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The person who wrote the Obama Health Care Law please stand up. Romney stands up with one hand in the air.

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Frank Lee Plain wrote:
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WHAT Republican health care law? That's my gripe with the GOP: they don't have a plan.
The Republicans have never offered a health care plan other than a weak 2009 bill that would have covered fewer people while costing more than the Democrats' plan that eventually passed.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2...
Under Obamacare the government decides who dies; like my 84 year old mother, those who can’t sustain their own quality of life, i.e. the mentality incapacitated, the invalid, those on welfare etc.

The Republican plan is as it has always been, let people decide who they want to help; let private charities continue to help those in need; let churches and other religious groups help those in need instead of the government stealing money from the people (that´s what government’s idea of charity is) and giving it to whom they see fit.

Government waste, corruption and abuse are legion. The bigger the government is the more of it we need. It is a self-perpetuating delusion that we need shake off or we will find we are under a North Korean style tyranny.

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Jul 8, 2012
 
Tony wrote:
America needs a President like Obama who believes in investing in America first not foreign investing like Romney.
News flash August 09, 2010

Obama Admin's IT Outsourcing Assistance to Sri Lanka, Armenia Gets Little Press Notice

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2010/...

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Tony wrote:
America needs a President like Obama who believes in investing in America first not foreign investing like Romney.
Tony, Tony, Tony...why don't you investigate a few things after listening to all those commercials instead of concentrating on that thrill up your leg?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2...

http://factcheck.org/2012/06/obamas-outsource...
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Dismayed wrote:
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And how do you figure it will be different under Obamacare? Have you ever known anyone to use Medicaid? Some are lucky and actually get a good doctor, but most get the bottom of the barrel because the gov't pays almost nothing. Obama says we can keep what we have now...and most of us are in plans where tests and referrals must be approved by the insurance administrators before having anything done.
Further, it's expected that a lot of doctors are going to be dropping out of Medicare and other gov't sponsored insurances since cuts are expected and restrictions placed on what a doctor can do. So...we're either going to have cuts or our insurance premiums are going up.(Most insurances have already gone up significantly since Obamacare was signed.)
I don't know if I could trust a doctor that wouldn't take the most desperate in society, that physician is profit driven. In his care you're just a bill number.

To conduct business in that manner, when your business is touching and impacting people's lives requires the callousness of a madd scientist, than a compassionate care giver.

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If the ACA can survive the GOP attacks, it will prove to be so popular, citizens will wonder why the GOP opposed it in the first place.
You are correct. The GOP also opposed medicare in the 1960s, and millions of retired Fox-News-watching-tea-party-su pporting-Reagan-worshiping-Oba ma-hating Republicans would have no health coverage without it.

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TheLoneRanger1 wrote:
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Under Obamacare the government decides who dies; like my 84 year old mother, those who can’t sustain their own quality of life, i.e. the mentality incapacitated, the invalid, those on welfare etc.
The Republican plan is as it has always been, let people decide who they want to help; let private charities continue to help those in need; let churches and other religious groups help those in need instead of the government stealing money from the people (that´s what government’s idea of charity is) and giving it to whom they see fit.
Government waste, corruption and abuse are legion. The bigger the government is the more of it we need. It is a self-perpetuating delusion that we need shake off or we will find we are under a North Korean style tyranny.
You've been listening to Sarah Palin too much. Here are the facts: Before Obamacare, insurance companies decided who lived and died:

In 2009, 17-year-old Nataline Sarkisyan died because her insurance company refused to pay for a liver transplant. The ins. co. arbitrarily deemed the operation "experimental, despite Nataline's doctors' statement that the operation had a 60% success rate in cases like hers.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/oct/08/busin...

In 2010, The U.S. govt. too action to stop WellPoint, the largest U.S. health insurer, from using a computer algorithm that automatically targeted patients with breast cancer or other conditions. "The software triggered an immediate fraud investigation by the company as it searched for excuses to drop coverage, according to government regulators and investigators."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/04/23/us-...

More facts: Hard-working Americans--even those with insurance--go bankrupt due to serious illness:
"One in four cancer patients or their families said they used up all or most of their savings to pay for treatment, according to a 2006 survey of nearly 1,000 survivors and their families by USA TODAY, the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Harvard School of Public Health.

One in 10 in that survey said they were unable to pay for basic necessities, such as food, heat and housing."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-10-1...

And the Affordable Care Act prevents insurance companies from denying coverage due to preexisting conditions. We are no longer at the mercy of insurance companies who have a financial incentive to decline coverage.

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