U.S. to Halt Cremation of Troops at Animal Crematorium

How many of you have served as part of the funeral detail in a military funeral for a soldier killed in combat?

I have. You go through hours of training, you are graded. You receive instructions on how to deal with people breaking down, crying, reporters, demonstrators, etc.

At the funeral, a senior officer attends and you are graded afterwards. A senior officer or NCO is in constant attendance with the family.

This crematorium should have disclosed that it took animals before it tried to get a contract. The error was caught in time and corrective measures were taken.

Remember Larry Lawrence? Clinton had him buried in Arlington under a headstone which listed falsified service. The White House admitted they knew of the deception but didn't think it mattered because he was being buried as an ambassador. Clinton attended the Arlington service while the widow (40 years younger than Lawrence) made googly-eyes at Clinton.

Lawrence was removed from Arlington, at the family's request, not at Clinton's orders, when it was all revealed.

Back then, I suggested that Lawrence's plot be officially removed as being part of Arlington so no veteran would ever get a hand-me-down defiled grave from these creeps, and be used to bury dogs. Not military dogs, just strays.

Now I hear all the hollering about Bush treating our military dead like dogs. Clinton treated a con man with a half-a-hooker wife like an honored veteran.

Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>You personally have no problem with burning up the bodies of our war dead in the pet oven?

No more would it bother me than being the one burned after a man like you. Regardless this has never happened and the over site was caught and changed. They pick thousands of businesses to be a back-up for this service, there is no way that you are never going to find out there is one that did not claim the whole truth when they submitted for it. Also 9.9 times out of ten the family picks where these services are held. This is a program that has not been used once to my knowledge. I have been on the Honor Guard for 12 KIA Soldiers and 3 of theme where to be cremated. All 12 of these Soldier's families picked where these services are done at.

Hardtack and water wrote:

How many of you have served as part of the funeral detail in a military funeral for a soldier killed in combat?
I have. You go through hours of training, you are graded. You receive instructions on how to deal with people breaking down, crying, reporters, demonstrators, etc.
At the funeral, a senior officer attends and you are graded afterwards. A senior officer or NCO is in constant attendance with the family.
This crematorium should have disclosed that it took animals before it tried to get a contract. The error was caught in time and corrective measures were taken.
Remember Larry Lawrence? Clinton had him buried in Arlington under a headstone which listed falsified service. The White House admitted they knew of the deception but didn't think it mattered because he was being buried as an ambassador. Clinton attended the Arlington service while the widow (40 years younger than Lawrence) made googly-eyes at Clinton.
Lawrence was removed from Arlington, at the family's request, not at Clinton's orders, when it was all revealed.
Back then, I suggested that Lawrence's plot be officially removed as being part of Arlington so no veteran would ever get a hand-me-down defiled grave from these creeps, and be used to bury dogs. Not military dogs, just strays.
Now I hear all the hollering about Bush treating our military dead like dogs. Clinton treated a con man with a half-a-hooker wife like an honored veteran.

Are you saying it makes it right?

Our government sends them off to die in an obscene war and then we worry about what kind of crematorium was used to dispose of the body.

If you want to be outraged, be outraged at the fact that they are dying because of the incredible ineptness of our Excuetive Branch that continues a war with no clear objective or rational means of pursuing the war.

Be outraged at the President and not the simple bureaucrat who is doing the will of the elected officials and the conservative voter to do it on the cheap.

Bernard wrote:

Our government sends them off to die in an obscene war and then we worry about what kind of crematorium was used to dispose of the body.

You're blaming the soldier and everyone else for the gov's decision. I'm with you on the war in Iraq, but I'm not going to disgrace a soldier and his family by cremating the soldiers body in the same unit stray dogs are placed into.

Now we can do that with Bush. But I'm sure the far right would think that cremating Bush's body in the local ASPCA cremation facility would be "disrespectful".

OneRyder wrote:

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You're blaming the soldier and everyone else for the gov's decision. I'm with you on the war in Iraq, but I'm not going to disgrace a soldier and his family by cremating the soldiers body in the same unit stray dogs are placed into.
Now we can do that with Bush. But I'm sure the far right would think that cremating Bush's body in the local ASPCA cremation facility would be "disrespectful".

First you make a stupid thing more stupid. Allready you add that the pet is a stray. Nowhere has even this spin of a blog where this article comes from state that. Proof the liberals think what they want to think and ignore all facts.

OneRyder wrote:

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You're blaming the soldier and everyone else for the gov's decision. I'm with you on the war in Iraq, but I'm not going to disgrace a soldier and his family by cremating the soldiers body in the same unit stray dogs are placed into.
Now we can do that with Bush. But I'm sure the far right would think that cremating Bush's body in the local ASPCA cremation facility would be "disrespectful".

Do we have to wait until Bush is dead?

Is this story true? They cremated soldiers' bodies at a crematorium for animals? I haven't heard this anywhere on the news? What's the deal? Media, get on the ball, please! The public needs to know this, how our troops are really getting treated!

Pudintain wrote:

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First you make a stupid thing more stupid. Allready you add that the pet is a stray. Nowhere has even this spin of a blog where this article comes from state that. Proof the liberals think what they want to think and ignore all facts.

Ok, so lets not asume strays are cremated there. Lets assume its only well kept dogs who were once owned by wealthy royalty. And the dogs were "kept" better than you and I.

Is that an assumption you can live with? I really don't see the point. You'd rather debate with me about my assuming stray dogs vs non-stray dogs.

Do you have an actually opinion about soldiers being cremated in facility used to cremate dogs of any socio/economic level?

Basic Bushfan diversionary tactics. Attack the opponent, not the subject of the story.

Meanwhile, go correct repubs with the "Hillary is a lesbian" and "Obama is a Muslim" assumptions. I think those hold even less water than my assumption stray dogs are also cremated in the location.

OneRyder wrote:

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Ok, so lets not asume strays are cremated there. Lets assume its only well kept dogs who were once owned by wealthy royalty. And the dogs were "kept" better than you and I.
Is that an assumption you can live with? I really don't see the point. You'd rather debate with me about my assuming stray dogs vs non-stray dogs.
Do you have an actually opinion about soldiers being cremated in facility used to cremate dogs of any socio/economic level?
Basic Bushfan diversionary tactics. Attack the opponent, not the subject of the story.
Meanwhile, go correct repubs with the "Hillary is a lesbian" and "Obama is a Muslim" assumptions. I think those hold even less water than my assumption stray dogs are also cremated in the location.

Did you say Hillary and Obama cremated muslim dogs with our war dead?

OneRyder wrote:

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Ok, so lets not asume strays are cremated there. Lets assume its only well kept dogs who were once owned by wealthy royalty. And the dogs were "kept" better than you and I.
Is that an assumption you can live with? I really don't see the point. You'd rather debate with me about my assuming stray dogs vs non-stray dogs.
Do you have an actually opinion about soldiers being cremated in facility used to cremate dogs of any socio/economic level?
Basic Bushfan diversionary tactics. Attack the opponent, not the subject of the story.
Meanwhile, go correct repubs with the "Hillary is a lesbian" and "Obama is a Muslim" assumptions. I think those hold even less water than my assumption stray dogs are also cremated in the location.

It was never done. There has not been one known US military member that this has happened to. They caught the problem and changed it. If you went to a doctor for a shot and he advertised that he his a human doctor and you got your shot and left. The next day you find out your co-worker takes his cat there for a shot, what would you do. Be mad that he misled you right. Same case only nobody even went there. Also like I said before, the family gets to pick either to have an establishment that they respect to do it or to have Uncle Sam do it. Either way the US still pays. Everything was disclosed.

Lance Winslow wrote:

<quoted text>Did you say Hillary and Obama cremated muslim dogs with our war dead?

Devote Muslims don't own dogs as pets. But why should I explain that. I'm sure if your saw the following:

"Bush has failed to bring Osama to Justice"

you would read

"Liberals Let Osama Have Birthday Party at Chuckie Cheese Near Washington Monument".

So, yeah, thats what I said my dyslexic genuis friend.

OneRyder wrote:

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Devote Muslims don't own dogs as pets. But why should I explain that. I'm sure if your saw the following:
"Bush has failed to bring Osama to Justice"
you would read
"Liberals Let Osama Have Birthday Party at Chuckie Cheese Near Washington Monument".
So, yeah, thats what I said my dyslexic genuis friend.

I am not lysdexic!

Pudintain wrote:

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It was never done. There has not been one known US military member that this has happened to. They caught the problem and changed it. If you went to a doctor for a shot and he advertised that he his a human doctor and you got your shot and left. The next day you find out your co-worker takes his cat there for a shot, what would you do. Be mad that he misled you right. Same case only nobody even went there. Also like I said before, the family gets to pick either to have an establishment that they respect to do it or to have Uncle Sam do it. Either way the US still pays. Everything was disclosed.

i smell limbaugh or hanity in this defense....

bob law wrote:

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i smell limbaugh or hanity in this defense....

It is the fact.

As a veteran and family man I am not happy with the thought of either a serviceman/woman or any one of my family being treated in such a way. But, I am sure there are a lot more mitigating circumstances that we as the general populous will never know. In any event it has ALWAYS been the LEFT who wants to cut the military budget and spending. That being said I wouldn't be too horribly surprised if this wasn't the work of our amazing current speaker of the house and her cronies.

I am one United states dweller who be Caucasian, female and who agrees entirely with your statements. We are not all like the criminals who have hijacked the government. I wish the best for Iraq and Iran. But by all means complain and don't stop. I won't either.

Moiz Qidwai wrote:

After reading most of the comments, let me say, that according to the theory of evolution, we are also a form of animal, so basically there should be no difference to those who belive in that absurd theory.
Now as per those, who beleive that man is created by God and is different from the animals, then it is disrespectful, but consider it in another light, These soldiers were fighting an illegal war, they had no right to be either in Iraq or Afghansitan, so their actions there were no better than an animal, so what if they got the same treatment.
As for as Adminsitration is concerned, they sent them to do dog's work there, what if they are treated like one. By any standards they are more concerned about the living and injured soldiers than the dead ones!!!
Can any one remember, how many times the Bush Administration had to aplogise to nation and the world during this eight years of so called War o Terror?

As my husband just had his VA benefits cut due to the CURRENT administration, I don't think left or right has anything to do with it. It is more expediency.

Johnny Rocket wrote:

As a veteran and family man I am not happy with the thought of either a serviceman/woman or any one of my family being treated in such a way. But, I am sure there are a lot more mitigating circumstances that we as the general populous will never know. In any event it has ALWAYS been the LEFT who wants to cut the military budget and spending. That being said I wouldn't be too horribly surprised if this wasn't the work of our amazing current speaker of the house and her cronies.

I find it hysterically funny people are up in arms about this. First of all, it isn't an animal crematorium, it is a crematorium that services both humans and pets. Being a vet myself, I have absolutely NO problem being put in an oven where animals have been cremated. Not like I'm going to get fleas and if I did...how Egyptian, friends to go with my body on it's journey. Besides, I would be more offended being placed in a crematorium where pedophiles and sex offenders are cremated than an animal. And according to those sites where you can type in a zip code and see all of the sex offenders near you...the chances of you following something "disgusting" in is too great.:-/

And if my remains got mixed up with Fido, guess what, there are worse things you could get mixed up with.

I can't believe people would bother with this level of speciesism. What a bunch of claptrap. These are the same idiots that think giving a military award to an animal is "degrading" to servicemen and women. I'm sorry, if a dog is responsible for saving a fellow service person's life or a pigeon flew a critical message that saved one or many lives, they are no less important to the effort. Animals are NOT equipment.

Support our troops give them something better to look forward to than an animal free crematorium...like a ticket home alive.

OneRyder wrote:

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Ok, so lets not asume strays are cremated there. Lets assume its only well kept dogs who were once owned by wealthy royalty. And the dogs were "kept" better than you and I.
Is that an assumption you can live with? I really don't see the point. You'd rather debate with me about my assuming stray dogs vs non-stray dogs.
Do you have an actually opinion about soldiers being cremated in facility used to cremate dogs of any socio/economic level?
Basic Bushfan diversionary tactics. Attack the opponent, not the subject of the story.
Meanwhile, go correct repubs with the "Hillary is a lesbian" and "Obama is a Muslim" assumptions. I think those hold even less water than my assumption stray dogs are also cremated in the location.