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IRYW wrote: I said that you religious wingnuts are so obsessed with your beliefs that you stop at nothing to push your beliefs on children while they are in public school I as sure you will want to back up any occasion that I have pushed my religious beliefs on another person. You might start with letting everyone know what my religious belief is- so far, according to the NotBots that frequent this forum, I am Jewish or Muslim, or Catholic or absolutely a Jehovah's Witness or a Christian Fundamentalist. Hard to keep track, especially when some of the NotBots assert that I am members of two religions at the same time. Oh, I guess I forgot: Satanist.
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IRYW wrote: How about this one from about two weeks ago: One complaint. 80 million students 100,000 public schools. Happens all the time... COUGH. Meanwhile, in the UK: their law REQUIRES DAILY COLLECTIVE WORSHIP.
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barefoot2626 wrote: <quoted text> Yes, we covered that when you say "all the time" it means to you you may remember that it happened over some period of time since the 1960s Actually you claimed that 'all the time' means frequently. barefoot2626 wrote: <if you were telling the truth, you would have been able to report at least one case of it happening in the 100,000 public schools last week. Not at all. I clearly reminded you that the colloquial expression of 'all the time' was not a statistical claim. You are the delusional one. barefoot2626 wrote: <. And that you could not do. I chose not to. Whether I could or nor remains to be determined. barefoot2626 wrote: <. And then I remind you that collective worship happens EVERY DAY as required by law in the UK. No, collective meetings happen every day in the UK. Those that choose to use the time to worship do so. Those that choose to not worship, do not. Seriously, are you this daft?
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barefoot2626 wrote: <quoted text> I as sure you... English is preferred please... barefoot2626 wrote: < You might start with letting everyone know what my religious belief is- so far, according to the NotBots that frequent this forum, I am Jewish or Muslim, or Catholic or absolutely a Jehovah's Witness or a Christian Fundamentalist. Hard to keep track, especially when some of the NotBots assert that I am members of two religions at the same time. Oh, I guess I forgot: Satanist. If you are afraid to state your beliefs then you will have to live with the assumptions. Rather juvenile in my book.
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IRYW wrote: <quoted text> Actually you claimed that 'all the time' means frequently. And so far out of over 80 million students attending public school this year in the USA, you have found ONE case of one school reading a prayer in a public assembly. One out of 80 million = not frequent.
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IRYW wrote: Not at all. I clearly reminded you that the colloquial expression of 'all the time' was not a statistical claim. You are the delusional one. And I said you were full of sh!t. Another colloquial expression applied to person such as yourself who run their mouth but can't back it up. Apples to apples: the UK requires DAILY collect worship from millions of its school students... and out of 80 million students here, you say it happens "frequently" and have come up with one case.
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IRYW wrote: < No, collective meetings happen every day in the UK. Collective worship is required by law. What part of "required by law" is it that you don't understand? Apples to apples: you ONE case of a student who objects (rightly) to this public prayer: he could just excuse himself from the prayer and stand in the hall, could he not? And this is a once a year thing.
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IRYW wrote: Those that choose to not worship, do not. Seriously, are you this daft? So you have no problem with f undies requiring daily prayer as long as those who chose to not worship do not have to worship? Dope: when I went to school, it was "required" except those who did not want to participate- after the parents went and and objected- had to put their heads down on the desk and ignore the public prayer. And if you were part of the public prayer you had to close your eyes or you'd get smacked in the forehead with the blackboard pointer.
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barefoot2626 wrote: <quoted text> Collective worship is required by law. Fallacy of equivocation. Par for the course.
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barefoot2626 wrote: <quoted text> And so far out of over 80 million students attending public school this year in the USA, you have found ONE case of one school reading a prayer in a public assembly.. No, there are many more. But, as I pointed out earlier, this is not a claim like 'my friend is a magical sky pixie'. All you need to do is google it. Why should I do that for you?
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barefoot2626 wrote: <quoted text> So you have no problem with f undies requiring daily prayer as long as those who chose to not worship do not have to worship? So you have no problem with schools abandoning core curricula to provide instruction in the thousands of religious beliefs that exist today? barefoot2626 wrote: < Dope: when I went to school, it was "required" except those who did not want to participate- after the parents went and and objected- had to put their heads down on the desk and ignore the public prayer. And if you were part of the public prayer you had to close your eyes or you'd get smacked in the forehead with the blackboard pointer. So, when the muslims demand you face east and praise Allah 5 times a day, you are happy to cling to majority rule and pay the consequences?
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barefoot2626 wrote: <.......ONE case of a student who objects (rightly) to this public prayer: he could just excuse himself from the prayer and stand in the hall, could he not? So your argument is that when your constitutional rights are violated, you should 'take it like a man' and let it go? Got it.
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IRYW wrote: <quoted text> Fallacy of equivocation. Par for the course. Follow the tread, dumbphuqe.
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IRYW wrote: <quoted text> No, there are many more. There are not many more, you said it happened all the time. Back it up. There are 80- million students who do not have religion pushed in their face like it is in the UK- WHERE COLLECTIVE WORSHIP IS REQUIRED BY LAW- where millions have in thrust in their face EVERY DAY. Apples to apples. PS: ALL THE TIME.
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IRYW wrote: <quoted text> So your argument is that when your constitutional rights are violated, you should 'take it like a man' and let it go? Got it. Follow the thread, Dumphuqe. You are the one who is saying the COLLECTIVE WORSHIP REQUIRED BY LAW in the UK is no big deal. Yes: the USA has a CONSTITUTION which prevents this. HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH! I do believe I have mentioned this at least fifty times.
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IRYW wrote: <quoted text> So you have no problem with schools abandoning core curricula I asked you first, and my question was relevant.
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barefoot2626 wrote: <quoted text> There are not many more, you said it happened all the time. Back it up. There are 80- million students who do not have religion pushed in their face like it is in the UK- WHERE COLLECTIVE WORSHIP IS REQUIRED BY LAW- where millions have in thrust in their face EVERY DAY. Apples to apples. PS: ALL THE TIME. You are so cute when you are demented. Your handlers must be so proud.......
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IRYW wrote: <quoted text> So you have no problem with schools abandoning core curricula to provide instruction in the thousands of religious belief PS: You will note the EXACT QUOTE of the UK law (posted more than once) doesn't cover thousands of religious 'belief', it demands the worship be wholly or mainly of a Christian character.
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IRYW wrote: So, when the muslims demand you face east and praise Allah 5 times a day, you are happy to cling to majority rule and pay the consequences? Sweetums: you are the one that doesn't seem to have a problem with collective worship.
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