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AMERICA SUPPORTS THE DESPOTISM THAT IS BAHRAIN'S DICTATORSHIP America is supporting the reign of terror in Bahrain where civilians, medical staff and families are being tortured, terrorized and murdered by the government dictatorship. "In his briefing in the Bahraini capital Manama, Fox voiced support for the tiny island nation that has hosted U.S. Navy vessels for decades. "They are a long-term partner and a very important piece of our ability to do our mission," he said of the country." Iran has a right to control it's border and territory, just like any other country. America is acting aggressively. Always remember, America overthrew a democratically government in Iran in the 1950s. America has a history of aggression against the Iranian nation.
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Aliroger1 wrote: AMERICA SUPPORTS THE DESPOTISM THAT IS BAHRAIN'S DICTATORSHIP America is supporting the reign of terror in Bahrain where civilians, medical staff and families are being tortured, terrorized and murdered by the government dictatorship. "In his briefing in the Bahraini capital Manama, Fox voiced support for the tiny island nation that has hosted U.S. Navy vessels for decades. "They are a long-term partner and a very important piece of our ability to do our mission," he said of the country." Iran has a right to control it's border and territory, just like any other country. America is acting aggressively. Always remember, America overthrew a democratically government in Iran in the 1950s. America has a history of aggression against the Iranian nation. Actually, there was a time that Iran and the USA were friends, but its then government got cought up in cold war intrigues. 60 years ago Iran was not yet democratic. The then PM was thrown out by a coup which the Iranian military and middle class supported. That PM was never elected by a popular vote and was consorting with the Soviets. Later, Iran pillaged the US embassy and held hostage its diplomats. Give all the facts, man.
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Pablo wrote: Good. Now blow themMuddafuckers outa da water. You want Americans blown out of the water? I see.
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Aliroger1 wrote: <quoted text> You want Americans blown out of the water? I see. Hey Clown!! Go back to looking at your Hamas Jewish hate material they sent you and remain a susceptible victim to the psy ops campaign waged by the you and the Hamas Sock Puppets states media, you Anti-Zionist, Anti-Jewish Anti-American filthy maggot scumbag. You are an armchair pontificator that has the intelligence of the shit at the bottom of a cesspit..Stop the filthy disgusting lies and propaganda! Keep flying that Hezbollah flag over that filthy trailer trash you like to call in Toronto. Then, mind your own Assad Hamas business and keep your big gum flappin' mouth shut if you can't post something besides your radical nut case anti-Semite hate propaganda and LIES!
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Kenhunt wrote: <quoted text> Actually, there was a time that Iran and the USA were friends, but its then government got cought up in cold war intrigues. 60 years ago Iran was not yet democratic. The then PM was thrown out by a coup which the Iranian military and middle class supported. That PM was never elected by a popular vote and was consorting with the Soviets. Later, Iran pillaged the US embassy and held hostage its diplomats. Give all the facts, man. You are a liar. No one needs to speculate about what happened because there is a news reel interview with Kermit Roosevelt, the CIA agent who led the overthrow, in which he describes in detail how it was done. That you would try to lie about this is a measure of how big a scumbag you are. The reason for the overthrow was the nationalization of the oil fields from the British petroleum companies and the UK ran to the Americans shouting the Reds are Coming, the Reds are Coming. Run along, you lying scumbag. America was the aggressor and Iran has a right to defend themselves against anti-democratic forces like America which replaced a democratic government with a despotic dictator, the thug, the shah, a scumbag, who had taken refuge in apartheid South Africa prior to being installed by America as the dictator of Iran.
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KENHUNT=BOLD-FACED LIAR He actually thought he could lie about this!!! LOL
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"TRUTH BEHIND CIA COUP AGAINST MOSSADEGH Dr. Mossadegh, who was a Prime Minister under the Shah ... presented by his followers as a patriotic nationalist, who nationalized Iranian oil for the best interests of Iran, became in actuality a Communist shill, who was in the process of handing Iran and the oil confiscated from the British and West, to the Soviets. The coup to remove him and restore the Shah to the throne has been criticized as an intrusion into the national interests of the people of Iran and removal of a popular hero. In fact, Mossadegh was "popular" only with the Iranian Communists and Socialists, whose activities initially encouraged him to stand-up to the pro-West Shah and whose incitement brought people to the streets. The Khomeini take over was an almost twin replay. The same Communist (Tudeh Party) and Islamist Marxists like the Fedayeen and Mojaheddin brought into being mainly by the Soviets, started the revolution and had it snatched from their lips by the clerics. Simplistically, when the organized government of the Shah fell, the only national network left was the chain of mosques that existed everywhere throughout the country and which started to organize clerically controlled neighborhood committees. The clerics started imprisoning and killing almost immediately and took over the lives of Iranians at every street level point. Including those of the Islamist Marxists, who found themselves considered the enemy, not a partner."
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"“Mossadegh was not 'democraticall'(sic) elected. He was appointed Prime Minister by the Majlis”
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"On the contrary - It is those who make a hero out of Mossadeq who are the ignorant ones! Mossadeq was far from being a democrat - He was an authocrat! He couln't tolerate other people's views. He illegally dissolved the Majles and staged a highly fraudulent and rigged referendum where "99.3%" of the people voted for him! He allied himself with dangerous pro-Moscow communist elements. I get so annoyed when I hear or read the same old false statement that the coup toppled Iran's democratically elected prime minister. Mossadeq was not elected by the people - It was the Shah who chose him as his prime minister, because he didn't realize what a false and hypocritical person Mossadeq was! It's high time that we speak up about the truth about this div!"
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Kenhunt wrote: "TRUTH BEHIND CIA COUP AGAINST MOSSADEGH Dr. Mossadegh, who was a Prime Minister under the Shah ... presented by his followers as a patriotic nationalist, who nationalized Iranian oil for the best interests of Iran, became in actuality a Communist shill, who was in the process of handing Iran and the oil confiscated from the British and West, to the Soviets. The coup to remove him and restore the Shah to the throne has been criticized as an intrusion into the national interests of the people of Iran and removal of a popular hero. In fact, Mossadegh was "popular" only with the Iranian Communists and Socialists, whose activities initially encouraged him to stand-up to the pro-West Shah and whose incitement brought people to the streets. The Khomeini take over was an almost twin replay. The same Communist (Tudeh Party) and Islamist Marxists like the Fedayeen and Mojaheddin brought into being mainly by the Soviets, started the revolution and had it snatched from their lips by the clerics. Simplistically, when the organized government of the Shah fell, the only national network left was the chain of mosques that existed everywhere throughout the country and which started to organize clerically controlled neighborhood committees. The clerics started imprisoning and killing almost immediately and took over the lives of Iranians at every street level point. Including those of the Islamist Marxists, who found themselves considered the enemy, not a partner." Notice that there is no source listed. Moreover, nationalization of the oil industry is a right of a nation state and does not warrant an aggressive attack and overthrow by a foreign power. Iranians ought to have been allowed to take care of their own internal affairs without British and American interests overriding the rights of the Iranian people. If the concern was democracy, why was a despotic dictator imposed on the Iranian people? America and the UK did not care about democracy, they cared only about stealing oil. As for communism, the only Iranian communists around are those backed by America!!!! Mossadegh was a nationalist. There is zero to support him being a communist, not that there is anything wrong with being a communist. The CIA boasted of overthrowing Mossadegh and everyone in the world knows why they did it--to steal Iran's oil. The Shah was their puppet. They did not replace Mossadegh with a democracy but with a dictator. Everyone knows. Your lies cannot undo what the whole world knows. Nice try. LOL!
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Kermit "Kim" Roosevelt, eldest son of Kermit Roosevelt, the son of Theodore Roosevelt, was born in Buenos Aires on 16th February, 1916. After completing his university education he joined the Office of Strategic Services (OSS). During the Second World War Roosevelt worked in the Middle East. After the war Roosevelt taught at Harvard University. In 1950 Frank Wisner recruited Roosevelt into the Office of Policy Coordination (OPC), the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the Central Intelligence Agency. At this time Wisner began plotting the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran. He had upset the US government by nationalizing Iran's oil industry. Mossadegh also abolished Iran's feudal agriculture sector and replaced with a system of collective farming and government land ownership. On April 4, 1953, Wisner persuaded Allen W. Dulles to approve $1 million to be used "in any way that would bring about the fall of Mossadegh." Roosevelt was put in charge of what became known as Operation Ajax. According to Donald N. Wilber, who was involved in this CIA plot to remove Mossadegh from power, in early August, 1953, Iranian CIA operatives, pretending to be socialists, threatened Muslim leaders with "savage punishment if they opposed Mossadegh," thereby giving the impression that Mossadegh was cracking down on dissent. This resulted in the religious community turning against Mossadegh. Iranians took to the streets against Mossadegh. Funded with money from the CIA and MI6, the pro-monarchy forces quickly gained the upper hand. The military now joined the opposition and Mossadegh was arrested on August 19, 1953 http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKroose...
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Screw the filthy Iranians. The criminal theocracy in Tehran overthrew a legitimately installed puppet government and plunged the nation into medieval darkness. The Iranian people deserve better. That is why the need is great for America to destroy Iran utterly.
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AMY GOODMAN: Today we’re going to look at two of these. The 1953 coup against the democratically elected leader of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh , and the April 2002 attempted coup against Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. This week I went to Chicago to speak at the Chicago Public Library. Afterwards, I met with Steven Kinzer, author of the book, "All The Shah’s Men, an American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror." The New York Times reporter talked about the 1953 coup against the Iranian leader. STEVEN KINZER: The story of how the C.I.A. overthrew the government of Iran in 1953 is really an object lesson in how easy it is for a rich and powerful country to throw a poor and weak country into chaos. The C.I.A. sent one of its most adept operatives, Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt, to Iran with the mission of organizing the overthrow of the government. One reason I was so interested in writing this book is that I have always asked myself, how do you go about overthrowing a government? What do you do? Suppose that you are sent to a country with that mission. What do you do on the first day? How do you start and then what do you do? Well, now I know. Kermit Roosevelt set about trying to create chaos in Iran. He was able to do that very quickly by a series of means. The first thing he did was, he started bribing members of parliament and leaders of small political parties that were a part of Mossadegh 's political coalition. Pretty soon the public started to see the Mossadegh ’s coalition splitting apart and people denouncing him on the floor of parliament. The next thing Roosevelt did was start bribing newspaper editors, owners and columnists and reporters. Within a couple of weeks, he had 80% of the newspapers in Tehran on his payroll and they were grinding out every kind of lie attacking Mossadegh . The next thing Roosevelt did was start bribing religious leaders. Soon, at Friday prayers, the Mullahs were denouncing Mossadegh as an atheist enemy of Islam. Roosevelt also bribed members of police units and low-ranking military officers to be ready with their units on the crucial day. In what I think was really his master stroke, he hired the leaders of a bunch of street gangs in Tehran, and he used them to help create the impression that the rule of law had totally disintegrated in Iran. He actually at one point hired a gang to run through the streets of Tehran, beating up any pedestrian they found, breaking shop windows, firing their guns into mosques, and yelling — "We love Mossadegh and communism." This would naturally turn any decent citizen against him. He didn't stop there. He tired a second mob to attack the first mob, to give people the impression that there was no police presence and order had completely disintegrated. So, within just a few weeks, this one agent operating with a large sum of cash and a network of contacts and various elements of society, had taken what was a fairly stable country and thrown it into complete upheaval. AMY GOODMAN: Then can you talk about how the coup was actually carried out? STEVEN KINZER: The first coup that Roosevelt organized was scheduled to take place on August 15th of 1953. On that night, an officer, who had been brought into the plot, was supposed to arrive at Prime Minister Mossadegh 's home around midnight with an order signed by the shah firing him as prime minister. Now, they knew that Mossadegh would refuse to accept this order, since in Iran, which was then a democracy — only parliament had the right to hire and fire prime ministers. When he resisted, he would be arrested. That was the plan.
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"As soon as Mossadeq became Prime Minister of Iran in 1951, with the support of the Tudeh (Communist) Party, the debate over them (oil reserves) moved from aspiration to direct action..."
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The C.I.A. had a general already designated to take over the next day as prime minister of Iran. But what happened? Mossadegh got wind of this plan. When the officer arrived at Mossadegh ’s house at midnight, loyal officers stepped out of the shadows. Soon, the officer who was supposed to arrest Mossadegh was himself under arrest. So now, the coup had failed and the Shah, who had been waiting out the results at his resort near the Caspian, immediately fled the country. http://www.democracynow.org/2004/3/5/how_to_o...
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AMY GOODMAN: Today we’re going to look at two of these. The 1953 coup against the democratically elected leader of Iran, Mohammad Mossadegh , and the April 2002 attempted coup against Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. This week I went to Chicago to speak at the Chicago Public Library. Afterwards, I met with Steven Kinzer, author of the book, "All The Shah’s Men, an American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror." The New York Times reporter talked about the 1953 coup against the Iranian leader. STEVEN KINZER: The story of how the C.I.A. overthrew the government of Iran in 1953 is really an object lesson in how easy it is for a rich and powerful country to throw a poor and weak country into chaos. The C.I.A. sent one of its most adept operatives, Kermit Roosevelt, the grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt, to Iran with the mission of organizing the overthrow of the government. One reason I was so interested in writing this book is that I have always asked myself, how do you go about overthrowing a government? What do you do? Suppose that you are sent to a country with that mission. What do you do on the first day? How do you start and then what do you do? Well, now I know. Kermit Roosevelt set about trying to create chaos in Iran. He was able to do that very quickly by a series of means. The first thing he did was, he started bribing members of parliament and leaders of small political parties that were a part of Mossadegh 's political coalition. Pretty soon the public started to see the Mossadegh ’s coalition splitting apart and people denouncing him on the floor of parliament. The next thing Roosevelt did was start bribing newspaper editors, owners and columnists and reporters. Within a couple of weeks, he had 80% of the newspapers in Tehran on his payroll and they were grinding out every kind of lie attacking Mossadegh . The next thing Roosevelt did was start bribing religious leaders. Soon, at Friday prayers, the Mullahs were denouncing Mossadegh as an atheist enemy of Islam. Roosevelt also bribed members of police units and low-ranking military officers to be ready with their units on the crucial day. In what I think was really his master stroke, he hired the leaders of a bunch of street gangs in Tehran, and he used them to help create the impression that the rule of law had totally disintegrated in Iran. He actually at one point hired a gang to run through the streets of Tehran, beating up any pedestrian they found, breaking shop windows, firing their guns into mosques, and yelling — "We love Mossadegh and communism." This would naturally turn any decent citizen against him. He didn't stop there. He tired a second mob to attack the first mob, to give people the impression that there was no police presence and order had completely disintegrated. So, within just a few weeks, this one agent operating with a large sum of cash and a network of contacts and various elements of society, had taken what was a fairly stable country and thrown it into complete upheaval.
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AMY GOODMAN: Then can you talk about how the coup was actually carried out?
STEVEN KINZER: The first coup that Roosevelt organized was scheduled to take place on August 15th of 1953. On that night, an officer, who had been brought into the plot, was supposed to arrive at Prime Minister Mossadegh 's home around midnight with an order signed by the shah firing him as prime minister. Now, they knew that Mossadegh would refuse to accept this order, since in Iran, which was then a democracy — only parliament had the right to hire and fire prime ministers. When he resisted, he would be arrested. That was the plan. The C.I.A. had a general already designated to take over the next day as prime minister of Iran. But what happened? Mossadegh got wind of this plan. When the officer arrived at Mossadegh ’s house at midnight, loyal officers stepped out of the shadows. Soon, the officer who was supposed to arrest Mossadegh was himself under arrest. So now, the coup had failed and the Shah, who had been waiting out the results at his resort near the Caspian, immediately fled the country. He went to Baghdad and then on to Rome where he told people that he was going to be looking for work, since he obviously wouldn't be able to go back to Iran.
Now, what neither he nor anyone else knew was that Kermit Roosevelt despite being ordered by the C.I.A. to come home, decided: I can still do this. I can try again. He was really a true-life James Bond. On his own, he activated his mobs on the 19th of August, just four days later, in a second coup attempt. They rampaged through the streets by the tens of thousands. Many of them, I think, never even really understood they were being paid by the C.I.A. They just knew they had been given a good day’s wage to go out in the street and chant something. Many politicians whipped up the crowds during those days. Roosevelt had been spending $11,000 a week just to bribe members of the Iranian parliament. There were only 90 members. The average annual income in Iran at that time was about $500. So, you can imagine what this sum must have meant. At crucial moments, police and military units joined the crowd. They started storming government buildings. There were gunfights in front of important buildings. The crucial battle, the climactic battle was actually in front of the prime minister’s house. It started at nightfall. There was heavy gunfire, including an artillery duel. About 100 people were killed just in the battle in front of Mossadegh ’s house. Towards the end, members of a military unit, whose leader Roosevelt had bribed, arrived with a column of tanks, and with that, Mossadegh was no longer able to survive. By midnight, on August the 19th of 1953, his house was in flames, and he had fled over the back guard wall to surrender himself a couple of days later. And the general, who was a C.I.A.— who the C.I.A. had selected as the designated savior of Iran was installed as prime minister.
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The USA spent considerable time, money and effort on Ajax. The current regime in Iran is illegal. They are outlaws. There are two things I have waited my whole life to see 1) a tornado up close; and 2) a nuclear war. I will not be cheated! Iran must go!
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Faith wrote: The USA spent considerable time, money and effort on Ajax. The current regime in Iran is illegal. They are outlaws. There are two things I have waited my whole life to see 1) a tornado up close; and 2) a nuclear war. I will not be cheated! Iran must go! Israel and America will be defeated in Iran. Iran will fight to the last man, woman and child. They will never surrender. It will be a long war. It will not end with a ticker tape parade. Rather, like the German movie Das Boot, it will end with American defeat. Israel is dragging America down.
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