Colorado Shooting Rekindles Gun Control Debate

Jul 22, 2012 Full story: Roll Call 5,107

Sen. Dianne Feinstein called for increased gun control in the wake of last week's Colorado shooting, saying it may have helped prevent the tragic incident.

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Tray

Iuka, MS

#377 Jul 24, 2012
Janusi wrote:
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Other people kill each other..with what ?? Baloon ?
Someone want to kill other people because there`s so many GUN STORES in the U.S.
How did other people kill each other before guns? Wow you are an idiot. That reply don't even make sense. Knife, poison, lawn dart, hammer, rock, fire, bomb, water, stick, ect. ect.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#378 Jul 24, 2012
Colorado Chick wrote:
It's about SAFETY..of our American citizens..WHAT has surfaced here with this tragic event..is that..NOW one more freedom has been taken away..attending a movie theater freely...BUT now security guards in check..the guns do fall into the wrong hands..but to take away the privilege of buying a gun for protection is very wrong...
Not to worry.

Theater owners will find out that a TSA style front door will discourage people from attending and they will stay at home and watch movies on netflix.

People vote with their dollars and theaters that harass their patrons will go out of business.
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“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#380 Jul 24, 2012
wee honeybee wrote:
<quoted text>
The right doesn't want this talked about for good reasons. It's not exploiting, it's trying to fix what's broken. It's not trying to take away guns for personal protection like they want you to believe. Who needs 1,000's of rounds and assault weapons for personal protection?
There's no need for anybody to have AK 47s or any kind of military type weapons, except for law enforcement and the military. The only idiots with the biggest mouths for these type of guns to be sold are the subhuman cults and redneck militias, especially the ones hiding in the deep South, Ozarks, etc........

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#381 Jul 24, 2012
Village Mystery wrote:
How useful could the leftists be to any situation that might need a remedy?
After this shooting most people felt repulsed.
Many people felt repulsed by Holmes.
Some even felt repulsed that Americans were killed and wounded one by one even while the shooter's gun jammed and he had to stop to reload, it seems more than once, yet Americans live in a society where defensive weapons and training are so readily available.
The leftist's and the neo-American Julias' reaction to this horror is to be repulsed by who and what? conservatives, libertarians, law-abiding gunowners, and anyone who does not agree with their political views.
Hmmmm. This is their reaction to any and everything so I ask again, how can the "left" be truly useful to any real problem that presents itself? They are of no use to inner city black youth. They are of no use to the empowerment of women. They are of no use to fighting corruption and abuse of power in government. They are of no use to the "poor" or "middle class".
And not surprisingly, they are no use in preventing the next mass shooting.
Why does everything come down to left and right? Common sense centers somewhere in the middle and it sure would be nice to see a little balance in the US for a chance.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#382 Jul 24, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> How did other people kill each other before guns? Wow you are an idiot. That reply don't even make sense. Knife, poison, lawn dart, hammer, rock, fire, bomb, water, stick, ect. ect.
It would be kinda hard to kill 12 people with a handful of lawn darts.

But yes, I agree that people like to kill other people and will find ways to do it. Maybe instead of handing everyone lawn darts and telling them to go at it, we should try to figure out how to identify dangerous mental illness and take that person off the street before it comes down a shoot-out at the OK corral. That way, everyone stays alive.
Tray

Iuka, MS

#383 Jul 24, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>There's no need for anybody to have AK 47s or any kind of military type weapons, except for law enforcement and the military. The only idiots with the biggest mouths for these type of guns to be sold are the subhuman cults and redneck militias, especially the ones hiding in the deep South, Ozarks, etc........
There is no need for free speech as many people open their mouth and makes fools of themselves. Just how do you plan on keeping law enforcement and the military from becoming corrupt with power and enslaving the citizens as has been proven over and over and over in human history? Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Aphelion

Melbourne, FL

#384 Jul 24, 2012
Perry Logan wrote:
Who would have thought that the distribution of deadly weapons throughout a densely-populated society could possibly backfire?
http://youtu.be/CZTuTOh8MlY
Does Gun Prohibition Work?
Washington D.C. enacted a virtual ban on handguns in 1976. Between 1976 and 1991, Washington D.C.'s homicide rate rose 200%, while the U.S. rate rose 12%.
According to Crime in the United States 2004, second to firearms, knives and cutting instruments were the weapons most frequently used by persons committing homicides in the United States. Offenders employed knives to kill members of the general public more than they used rifles and shotguns combined.
http://www.americanfirearms.org/statistics.ph...
Law

Omaha, NE

#385 Jul 24, 2012
Colorado Chick wrote:
It's about SAFETY..of our American citizens..WHAT has surfaced here with this tragic event..is that..NOW one more freedom has been taken away..attending a movie theater freely...BUT now security guards in check..the guns do fall into the wrong hands..but to take away the privilege of buying a gun for protection is very wrong...
Privilege???
Law

Omaha, NE

#386 Jul 24, 2012
Perry Logan wrote:
Who would have thought that the distribution of deadly weapons throughout a densely-populated society could possibly backfire?
http://youtu.be/CZTuTOh8MlY
Still dong meth I see, Perry.
Tray

Iuka, MS

#387 Jul 24, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
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It would be kinda hard to kill 12 people with a handful of lawn darts.
But yes, I agree that people like to kill other people and will find ways to do it. Maybe instead of handing everyone lawn darts and telling them to go at it, we should try to figure out how to identify dangerous mental illness and take that person off the street before it comes down a shoot-out at the OK corral. That way, everyone stays alive.
How about addressing the issue of why people kill people in the first place and stop wasting time with worthless rantings on how they do it. Hitler killed millions with ovens so should we outlaw ovens or prevent Hitlers from coming to power in the first place?
Law

Omaha, NE

#388 Jul 24, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>There's no need for anybody to have AK 47s or any kind of military type weapons, except for law enforcement and the military. The only idiots with the biggest mouths for these type of guns to be sold are the subhuman cults and redneck militias, especially the ones hiding in the deep South, Ozarks, etc........
No facts to support your claims and no substance other than hand-wringing.

Since: Jan 12

Barboursville, WV

#389 Jul 24, 2012
Law wrote:
<quoted text>
No, it's the left with more government incrementalism
in our lives.
<quoted text>The 2nd Amendment is part of the 'Bill of Rights'...not the 'Bill of Needs'...not the 'Bill of What wee honeybee Says You Need'.
Where there is a right, "need" is not relevant.
Without surfing the web for it, can you define what an "assault weapon" is?
Overkill for personal protection, rapid fire with many rounds.
Weapons you could take into a movie theatre and kill 12 and wound 58 people.

Since: Jan 12

Barboursville, WV

#390 Jul 24, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>There's no need for anybody to have AK 47s or any kind of military type weapons, except for law enforcement and the military. The only idiots with the biggest mouths for these type of guns to be sold are the subhuman cults and redneck militias, especially the ones hiding in the deep South, Ozarks, etc........
That's what we're talking about, not registered personal protection and hunting rifles to put squirrels on the table.
Law

Omaha, NE

#391 Jul 24, 2012
wee honeybee wrote:
<quoted text>
Overkill for personal protection, rapid fire with many rounds.
Mine have nevr killed anyone as has the vast majority.
wee honeybee wrote:
Weapons you could take into a movie theatre and kill 12 and wound 58 people.
That could be just about anything. Ever hear about 'fire'?

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#392 Jul 24, 2012
Nicetry wrote:
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You are an unimaginative Fool. Do you work for the government? If not, I’ll bet they’d hire you to advise them regarding security.
What if the shooter had decided to make an automobile his weapon of choice? How many people waiting in line, outside the theatre, might have been killed if he drove an SUV onto sidewalk at 40 MPH? Idiot!
You’d have had NO control over that insane, evil act. But if just ONE law-abiding citizen in the theater had a gun and CCP, who knows how many lives might have been saved?
How many lives were saved when a 71 year old Florida man shot suspects during Internet cafe robbery a few days ago? We’ll never know.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/19/florida-...
As for leftist hypocrites such as Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rosie O'Donnell, who have armed security and obtain gun permits which “the little people” are able to protect themselves with, I say the sheeple who worship them are free to sacrifice their lives, but how disgusting that it is too often the children of weak-minded fools pay the price of ignorance and cowardice of their parents!
This is the point I was trying to make in my earlier post. Cars, bombs, lawn darts. The weapon of choice doesn't matter. What does matter is the state of mind these people are in when they choose to take out crowds of people.

Since: May 11

Location hidden

#393 Jul 24, 2012
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> How about addressing the issue of why people kill people in the first place and stop wasting time with worthless rantings on how they do it. Hitler killed millions with ovens so should we outlaw ovens or prevent Hitlers from coming to power in the first place?
If you read all my posts, I seem to be the ONLY person here advocating for better access to mental health. Do you know how hard it is to get someone committed to an institution in this country? Or how expensive it is? Thanks to Ronald Reagan.

If the families of some of these shooters would have been able to commit them for psychiatric help, a lot of people might still be alive. Many of the families said that person needed help, but it's next to impossible to get help until it's too late.

How someone commits murder doesn't matter...their victim(s) is still dead. Having better access to mental health could save so much pain and tragedy all around.
Mookie

Lawrenceville, GA

#394 Jul 24, 2012
Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>I guess then O J Simpson is to be the poster child for a sane, loving, non violent black man huh? After he killed his wife, a few years later he finally was put in jail for trying to kill someone else. That is not my definition of a non violent black man. If he was not in jail I suppose he would still be on the golf course looking for his wife's killer, right?
I don't trust white people, I don't hate you but I don't trust you at all. I remember Susan Smith, A white woman who drowned all her children because she wanted to continue an adulterous affair with a guy who wasn't interested in a ready made family, She tried to cover it up by saying a black man stole her car with all her children in it. I look at guys like this clown who was suppose to be soo smart just click out, walk in a theatre and start firing at people for nothing. Guys like Jerry Sandusky, and Jeffery Dahmer ( who ate some of his victims ), Dude whites go postal and do all that kind of shit all the time. I don't deny blacks do a lot of shit that I don't condone, but HOLY SHIT !! Whites do shit that's just not in most blacks DNA to do.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#395 Jul 24, 2012
wee honeybee wrote:
<quoted text>The right doesn't want this talked about for good reasons. It's not exploiting, it's trying to fix what's broken. It's not trying to take away guns for personal protection like they want you to believe. Who needs 1,000's of rounds and assault weapons for personal protection?
Personal protection is not always a one on one endeavor. I need thousands of rounds to remind tyrants that tyranny may not be such a good idea.
Good luck preventing tyranny with your 10 rounds and spitballs.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#396 Jul 24, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>There's no need for anybody to have AK 47s or any kind of military type weapons, except for law enforcement and the military. The only idiots with the biggest mouths for these type of guns to be sold are the subhuman cults and redneck militias, especially the ones hiding in the deep South, Ozarks, etc........
Read the second amendment.
Continue advertising being a target or potential victim. But don't tell the rest of America they should do the same.
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#397 Jul 24, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
All firearm deaths 2010
Number of deaths: 31,347
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.2
Yet more than half of those each year were suicides which means if they didn't have a firearm they would use other means like ginsu knives. Then you would be posting Ginsu knife death statistics and demanding people cut their steaks with spoons.

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