Your town. Your news. Your take.

Local News: Los Angeles, CA 

 | 

Sign Up

 | 

Sign In

 
Advertisment
US Politics

Jun 2, 2008

Obama Takes on Dobbs, Limbaugh

Some of those who rail against illegal immigration can dish it out but they can't take it. Since most illegal immigrants come from Mexico or other parts of Latin America, critics sometimes say the sort of crude things that give the debate its anti-Latino flavor. But call them on it and do they ever get defensive.

Read All 598 Comments

Comments

Showing posts 1 - 20 of 598
« prev | next »
Go to last post | Jump to page:
American Voter

Cerulean, KY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#1
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

25

24

21

All bullies can dish it out but not take it. Call them on their lies and you get one of two responses:

1) Lies and insults
2) Lies and a character attack

At heart, they are all scared little babies hiding under the bed, afraid that the big, bad (insert object of hatred here) is going to come and get them, and wishing Daddy would come home.

Of course, then there are the sociopaths like Bush and the majority of the GOP. They yell just for the sense of power they get when others respond. I have a feeling that most of the haters on this board are of that type.

It would be funny if it weren't my country at stake.

By the way, the national hate group watchdog, the Southern Poverty Law Center, lists Dobbs as a professional bigot and propagandist.

Obama is right to take them on and call them out. I am proud to be a Democrat!
tell the truth

Indianapolis, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#2
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

17

12

8

American Voter wrote:
All bullies can dish it out but not take it. Call them on their lies and you get one of two responses:
1) Lies and insults
2) Lies and a character attack
At heart, they are all scared little babies hiding under the bed, afraid that the big, bad (insert object of hatred here) is going to come and get them, and wishing Daddy would come home.
Of course, then there are the sociopaths like Bush and the majority of the GOP. They yell just for the sense of power they get when others respond. I have a feeling that most of the haters on this board are of that type.
It would be funny if it weren't my country at stake.
By the way, the national hate group watchdog, the Southern Poverty Law Center, lists Dobbs as a professional bigot and propagandist.
Obama is right to take them on and call them out. I am proud to be a Democrat!
You go, grandmom! I agree! It's about time someone had the guts to take it straight to those hate-mongers.
donkeyman

Klamath Falls, OR

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#3
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

26

15

4

so when is obama going to appear on dobbs and rushs show and show us how brave of a democrat he is?
Jake

AOL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#4
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

3

2

1

Wow Lou Dobbs has been running down Hilary and up lifting Obama way to go Obama show Lou how much you appreaciate his help.
JCD

“286,687 MORE VOTES THAN OBAMA!”

Joined: Jan 13, 2008

Comments: 1427

FORCE DNC CONVENTION VOTE NOW

ISP: Kennesaw, GA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#5
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

27

15

9

We have a problem in the Atlanta area where many illegal immigrants are not licensed. My neighbor was involved in an accident with an illegal immigrant. The paperwork was a mess and he had to file against his own insurance since the illegal alien was not insured. Worse, the alien skipped back to his home country when the court date came up.

There is nothing wrong with America controlling its borders, which it has failed to do over the last 40 years. Mexico does not extend the same courtesies to its illegal immigrants that we show to theirs.

Mexico is NOT a friend of the US.
Lance Winslow

Palm Desert, CA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#6
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

23

12

9

Is Obama a liar?

1.) Selma Got Me Born - WRONG, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - WRONG, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - WRONG, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - WRONG, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - WRONG, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times:'I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith,' Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya .' Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - WRONG, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka'(from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - WRONG, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - WRONG, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - WRONG, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - WRONG, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
Lance Winslow

Palm Desert, CA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#7
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

16

9

7

Obama simply mispoke?

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - WRONG, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran , will not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group 'supports Obama's foreign policy vision'.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - WRONG, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

3.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - WRONG, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - WRONG, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - WRONG, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - WRONG, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - WRONG, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - WRONG, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - WRONG, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - WRONG, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - WRONG, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
Char

Mesa, AZ

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#9
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

11

10

3

American Voter wrote:
All bullies can dish it out but not take it. Call them on their lies and you get one of two responses:
1) Lies and insults
2) Lies and a character attack
At heart, they are all scared little babies hiding under the bed, afraid that the big, bad (insert object of hatred here) is going to come and get them, and wishing Daddy would come home.
Of course, then there are the sociopaths like Bush and the majority of the GOP. They yell just for the sense of power they get when others respond. I have a feeling that most of the haters on this board are of that type.
It would be funny if it weren't my country at stake.
By the way, the national hate group watchdog, the Southern Poverty Law Center, lists Dobbs as a professional bigot and propagandist.
Obama is right to take them on and call them out. I am proud to be a Democrat!
What lies? Do you not know what illegal means? What are smoking? We are a nation of laws or we are not. This has nothing to do with hatred or the color of one's skin. Stop hiding a starting facing up to the truth, we are being invaded from south of the border. Democrat or Republican I do not care as long as the problem is resolved.
Char

Mesa, AZ

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#10
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

9

9

3

donkeyman wrote:
so when is obama going to appear on dobbs and rushs show and show us how brave of a democrat he is?
Obama is all talk and no do. He does not even walk his own talk.

Joined: Dec 8, 2006

Comments: 9748

NorCal

ISP: Berkeley, CA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#11
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

8

5

4

donkeyman wrote:
so when is obama going to appear on dobbs and rushs show and show us how brave of a democrat he is?
Why would he waste his time? What good reason would he have to fuel the undemocratic workings of operation chaos or provide motivation for Lou Dobb's choirboys. No one who would vote for him listens to or watches either show and voluntarily walking into a situation of open hostility is a wate of time.
Lilypad

New Orleans, LA

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#12
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

10

4

4

Lance Winslow wrote:
Is Obama a liar?
1.) Selma Got Me Born - WRONG, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - WRONG, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - WRONG, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - WRONG, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - WRONG, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times:'I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith,' Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya .' Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - WRONG, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka'(from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - WRONG, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - WRONG, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - WRONG, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - WRONG, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
You,Sir are my hero!
REG

AOL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#13
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

3

2

2

-- With 99 percent of the precincts reporting, the Puerto Rico vote count showed Clinton with 261,916 votes, or 68 percent, to Obama's 120,929, or 32 percent.--

Another Obama blowout loss. The rules committee decided yesterday, that
Florida counts as voted. Hillary is now AHEAD by 36,000 total votes, and
that EXCLUDES HER WIN IN MICHIGAN.

She will need close finishes Tuesday, then she can rightfully claim more total
votes.

QUIT?!! Hardly.

Let's see Obama fight her off in the summer media war, with fewer votes
and losing by 10 points to McSame, while Hillary leads McSame. Supers
can switch at any time, and by August - MAY HAVE TO. Obama is a
race-unity hypocrite and Americans (not primary Democrats), know it.

Remember where you read it. If Obama finishes with fewer votes, he
will be in trouble by August. Bookmark it.

-
REG

AOL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#14
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

4

4

4

OK ladies - Hillary is now AHEAD BY 36,000 total votes, even
excluding Michigan.

If you are ready to demand that Supers honor that, or you will vote
McCain, read and sign at;

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Nobama

-
Cheeze Whiz

Riverview, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#15
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

3

2

1

Cmon now... Mr. Uniter... I would like to see you demonstrate how you focus on the things that unite us... as opposed to those things that divide us.

Yes we *could*... Yes we *would*... yes we *should*.

If only.
Dr P

Fort Lauderdale, FL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#16
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

4

3

2

Who is the real liar?

Most of America does not live in the Land Of OZ, like some of you appear to be living in. Mr Obama, as the Nation now knows was until recently a member of an Extremely Radical Church with very RACIST views.(There is no defense for the verbal atrocities that have permeated from that pulpit.) The fruit does not fall far from the tree.

It was not the white media or the white voters that provoked the race card issues that were widely publicized and reported. Please wake-up America! Obama wants the World to believe that he had no knowledge of the Pastor’s view or the Church’s radical movement FOR TWENTY YEARS…give me a break! I am from Brooklyn, NY and I have a Bridge to sell you. Can you imagine being married twenty year and not knowing that your wife was really a MAN? That is call denial or outright lie... you choose your poison. A church that teaches hate is not good for anyone! Especially for a Man that may become President.

Obama want us to believe that he did not know! A church is about family, brothers in Christ, followers, children of God, sheep that follow their Pastor and he wants us to believe that someone who is around church friends and Gods family not know what their believe IS?

Nevertheless, I know that people in America have waked and smelled the Coffee that Mr. Obama has brewed for them and it is not Dunkin Donut. It is more like kool Aid! "American Voter" maybe you need to have a cup of “coladito Cubano”(Expresso Coffee) to shake off the brainwash.

Ps Let me know about the Bridge.
TheDude

Raleigh, NC

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#17
Jun 2, 2008
 

Judged:

5

3

2

The only reason why democrats are bending over backwards (and squealing like pigs in the process) for illegal aliens is for future votes and nothing else. Both parties are guilty of the same thing -- power at any cost at the expense of the public. Ask yourself -- have you been happy with the last 10 big issues the government has dealt with over the years.

As we go into the next "Great Depression" can we really afford to keep all those illegal aliens on welfare? Think about the future and wonder why are the Japanese investing millions of dollars in robots?(Clue -- robots work 24/7, while illegals aliens don't)

“make mine a double, please”

Joined: Sep 11, 2007

Comments: 2475

chicago

ISP: Sellersburg, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#18
Jun 3, 2008
 

Judged:

4

4

2

"Obama Takes on Dobbs, Limbaugh"

HARDLY taking them on ... he is merely spewing HIS variety of hate. the rev. wright kind of hate.

quite the "uniter", huh?
the horror of reality

Indianapolis, IN

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#19
Jun 3, 2008
 

Judged:

4

3

1

Pandering to the Latino vote...it makes me sick. The road to the Presidency is paved with Latino voters. This is the REAL god damn America.

Joined: Jul 10, 2007

Comments: 935

Albany, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#20
Jun 3, 2008
 

Judged:

4

4

3

American Voter wrote:
All bullies can dish it out but not take it. Call them on their lies and you get one of two responses:
1) Lies and insults
2) Lies and a character attack
I am proud to be a Democrat!
Barak Obama - 50 Lies and Counting: Posted on Political
forum.com - Elections and Campaigns .Share with friends
1.) Selma Got Me
Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no
effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder
- LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the
Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was
part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever
had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin
Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate
election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in
decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does
her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention,
Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1
man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and
Baraka (from which Barack came) means blessed in that language. Hussein is also
Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced
it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith
for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for
office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were
registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making
faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not
one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In
Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages
of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to
study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs
- LIAR, e xcept for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you
have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our
closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion -
LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of
Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were
just fine.
13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony
has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did,
exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR,
Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never
did, exist.
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you
are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by
then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes
Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have
130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church
groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.
18.) I Was A
Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was
A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.)
Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce
it, change it, or create it.

Joined: Jul 10, 2007

Comments: 935

Albany, NY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#21
Jun 3, 2008
 

Judged:

3

2

2

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass -
LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough
Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering
and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from
which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR,
as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be
released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I
Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group
of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but
yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR,
your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0,
and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader
In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action
on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they
were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow
Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One
Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and
a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough
On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your
good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of I srael.

30.) I Am
Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in
the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were
working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn't Run
Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for
two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you
didn't.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All
Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want
Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the
voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of
time.
Showing posts 1 - 20 of 598
« prev | next »
Go to last post | Jump to page:
Type in your comments to post to the forum
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Other Recent US Politics Discussions
Topic Updated Last By Comments
Firearms retailers group says demand hasn't bee... 2 min American Born 588
Sound Off! (Nov. 18) 2 min Sarcastic Bo... 35
Big 3 bailout hopes dim as Senate, Bush clash 2 min Madaman 11
Obama's victory inspires Blacks, Hispanics in E... 2 min Justice 1
Intense security a force Loop reckons with 2 min MinisterR 108
60 MINUTES INTERVIEW WITH OBAMA: 60 Minutes Oba... 2 min fed up with ... 25
Priest Calls Vote for Obama a Mortal Sin 2 min Done That 689
Related Topix Forums: US News, Entertainment, 2008 Presidential Election, Barack Obama, Television