living in a one-dimensional world.
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Alabama

"Forty Hour Week"

There are people in this country who work hard every day
Not for fame or fortune do they strive
But the fruits of their labor are worth more than their pay
And it's time a few of them were recognized

Hello Detroit auto workers, let me thank you for your time
You work a forty hour week for a livin', just to send it on down the line
Hello Pittsburgh steel mill workers, let me thank you for your time
You work a forty hour week for a livin', just to send it on down the line

This is for the one who swings the hammer, driving home the nail
Or the one behind the counter, ringing up the sale
Or the one who fights the fires, the one who brings the mail
For everyone who works behind the scenes

You can see them every morning in the factories and the fields
In the city streets and the quiet country towns
Working together like spokes inside a wheel
They keep this country turning around

Hello Kansas wheat field farmer, let me thank you for your time
You work a forty hour week for a livin', just to send it on down the line
Hello West Virginia coal miner, let me thank you for your time
You work a forty hour week for a livin', just to send it on down the line

This is for the one who drives the big rig, up and down the road
Or the one out in the warehouse, bringing in the load
Or the waitress, the mechanic, the policeman on patrol
For everyone who works behind the scenes

With a spirit you can't replace with no machine
Hello America let me thank you for your time

http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/alabama/fo...

John Rich - Shutting Down Detroit
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You are the one who is SO UNEDUCATED in The Law that you don't know. Please tell us what YOU believe in the source of U.S. jurisdiction. My complete and correct answer is that it is found in the jurisdiction-conferring statutes.
Please tell the Class how the federal courts have jurisdiction in federal income tax matters since that is NOT stated in the Constitution. Thank you.
For extra credit:
(1) Does a federal court have jurisdiction with a case or controversy?
(2) May a federal court take a case that is not justiciable? Please give the Class an example from recent cases of one that is not justiciable. Thank you.
Don't dance, answer my question, if you dare!
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WRONG. WRONG. WRONG. Dare you cite cite ANY independent authority or treatise that supports your fantasy. You may even use The Federalist -- in fact, the Class DARES YOU TO PROVE YOU ARE NOT THE DUMBEST PERSON ON THIS SITE by quoting specifically from The Federalist. Ha Ha Ha Ha
The US Constitution!

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And why did the public sector lose those jobs?
I am curious.
I love it when you lefties try to come across as smart and don't know a damn thing.
Why curious now? Your first assertion was that Obama was only providing government jobs. Now you want to feign curiosity about the loss of those government jobs he obviously wasn’t providing.

Does making Obama a one term president ring a bell?

“Twelve Red states, 11 of which went Red in 2010, were responsible for almost ¾ of the total public sector job loss in 2011, while sitting on more than $12.5 billion in hoarded state funds. While governors of New Hampshire, Minnesota, Montana, and North Carolina, are all Democrats, the state legislatures are fully Republican controlled. Without these layoffs, economists say, our national unemployment would have been around 7% today.

What could be their reason for this? Given the GOP pledge to “make President Obama a one-term president,” one has to wonder”
http://veracitystew.com/2012/06/22/gop-govern...

Of course there could be another explanation for this. After all who on earth would want to ruin the economy just to gain power? LOL

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