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America Is Not The Same wrote:

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If you had a 1/2 brain you would do research on what is going on in congress. There is a TV channel that airs what the senate and house are proposing.But then again may be you don't have a TV.
If you don' have television GOOGLE IT
Bills being healed up in the Senate or Bills that were submitted By Republicans and are on hold.
Why are Liberals so clueless and uneducated All Liberals do is spin the truth and blame others for their shortcomings.
DO THE RESEARCH AMERICA IS AT STAKE WITH ODUMBO

LOL ....I have 3/4 of a brain thank you very much and have better things to do than watch sessions of congress.. Like work, raise my kids,and be productive... Funny you fail to mention what exactly these great "propsals" are .Or that the Retardicans have filibustered and killed ALL of the proposals that have anything to do with job creation. Including a bill that would give tax credit for keeping jobs in this country. I know that is a bad idea to you Retardicans, but to the rest of the country it would have been pretty nice. But when the only stated goal of the Retardican party is to destroy this country for political gain it isn't much of a surprise....

Son of SickNTired wrote:

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You are so wrong.. The Canadian health care system is quite good. People die in emergancy rooms here far more than they do in Canada.. I know many people that live in Canada and they have no complaints about their healthcare..
Remember this folks.. The US is the ONLY industrialized country in the entire world that has for profit health insurance providers.. In the other countries it is illegal for a company to make a profit on health insurance...
The highest paid CEO in the US runs a health insurance company... OUR system is a mess.... There is no reason that every single citizen in this country can not have health care.. No reason at all.....

You should move their and write back to us your experience first hand, and to why all those countries are going bankrupt trying to keep up with entitlements.

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Son of SickNTired wrote:

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LOL ....I have 3/4 of a brain thank you very much and have better things to do than watch sessions of congress.. Like work, raise my kids,and be productive... Funny you fail to mention what exactly these great "propsals" are .Or that the Retardicans have filibustered and killed ALL of the proposals that have anything to do with job creation. Including a bill that would give tax credit for keeping jobs in this country. I know that is a bad idea to you Retardicans, but to the rest of the country it would have been pretty nice. But when the only stated goal of the Retardican party is to destroy this country for political gain it isn't much of a surprise....

What are Obama's great proposals.......

Skip the falsehoods, Mr. President, and give us a plan

By Dana Milbank, Published: June 14The Washington Post
I had high hopes for President Obama’s speech on the economy. But instead of going to Ohio on Thursday with a compelling plan for the future, the president gave Americans a falsehood wrapped in a fallacy.
The falsehood is that he has been serious about cutting government spending. The fallacy is that this election will be some sort of referendum that will break the logjam in Washington.

Fallacy first.“Both parties have laid out their policies on the table for all to see,” Obama said.“What’s holding us back is a stalemate in Washington between two fundamentally different views of which direction America should take. And this election is your chance to break that stalemate.”

He’s right about the stalemate. But he’s absolutely wrong that November offers an opportunity to break it. No scenario shows either party with a chance of amassing a solid governing majority of the sort Obama had when he took office. The way to break the stalemate is through compromise, not conquest.

And that leads to the falsehood. Despite his claim that “both parties have laid out their policies on the table,” Obama has made no serious proposal to fix the runaway entitlement programs that threaten to swamp the government’s finances.

“My own deficit plan would strengthen Medicare and Medicaid for the long haul by slowing the growth of health-care costs — not shifting them to seniors and vulnerable families,” Obama said.“And my plan would reduce our yearly domestic spending to its lowest level as a share of the economy in nearly 60 years.”
That’s incorrect. As Politifact has pointed out, Obama’s claim that he would reduce annual domestic spending to a percentage of gross domestic product not seen in 60 years is true only if you don’t count the enormous spending on programs such as Medicare.(Obama presumably means he would cut domestic discretionary spending to a 60-year low, a lesser boast.)

Of more concern is Obama’s nonsensical claim that he has a deficit plan that would strengthen Medicare for the long haul. He has called for doubling Medicare spending over the next 10 years, to nearly $1 trillion in 2022. His cuts in the rate of growth amount to just a few percentage points. As The Post’s Lori Montgomery has reported, the president’s 2013 budget marked “the second year in a row Obama has ignored calls to restructure Social Security and Medicare entitlement programs.”

Nothing in Obama’s speech came close to a proposal to fix the debt problem; he dealt with that only at the end of the speech — largely by complaining about Republicans’ refusal to consider higher taxes on the wealthy.

Son of SickNTired wrote:

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You are so wrong.. The Canadian health care system is quite good. People die in emergancy rooms here far more than they do in Canada.. I know many people that live in Canada and they have no complaints about their healthcare..

Remember this folks.. The US is the ONLY industrialized country in the entire world that has for profit health insurance providers.. In the other countries it is illegal for a company to make a profit on health insurance...

The highest paid CEO in the US runs a health insurance company... OUR system is a mess.... There is no reason that every single citizen in this country can not have health care.. No reason at all.....

Obviously people die in the emergency room. The question is what was the cause? Their injury being too severe or because they waited for over 24 hours before they could be treated.

Health Care costs are high because of the federal governments intrusion into it.

There is a free health care program for the poor it's called Medicaid.

If a hospital isn't concerned about profit then why should they invest in buying some of that expensive life saving equipment?
Why would a company want to make cutting edge life saving equipment if they won't make money on it?
Where do you think the quality of care will be when there is no more profit motive in America's healthcare industry.
Those life saving medical devices aren't developed anywhere in the world that has government health care.

There are so many many things wrong with government run health care.

I can't believe liberals, so concerned about personal freedom, can't see the implications.

It's not about health care at all. It's about control. Control freak liberals are insatiable.

Ferrerman wrote:

<quoted text>Of course you are. Internet republicans are all either millionaires or ex-military. Sometimes both. The prerequisite is that you people have to know how to make money or know how to kill...with extreme...prejudice. It's a given. I've come to expect it.

Extreme prejudice?

Your pathetic

Ferrerman wrote:

<quoted text>Of course you are. Internet republicans are all either millionaires or ex-military. Sometimes both. The prerequisite is that you people have to know how to make money or know how to kill...with extreme...prejudice. It's a given. I've come to expect it.

I'm sorry I shouldn't have said that

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>You should move their and write back to us your experience first hand, and to why all those countries are going bankrupt trying to keep up with entitlements.

I should move their what?

Canada is doing quite fine as are Germany, France, Italy, and most of Latin America.

Kolyma wrote:

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I'm sorry I shouldn't have said that

A contraction of "you are" would seem to have been in order. I guess grammar is the domain of Naval officers. Drop and give me twenty!

Son of SickNTired wrote:

<quoted text>Bush's good years were due to the surplus and good economy that Clinton gave him.. Thats how that works.. Takes a little time for things to change.... But he effed it up.. But thats what Retardicans do well.. Spend spend spend.. And Take take take....

Bush entered the presidency in a recession. The dot com bubble burst when Clinton was leaving office.

But Bush, unlike Obama, didn't blame his predecessor, or like Obama made things worse. Bush fixed the failing economy. He did it again after 9/11. The recession after 9/11 was terrible and Bush didn't exacerbate that problem either.

And that surplus was due to a republican congress not Clinton.

Another liberal lie

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Which of those jobs works for the government.....none. The private sector hires and creates jobs. The government creates the enviroment to create of as in Obama's case kill jobs by over regulating.

More BULLSH!T by one of the Koch-sucking most ignorant BALD FACED LIARS. I stand by my post:
You mean those cops aren't don't really have a job? The food inspectors don't have a job?
Think all those internet jobs would have been created had the government not inventing the inter net? Think Big Pharma would have all those manufacturing and sales jobs if the government wasn't doing the basic research? Disney empire would have been nearly as successful if the Interstates and airports hadn't been built?
Think the companies that make, all those traffic ticket forms, sells all the paper clips, computers, furniture etc need for the government to function would be as successful or employee near as many people without the government?
"The government can't just create jobs." What moronic Reich-wing BULLSH!T.

FORMER ROMNEY ADVISER: REPUBLICANS ARE ‘ROOTING AGAINST THE ECONOMY’

Rob Gray, a senior adviser on Romney’s gubernatorial campaign, is a Republican media strategist who owns Gray Media, which lists an assortment of Republican officials among its past clients....

Appearing on Boston’s Fox 25 news channel this morning, Gray said he bought the idea that congressional Republicans were “rooting against the economy somewhat” because they believed “short-term pain” between now and November would be better than four more years under Obama:

HOST: Plenty of pundits, Rob, are suggesting that GOP lawmakers might be dragging their heels when it comes to trying to turn it around in fears that it might actually help the president. Are you buying that?

GRAY: Well, I’m not buying that they’re dragging their heels. I am buying that they’re rooting against the economy somewhat because they think that the short-term pain of, you know, the next four months is much better than having additional four years of pain under Obama. They believe the government should spend less and that they have better economic ideas than the president does. So, you know, if we have to suffer between now and November to get a better president for four years, they’re all for it.

Watch it: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/14/5...

Son of SickNTired wrote:

<quoted text>Bush's good years were due to the surplus and good economy that Clinton gave him.. Thats how that works.. Takes a little time for things to change.... But he effed it up.. But thats what Retardicans do well.. Spend spend spend.. And Take take take....

What policies did Clinton spearhead to create a fiscal year budget surplus?

If its a good thing Clinton balanced the
Budget them why aren't you demanding it of BooBoo? Obama

Son of SickNTired wrote:

<quoted text>LOL..Revisionist.... 30 proposals of what i wonder? More tax breaks for the "job creators"? There has never been a balanced budget.. Thus the deficit.. I'd say nice try but it wasn't... I think you should catch up but I don't think you are capapble or really want to. Turn off Faux News and Bimbaugh/ Hammity and put down the Kool-Aid...

There have been a plethora of Jon creating bills passed in the house of representatives but Harry Reid won't even bring them up for debate, let alone a vote.

Why???
Is it so Democrats can blame? It's pretty much all they have.
Blame Bush
Blame a do nothing congress
Blame some one else
It's all the democrats have

That's jobs not jon. I need to do better at correcting my iPhone auto correct.

Kolyma wrote:

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There have been a plethora of Jon creating bills passed in the house of representatives but Harry Reid won't even bring them up for debate, let alone a vote.
Why???
Is it so Democrats can blame? It's pretty much all they have.
Blame Bush
Blame a do nothing congress
Blame some one else
It's all the democrats have

you know they keep attaching that keystone thing to everything, maybe that's the problem (?)
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perhaps they should put that aside until Romney gets elected, because it would seem that the democrats won't pass anything that has that pipeline attached to it.

PlacitasRoy wrote:

<quoted text>More BULLSH!T by one of the Koch-sucking most ignorant BALD FACED LIARS. I stand by my post:
You mean those cops aren't don't really have a job? The food inspectors don't have a job?
Think all those internet jobs would have been created had the government not inventing the inter net? Think Big Pharma would have all those manufacturing and sales jobs if the government wasn't doing the basic research? Disney empire would have been nearly as successful if the Interstates and airports hadn't been built?
Think the companies that make, all those traffic ticket forms, sells all the paper clips, computers, furniture etc need for the government to function would be as successful or employee near as many people without the government?
"The government can't just create jobs." What moronic Reich-wing BULLSH!T.

Disney, big Pharma and all tax payers paid for that road in the form of taxes.

No one is suggesting there is no place for government.

The Constitution defines what the government's obligations are. If its not enough than Amend the Constitution.

PlacitasRoy wrote:

FORMER ROMNEY ADVISER: REPUBLICANS ARE ‘ROOTING AGAINST THE ECONOMY’

Rob Gray, a senior adviser on RomneyÂ’s gubernatorial campaign, is a Republican media strategist who owns Gray Media, which lists an assortment of Republican officials among its past clients....

Appearing on Boston’s Fox 25 news channel this morning, Gray said he bought the idea that congressional Republicans were “rooting against the economy somewhat” because they believed “short-term pain” between now and November would be better than four more years under Obama:

HOST: Plenty of pundits, Rob, are suggesting that GOP lawmakers might be dragging their heels when it comes to trying to turn it around in fears that it might actually help the president. Are you buying that?

GRAY: Well, IÂ’m not buying that theyÂ’re dragging their heels. I am buying that theyÂ’re rooting against the economy somewhat because they think that the short-term pain of, you know, the next four months is much better than having additional four years of pain under Obama. They believe the government should spend less and that they have better economic ideas than the president does. So, you know, if we have to suffer between now and November to get a better president for four years, theyÂ’re all for it.

Watch it: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/14/5...

Fox Lies?

It's amusing how truth that hurts is so easily called a lie by liberals

anneutral wrote:

<quoted text>you know they keep attaching that keystone thing to everything, maybe that's the problem (?)
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perhaps they should put that aside until Romney gets elected, because it would seem that the democrats won't pass anything that has that pipeline attached to it.

well it will create to many jobs. Many more people won't need government handouts and that's a bad thing for democrats.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>The problem is your NYC numbers don't include a million illegals.

90% of them brought in by Wackenhut for rightwing prostitution rings.