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Elite U.S. Force Expanding Hunt in Afghanistan

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Secretive branches of the military's Special Operations forces have increased counterterrorism missions against some of the most lethal groups in Afghanistan and, because of their success, plan an even bigger expansion next year, according to American commanders.

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“Ron Paul is my president”

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support our troops.
bring them home.
now.
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Let US Special Ops fight terrorism in Afghanistan so there will never be another 9/11. Support our troops.

Support Michael Yon's reporting from the battlefield. Get the true facts about our war against terrorism:

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/
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Old Angus McCoy from Dundee...
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Brought this Angus to Indiana...
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...beats me why they advertise these Ops.Why don't they go about their business quietly,then the bad guys wont know they are coming,gives THEM time to move out.Just DO the job and tell us about it later!!!
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And those cows with hoof and mouth would break outta those pens and drink these globules of oil in the streams...
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exploit our children for another illegal Orwellian war.

nothing new here.

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This war is dumb. But leave it to the NY Times to alert the enemy.
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scout wrote:
exploit our children for another illegal Orwellian war.
nothing new here.
Save our children from another 9/11. Support our troops.
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Captain O wrote:
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Stupid Monkey boy:
There are no terrorists in Afghanistan except for ISAF and NATO troops...
You are an enemy of the US and all countries at war with Islamic terrorists.
Your support for al-Qaeda and the Taliban is dishonorable and treasonous.
The FBI has you on its No Fly List so we never have to see your treacherous
face in the US.
Your racist comments to me are duly reported to Topix by many people.
Rico

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More propaganda, who's hunting who!?.
Rico

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too droll to troll wrote:
This war is dumb. But leave it to the NY Times to alert the enemy.
These leaks/articles are part of the psy-ops-war, no doubt there are teams hunting, BUT, more often than not, the mouse out-smarts the cat...
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Monk wrote:
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You are an enemy of the US and all countries at war with Islamic terrorists.
Your support for al-Qaeda and the Taliban is dishonorable and treasonous.
The FBI has you on its No Fly List so we never have to see your treacherous
face in the US.
Your racist comments to me are duly reported to Topix by many people.
You're a cracker of Scottish descent, Monkey boy, so there's no use of trying to deceive readers. Also, what makes you think I'm on a No Fly List? Haven't I told you to lay down the crack pipe, Monkey?
And your suggestion that I support terrorists can only be explained by your fried brain due to a history of drug abuse.
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Rico wrote:
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These leaks/articles are part of the psy-ops-war, no doubt there are teams hunting, BUT, more often than not, the mouse out-smarts the cat...
Excellent point, Rico.

Most everyone forgot that the Soviets used the most advanced weaponry at that time to try and conquer Afghanistan, but to no avail. They were merely able to install a puppet regime in Kabul like we Americans have done, but that's about all. Not even the Soviets' Special Ops Forces -- the Spetsnaz -- were able to accomplish anything.

One needs to keep in mind that Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires. For example, the British invaded Afghanistan twice in the 19th century and miserably failed to occupy the country.

Also, nobody seems to be able to remember the disaster of the Vietnam war in which GUERRILLA WARRIORS (the Vietcong) defeated America's modern military and Special Ops forces with its sophisticated armor.

The same is true with regard to Afghanistan:

Our government and military elite obviously haven't grasped that they're fighting a GUERRILLA war against the Afghans and will eventually lose again.

Here's an excerpt from an article related to GUERRILLA warfare as it's been applied by the Sadrists in Iraq.
It also shows us that our troops or Special Ops forces can never win against the Afghan freedom fighters:

1. The first job of a guerrilla army is to stay alive. That's much more important than winning a Western-style victory. The Mahdi Army is intact, ready for the next round. Mao said it best: "Lose men to take land, land and men both lost; lose land and keep men, land can be retaken." In other words, play for the long term and remember that your troops are your biggest asset. Never go for broke.

2. The next most important job of a guerrilla army is to maintain and grow its support in the neighborhood.[...]

3. A guerrilla army facing occupiers with a monopoly on air power is committing suicide by going for total victory on the ground, seizing an entire city or district. Just ask the Sunni, who bunkered up in Fallujah and got slaughtered. By melting back into the civilian population, the Sadrists are now invulnerable to air attack.

4. After four straight days of failure by the Badr Brigade/Iraqi Army, the US was frustrated enough to start committing American ground troops to the assault on Sadr. That would have meant serious casualties for the Mahdi Army, as it did when they took on US forces in 2004.
Not that they're afraid to die for their neighborhood -- Shias? You kidding me?-- but because it would be stupid to die fighting the Americans when everyone in Iraq knows the US just doesn't figure much in the long term.
Sadr's not afraid of us, he and his commanders just see us as a dangerous nuisance, like a chained pit bull they have to step around. Ten years from now, every player in the current game will still be playing this slow, shady game, except one:
the Americans."

http://www.alternet.org/story/81147/...
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Captain O wrote:
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Excellent point, Rico.
Most everyone forgot that the Soviets used the most advanced weaponry at that time to try and conquer Afghanistan, but to no avail. They were merely able to install a puppet regime in Kabul like we Americans have done, but that's about all. Not even the Soviets' Special Ops Forces -- the Spetsnaz -- were able to accomplish anything.
One needs to keep in mind that Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires. For example, the British invaded Afghanistan twice in the 19th century and miserably failed to occupy the country.
Also, nobody seems to be able to remember the disaster of the Vietnam war in which GUERRILLA WARRIORS (the Vietcong) defeated America's modern military and Special Ops forces with its sophisticated armor.
The same is true with regard to Afghanistan:
Our government and military elite obviously haven't grasped that they're fighting a GUERRILLA war against the Afghans and will eventually lose again.
Here's an excerpt from an article related to GUERRILLA warfare as it's been applied by the Sadrists in Iraq.
It also shows us that our troops or Special Ops forces can never win against the Afghan freedom fighters:
1. The first job of a guerrilla army is to stay alive. That's much more important than winning a Western-style victory. The Mahdi Army is intact, ready for the next round. Mao said it best: "Lose men to take land, land and men both lost; lose land and keep men, land can be retaken." In other words, play for the long term and remember that your troops are your biggest asset. Never go for broke.
2. The next most important job of a guerrilla army is to maintain and grow its support in the neighborhood.[...]
3. A guerrilla army facing occupiers with a monopoly on air power is committing suicide by going for total victory on the ground, seizing an entire city or district. Just ask the Sunni, who bunkered up in Fallujah and got slaughtered. By melting back into the civilian population, the Sadrists are now invulnerable to air attack.
4. After four straight days of failure by the Badr Brigade/Iraqi Army, the US was frustrated enough to start committing American ground troops to the assault on Sadr. That would have meant serious casualties for the Mahdi Army, as it did when they took on US forces in 2004.
Not that they're afraid to die for their neighborhood -- Shias? You kidding me?-- but because it would be stupid to die fighting the Americans when everyone in Iraq knows the US just doesn't figure much in the long term.
Sadr's not afraid of us, he and his commanders just see us as a dangerous nuisance, like a chained pit bull they have to step around. Ten years from now, every player in the current game will still be playing this slow, shady game, except one:
the Americans."
http://www.alternet.org/story/81147/...
Not much left to be said, you have such a way with words...

I often wonder how China plays into this scenario, all this financial-backing says to me they have an interest in this dog-fight...They surely realize the U.S. can never pay them back , sooo, what do you think/know?
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Captain O wrote:
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Ten years from now, every player in the current game will still be playing this slow, shady game, except one:
the Americans."
Your anti-American hatred destroys your credibility. Your treasonous views are well known on Topix. With the arrest of the Nigerian terrorist, No Fly suspects like you will never be allowed to leave Europe for the US. German anit-terrorist authorities know who you are and about your support for al-Qaeda. You are a marked man and a traitor.
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Captain O wrote:
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Our government and military elite obviously haven't grasped that they're fighting a GUERRILLA war against the Afghans and will eventually lose again.
http://www.alternet.org/story/81147/...
It's not surprising an anti-American traitor like you gets your facts from alter net.
"AlterNet is an "Alternative" news source run by California web designer Charles Johnson. Critics say bias and deliberate misinformation against people of faith and Conservatives encourage groupthink, intolerance, anti-Americanism & fear of religion."

That sums up who you are- an anti-American racist propagandist who supports Islamic terrorism. Germany is a good place for a traitor like you.
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Hahaha. Look at this ridiculous propaganda!

Absolutely shocking, that so many think we are in Afghanistan because of 9/11. The war was planned well before Afghanistan. It has nothing to do with 9/11.

9/11 wasn't even planned in Afghanistan!

Yes! Support our troops! I support them 100%! Bring them home.

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