Fewer workers cross border, creating US farm labor shortage

Jul 5, 2012 Full story: Bangor Daily News 240

On more than 10,000 acres of drained swampland in western New York, Maureen Torrey's family farm grows an assortment of vegetables in the dark, nutrient-rich soil known as "Elba muck." Like other farms in the area, Torrey Farms Inc.

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Juan

Pearland, TX

#189 Jul 27, 2012
No free chit for me, I work every day. I made $140 today. Today was payday !

Since: Apr 10

Houston, TX

#190 Jul 27, 2012
Juan wrote:
No free chit for me, I work every day. I made $140 today. Today was payday !


It's only temporary, it's always temporary. Better keep a bank account in Mexico.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#191 Jul 28, 2012
Yes, I have an account in Mexico. I send money to my parents in Progresso. They save for my retirement.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#192 Jul 28, 2012
Juan wrote:
Yes, I have an account in Mexico. I send money to my parents in Progresso. They save for my retirement.
How do you know that they aren't dipping their sticky fingers into it???? Better get over there and check it out.

“It matters but not very much”

Since: Oct 07

Houston, TX

#193 Jul 29, 2012
loosetowin wrote:
<quoted text>
why don't you and your family go for farming jobs for your nation man
My family owns and works farms in Wisconsin. Duh. You have such an ignorant, narrow, racist perspective on the citizens of the USA. Who do you think feeds the population and lots of other countries, including China? Not Mexicans or illegal aliens in the USA.

Illegals are woosies when it comes to living up north since most of them come from south of our border. They don't tolerate the winters, so they squat in the southern states like roaches. Thus, they don't even realize how big the USA is, and how productive it has always been without ignorant, uneducated, illegal veggie pickers who poop on the produce they pick like mindless animals.
pug

Justice, IL

#194 Jul 29, 2012
Harvesting machinery has improved over the years, right?

Less stoop labor is needed than in the past. How many laborers shall be needed in the near future?

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#195 Jul 29, 2012
pug wrote:
Harvesting machinery has improved over the years, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =BaJgQ5wphJoXX
Less stoop labor is needed than in the past. How many laborers shall be needed in the near future?
It takes a lot of cabbage to afford expensive machinery, sport.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#196 Jul 29, 2012
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>How do you know that they aren't dipping their sticky fingers into it???? Better get over there and check it out.
I can trust my parents, are you unable to trust yours ?
Juan

Pearland, TX

#197 Jul 29, 2012
Independent patriot wrote:
<quoted text>
My family owns and works farms in Wisconsin. Duh. You have such an ignorant, narrow, racist perspective on the citizens of the USA. Who do you think feeds the population and lots of other countries, including China? Not Mexicans or illegal aliens in the USA.
Illegals are woosies when it comes to living up north since most of them come from south of our border. They don't tolerate the winters, so they squat in the southern states like roaches. Thus, they don't even realize how big the USA is, and how productive it has always been without ignorant, uneducated, illegal veggie pickers who poop on the produce they pick like mindless animals.
All of americas produce would be rotting in the fields if not for the undocumented workers.
pug

Justice, IL

#198 Jul 29, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>It takes a lot of cabbage to afford expensive machinery, sport.
If no one was using the machines the companies would not be making them and developing new models.

No one would build a large farm machine if it was not going to sell
pug

Justice, IL

#199 Jul 29, 2012
Low percentage of non citizens work on farms.

A high percentage of non citizens collect benefits

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/state...

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#200 Jul 29, 2012
pug wrote:
<quoted text>
If no one was using the machines the companies would not be making them and developing new models.
No one would build a large farm machine if it was not going to sell
Only one of us grew up on a farm and knows the cost of buying and maintaining machinery, I see.
Mike

Shorewood, IL

#201 Jul 29, 2012
Less workers...More moochers! More Obama supporters!
pug

Justice, IL

#202 Jul 29, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>Only one of us grew up on a farm and knows the cost of buying and maintaining machinery, I see.
I agree, modern farm equipment is very expensive.

Today, cars can be quite expensive. In about 1970 a new Plymouth might cost $3000.00 a large sum requiring an auto loan.

In about 1978 a new Chrysler was about $6000.00 a large sum in those days but an auto loan would get you a car.

A Chrysler mini van in 2008 was about $32000.00. A loan was still required to purchase a new mini van.

In 1950 many hands were required to harvest a farm crop, right?

In 2012 less hand labor is required to harvest a farm crop, right?

So, cars and farm machinery have increased in price over time right?

If you are a farming expert great I'am not a farming expert.

I also do not manufacture new cars. But, through observation of facts I can conclude that Cars cost more now than in 1950.

Farm equipment has reduced some labor jobs when comparing say 1950 to 2012. We no longer use Horses to plow fields, right?

Since: Feb 09

Louisville, KY

#204 Jul 30, 2012
pug wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, modern farm equipment is very expensive.
Today, cars can be quite expensive. In about 1970 a new Plymouth might cost $3000.00 a large sum requiring an auto loan.
In about 1978 a new Chrysler was about $6000.00 a large sum in those days but an auto loan would get you a car.
A Chrysler mini van in 2008 was about $32000.00. A loan was still required to purchase a new mini van.
In 1950 many hands were required to harvest a farm crop, right?
In 2012 less hand labor is required to harvest a farm crop, right?
So, cars and farm machinery have increased in price over time right?
If you are a farming expert great I'am not a farming expert.
I also do not manufacture new cars. But, through observation of facts I can conclude that Cars cost more now than in 1950.
Farm equipment has reduced some labor jobs when comparing say 1950 to 2012. We no longer use Horses to plow fields, right?
some folks still do, oddly enough. Most equipment I see bought these days is used, bought at auctions. After the tractor and the wagon, most equipment can only be used for one task, and with a good tractor starting at $150,000+, and so on, alfalfa costing upwards of $400/acre to seed, etc- quite expensive.
pug

Justice, IL

#205 Jul 30, 2012
justagi wrote:
<quoted text>some folks still do, oddly enough. Most equipment I see bought these days is used, bought at auctions. After the tractor and the wagon, most equipment can only be used for one task, and with a good tractor starting at $150,000+, and so on, alfalfa costing upwards of $400/acre to seed, etc- quite expensive.
Can farming equipment be rented? In our area, one can rent any type of a tool or machine for a single project. It is very cost effective to rent a Bobcat, use it for a few days and return the machine after the project. Buying one for a single use is just too expensive.

It is difficult to believe that each farmer must purchase a harvesting machine for $500,000.00.
Do large farms in certain areas grow the same things? Say (6) farms in an area are all growing carrots. Could they not cooperate and use each others equipment or ban together and rent that equipment for harvesting season?

If it's $400.00 per acre to plant your stated crop alfalfa, what is the breakdown of that cost seed, fuel, machines, labor?

So, 400 acres is $40,000.00?
pug

Justice, IL

#206 Jul 30, 2012
$400 * 400 =$160,000.00

$400 * 100 =$40,000.00

That cannot be just the seed cost right?
sam

Arnold, MO

#207 Jul 30, 2012
GOOD! U.S. citizens need WORK! About time farms GROW UP and HIRED actual U.S. citizens instead illeagels.
Juan

Pearland, TX

#208 Jul 30, 2012
pug wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, modern farm equipment is very expensive.
Today, cars can be quite expensive. In about 1970 a new Plymouth might cost $3000.00 a large sum requiring an auto loan.
In about 1978 a new Chrysler was about $6000.00 a large sum in those days but an auto loan would get you a car.
A Chrysler mini van in 2008 was about $32000.00. A loan was still required to purchase a new mini van.
In 1950 many hands were required to harvest a farm crop, right?
In 2012 less hand labor is required to harvest a farm crop, right?
So, cars and farm machinery have increased in price over time right?
If you are a farming expert great I'am not a farming expert.
I also do not manufacture new cars. But, through observation of facts I can conclude that Cars cost more now than in 1950.
Farm equipment has reduced some labor jobs when comparing say 1950 to 2012. We no longer use Horses to plow fields, right?
So what are you trying to say Pug.........don't use automobiles for farm equipment ?
juan purveyor of chit

Houston, TX

#209 Jul 30, 2012
Juan wrote:
<quoted text>
All of americas produce would be rotting in the fields if not for the undocumented workers.
Tonight's la ratza propaganda brought to you by the troll from pearland, tx. That myth has been dispelled time and again.

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