BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ... Full Story
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#88537 Jul 1, 2012
American Lady wrote:
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, it, natural born citizen, was universally understood to be someone who was born on American soil.
“And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle,in the section which defines the qualification of the President.‘No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,’ &c. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not.”
Lynch v. Clarke, 3 NY Leg. Obs. 236, 246 (N.Y. Ch. 1844).
“In the convention of the people of Pennsylvania, which was held in November, 1787, to take into consideration the adoption of the Federal Constitution, it [giving up of common law rights] was objected because the word ‘appeaIs’ was used in that instrument, that the trial by jury was intended to be given up, and the civil law introduced in its stead.(See Wilson’s Works, and Hall’s Amer. Law Journal 321, 423, 426.)”
“And this rooted partiality for the common law, resulted in the adding of the express provisions securing to the people the right of trial by jury, and other common law rights, which are to be found in the amendments to the Constitution of the United States.”
"And this rooted partiality for the common law ...." Yet birfoons insist the Revolution was all about getting rid of common law.
Nope.
But don't let facts get in your way, birfoons, it would spoil your fantasy.
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'Put it on record!'
'This judge can't get out;if he screws around, he's violating law'
The action follows by weeks the release of Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s investigation into Obama’s eligibility. The investigation by professional law enforcement officers working on a volunteer basis for Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse found probable cause that Obama’s birth certificate was forged and fraudulently presented as a genuine document.
The plaintiff has submitted affidavits from Arpaio and others to support the claim.
The complaint explains that even if Obama was born within the United States, he is still not a “natural-born citizen” as required by the U.S. Constitution.That’s because his father was born in the British Colony of Kenya on June 18, 1936, making him a British subject, according to the British Nationality Act of 1948.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/unexpected-turn-in...
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Obama did not even know that for any person,but especially for the "Commander in Chief" to stand their with his hands over his crotch instead of saluting the Flag which is a SYMBOL of this nation,and his hand over his HEART area when songs,etc representing respect for those who gave their lives for this country, was one of the most DISRESPECTFUL things he could have done shows his "culture" came from elsewhere. Pretty much everyone was shocked, even his supporters - but then the "spin" came out and it was HIDDEN like sweeping dirt under a couch.
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PLUS his LOONY wife once said "All this just for a Flag".....
TRR: Michelle Obama:“All This Just For a Flag”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-r...
Here's some cut and paste for you :

As police and firefighters fold the flag to the sound of marching bagpipers,a skeptical looking Mrs. Obama leans to her husband and appears to say,“all this just for a flag.”She then purses her lips and shakes her head slightly as Mr. Obama nods.

Just for a flag?If that is what she said it is regrettable(Wash Times)

"Appears to say?" APPEARS? From the Washington Times,to the right of Mein Kampf? Lip reading? The hate!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#88538 Jul 1, 2012
A Natural Born Citizen as defined by George Washington and John Adams in the public acts of the first Congress 2nd session Chapter III on March 26, 1790 clearly states “That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been residents of the United States” I found this when trying to determine the meaning of “natural born citizen” as described in Article II Section 1 paragraph 5 of the Constitution.

The meaning becomes very clear if you read paragraph 5 then look through the original copies of the Constitution for what was meant by our fore fathers by “Natural Born”. People confuse “Natural Born” with “Naturalized” and some how in their ignorance think that the two are the same thing, simply because they sound the same. They are not.
Obama was clearly ineligible.

http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2012/01/26/...

Nite folks....Think I'll go for a swim.....;-)

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#88539 Jul 1, 2012
American Lady wrote:
"And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea,
or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born
citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose
fathers have never been resident in the United States".
(Act of January 29, 1795,
Section 3, 1 Stat. 414, 415)
Has nothing to do with persons born in the US.

UR on the wrong page, BirfoonLady.
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#88540 Jul 1, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama's playing his sheeple for their nickles in more ways than one but they are too dumb to know it.
How many tax dollars has he spent on lawyers for this birth certificate sham?
Just a fraction compared to the tax dollars spent by birthers that in turn forced the govt to spend as much to arrive at 133-0. Kudos.

“The Usurper FAILED”

Since: Apr 11

Americans

#88541 Jul 1, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Has nothing to do with persons born in the US.
UR on the wrong page, BirfoonLady.
LOL...you been on the wrong page for years bub. haha

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#88542 Jul 1, 2012
For those who say Global Warming is false read this.
http://news.yahoo.com/rise-sea-level-cant-sto...

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#88543 Jul 1, 2012
American Lady wrote:
"And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea,
or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born
citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose
fathers have never been resident in the United States".
(Act of January 29, 1795,
Section 3, 1 Stat. 414, 415)
Sorry, Birfoonlady, but the words, "natural-born" in the naturalization Act of 1795 were included as a COPY ERROR. As such, your quote is WORTHLESS. Your conclusion is based on an error.

“Mr. James Madison, who had been a member of the Constitutional Convention and participated in the drafting of the terms of eligibility for the President, was a member of the Committee of the House, together with Samuel Dexter of Massachusetts and Thomas A. Carnes of Georgia when the matter of the uniform naturalization act was considered in 1795. Here the false inference which such language might suggest with regard to the President was noted, and the Committee sponsored a new naturalization bill which deleted the term ‘natural-born’ from the Act of 1795.(1 Stat 414). The same error was never repeated in any subsequent naturalization act.”
See p 15877 Congressional Record, 1967.

Hee hee hee!

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#88544 Jul 1, 2012
113 Cong. Rec. 15,876, 15,877.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#88545 Jul 1, 2012
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why, have the Heritage Foundation, Romney and the Republicans now abandoned their own plan now that Obama has actually passed it? Or were they always bull shiting us about it from the start?
UR right, the were bullshitting all along. President Obama called their bluff. Now the elephants hope everyone has Alzheimer's.
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
I am sure the hospitals are ecstatic. They didn't have to pay for the freeloaders anyway. Have you never heard of H-cap?
So what about the little guy who is forced to buy insurance even if they don't use conventional medicine?
Yes I know someday everyone will need to use some type of medical facility.
But what if they don't. What if they are in excellent health and then all of a sudden they get run over by a truck and never see a hospital or a doctor? Maybe their surviving relatives should be reimbursed for all that unused insurance money. Why didn't Obama create something like that for the people instead of creating what he did for the insurance companies and the government?
The informer

Tampa, FL

#88546 Jul 1, 2012
A good read for you pathetic Communist Obots:

http://noiri.blogspot.ca/2012/07/real-yes-rea...

The real truth about your faux messiah.
The informer

Tampa, FL

#88547 Jul 1, 2012
nebka wrote:
For those who say Global Warming is false read this.
http://news.yahoo.com/rise-sea-level-cant-sto...
Moron...Take you fake science to some climate thread.
You are obviously too stupid to even know where to post your drivel.

No one says that global warming is not real. We say that AGW is not real.
Sea levels, as well as climate change have ALWAYS been a part of life on Earth.
Educate yourself. Study the MWP, then the LIA (little ice age).
Frank

Spokane, WA

#88548 Jul 1, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Has nothing to do with persons born in the US.
UR on the wrong page, BirfoonLady.
Barack Obama Sr was never a citizen of The United States of America,not even for one day.
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Frank

Spokane, WA

#88550 Jul 1, 2012
nebka wrote:
For those who say Global Warming is false read this.
http://news.yahoo.com/rise-sea-level-cant-sto...
Nature caused or caused by higher powers is not man caused global warming. Man is very small compared to the universe. No one has ever said that there is not such thing as change in weather or change in climate. No one man on Earth is more powerful than the Sun or even the moon,or the many other factors that contribute to climate change. Man can not change the revolution or rotation of the Earth.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#88551 Jul 1, 2012
Cancer on the pResidency wrote:
<quoted text>
The microfiche roll containing Obama's copy is the only thing that can prove that an original LFBC for Obama ever existed.
There is no such thing as a microfiche roll, BirfoonBoy.

And, BTW, B&W photocopiers don't use white toner either.

Loser.
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
You’d probably rather see the original BC JS. What’s your obsession with microfilm? Every step of the process can be forged anyway through birfoon twilight zone flights. It became evident a long time ago the birfoon is incapable of dealing with reality when it comes to Obama.

“wisdom”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#88552 Jul 1, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
So now you edit. Replace "you" with "I". God, how embarrassing for a wife to have a birther husband, for children to have a birther father, and for a birther's parents who probably died of shame. How is must suck to be a puerile excuse of a man.
I'm not a birther, Jock Strap, but you don't actually know where you were born, let alone Obumbles.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#88553 Jul 1, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
ambitious foreigners cannot intrigue for the office ...."
The BIG 0...IS one...
BORN of a "foreign national".....
Got a clue yet?
Sorry, BirfoonLady, you cited Joseph Story.

BirfoonLady: "then LQQK at Justice Story's after DEBATE!"

"As the President is required to be a native citizen of the United States, ambitious foreigners cannot intrigue for the office ...."

How's the crow tasting?
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
BirfoonLady: "then LQQK at Justice Story's after DEBATE!"
From Joseph Story, as linked to by BirfoonLady:
"As the President is required to be a native citizen of the United States, ambitious foreigners cannot intrigue for the office ...."
Got a clue yet?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#88554 Jul 1, 2012
American Lady wrote:
University of Hawaii
In September 1959, Obama Sr. enrolled at the University of Hawaii at Manoa in Honolulu as the university's first African foreign student.
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Entering the U.S.- Documents required for Foreign Nationals (International Travelers)
https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/...
Huh?

So what?

“wisdom”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#88555 Jul 1, 2012
nebka wrote:
<quoted text>
Because as long as i can remember it has never been 100 at 8 pm and i am 48 years old.
I've been around a bit longer than you, Peaches, the one thing I've learned about the weather is it's totally unpredictable. I've also learned it goes in cycles. What we really need to be concerned about is another Ice Age, don't you agree?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#88556 Jul 1, 2012
American Lady wrote:
Being a native-born citizen is not exactly the same as the principle of jus soli
(that is, citizenship due to place of birth).
For example, a person born in Japan to Japanese parent(s) is clearly a native-born citizen of Japan.
However, such a person became a citizen of Japan due to jus sanguinis (that is, citizenship through descent)
as Japan does not recognize the principle of jus soli.
In many countries (such as Japan), being native-born is not sufficient to confer citizenship.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Nat...
Sorry, BirfoonLady, the United States is not Japan.

In this country jus soli is law.

"[W]e find that the Constitution has recognized
the general principle of public law, that allegiance
and citizenship depend on the place of birth.‘
This doctrine of citizenship by reason of place of
birth is spoken of by the writers on the subject as
the jus soli or common law doctrine."
Perkins v. Elg, 99 F.2d 408, 410 (App.D.C. 1938)
modified and affirmed, 307 U.S. 325 (1939).
(Internal citation omitted.)

Got any more incoherent rants and impertinent citations?

“wisdom”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#88557 Jul 1, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
It's ok, western...oops, Just Sayin'. Keep reading those tabloid headlines while in queue at supermarket. And , ha ha, too cheap to buy one, reads hate headlines, that alone is sufficient.
How blissful you must be.
Only one of me, Jock Itch, and yes today was quite blissful, mostly due to my girlfriend who treats me like the king I should be. Does your boyfriend treat you like the Queen you are? LOL

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