Gun Laws Targeted After Teen Killing

just another guy wrote:

Arrests are not the same as convictions.

just another guy wrote:

And the state is never wrong? What really matter is what a jury of your peers says.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Taking diversion programs doesn't make you innocent.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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The prosecutor in this case has the highest conviction rate in the state of Florida in counties with 500,000+.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Taking diversion programs doesn't make you innocent.

just another guy wrote:

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It also does not mean you are guilty.

just another guy wrote:

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But it has not even gone to trial yet. You are jumping the gun, pun intended.

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, they do. A person is innocent until proved guilty in a court of law, therefore since no court of law proved a person guilty, who took part in a diversion program, they are innocent.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Actually a person can be found "not guilty" but is not only not not innocent, the "not guilty" person has to go back to the court to have the "not guilty"" verdict "expunged"" from the record.
Once charged, you are not ever 'innocent' again.
And you may think that it is as if (as far as the state is concerned) it never happened (even when it never happened)- but it tisn't.

Richard_ wrote:

I did a diversion after it was offered by the state for two class a misdemeanors, the record of it is public and if I find any employer has discriminated against me,

Richard_ wrote:

It won't be that hard to find the employer's record of having searched the state website.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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There is proof that Zimmerman was stalking Martin, and that Zimmerman shot the unarmed boy who was walking back from the store armed with a bag of Skittles.
Zimmerman: history of arrests, a cop wannabe who got fired as a renta cop for his temper.

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, they do. A person is innocent until proved guilty in a court of law, therefore since no court of law proved a person guilty, who took part in a diversion program, they are innocent. A county prosecutor's office offered me a diversion on two Class A misdemeanors, the state evidently didn't want to pursue the matter of some lying, hot head, cop.

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>There's no "also", a person who accepts the offer of the state's diversion program is innocent until proved guilty in a court of law. The mere fact that the state has decided to divert a person from a criminal trial, indicates that even the state doesn't want to find the person guilty. These programs provide the state relief from hot head cops, who have so much time on their hands, they can drum up cases out of thin air with their testilying and what not. These programs also provide the taxpayer with relief from overzelous police officers as well.

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>Are you saying that Mr. Martin had superhuman powers and pulled Mr. Zimmerman out of his vehicle for a beat down? LOL.
The actions of Zimmerman are not the actions sanctioned by national neighborhood watch program directives, designed to keep homeowners and neighborhoods safe from legal liability. It should be interesting to note how the "hood" turns on Zimmerman as their apparent liability comes into view.

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>Anyone who has "LOST" 21 guns, should probably take up a new criminal enterprise.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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There is proof that Zimmerman was stalking Martin, and that Zimmerman shot the unarmed boy who was walking back from the store armed with a bag of Skittles.
Zimmerman: history of arrests, a cop wannabe who got fired as a renta cop for his temper.

okimar wrote:

<quoted text>Your rants over the past weeks defending the dead Thug-in-training Martin have proven to all who read them that you some years back were the waste of what must have been all of 8 minutes of rutting in some dark alley between consenting morons.
Martin backtracked Zimmerman and jumped him in the dark. A typical thug tactic.
Zimmerman was going BACK to his car.
ZIMMERMAN was the one with visible head wounds inflicted by Martin. The only wound on Martin was a gunshot.
Martin was using a SEVERAL hour trip to a local store as an excuse to case future homes to rob.
Martin was a KNOWN juvenile delequent with a penchant for property he did not purchase.
Zimmerman did the State of Florida a favor and saved it untold thousands if not HUNDREDS of thousands of $$$ when he was FORCED to shoot a future career criminal in self defense.
Zimmerman was arrested to placate the Black community because a white/hispanic shot a Black man.
If Martin had been shot by one of his own the Black community wouldn't say a word.
Zimmerman's arrest has become one of politics-not law. Thus Zimmerman has become a political prisoner held illegally,quite in violation of the Constitution.
Zimmerman should be aquitted. If not he will have been sacrificed on the Alter of Black Racism.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Employers are allowed to search state databases.
They are allowed to hire private investigators to check into your background.
A employer who discovers that you have been arrested, been to trial, and found *not guilty* isn't going to say that that was the reason he/she choose to not offer you the job.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Once charged, you are innocent no more, you are found not guilty.
And if you are found not guilty,*you* have to go back to the court and *ask* to have it removed from the "record".
And the state doesn't forget.
Ever.