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Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals

$3.1 million decision stands on Nemer property

A Summit County probate court judge this afternoon denied a request from the University of Akron to retry a case awarding $3.1 million to campus property owners.

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There should be a premium paid any time property is taken from someone against their wishes. UA could have said "We planned on spending five dollars for property aquisition". So what? Pay the d-a-m-n money and get on with it - or don't pay and let them keep the property. Also, KSU grad, what would your feelings be if the government wanted to put a salt dome on your property? "OK, take it for well under fair market value an I'll gladly go live in an apartment"- I don't think so...
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I've been a staunch supporter of the U on this one, but I'm about ready to just let this go. I still completely disagree with the jury's ruling, but just give the greedy SOBs their money and get them out of Akron. We all know they won't be re-investing this windfall.
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Eminent domain is an often misguided tool, yes. No one can disagree that this wouldn't be good for the city however. And UA was offering more than fair market value for these properties at 1.07 million. You're clearly insane if you think these properties warranted a $3 million pricetag.
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No Good wrote:
Eminent domain is an often misguided tool, yes. No one can disagree that this wouldn't be good for the city however. And UA was offering more than fair market value for these properties at 1.07 million. You're clearly insane if you think these properties warranted a $3 million pricetag.
"clearly insane"?

thats the point. They were NOT offering FMV for the property and business, in the collective opinion of the jury of eight.

Nice to hear how much you value the opinions of your peers, you know, the ones who, unlike you, actually sat in the courtroom and heard the evidence presented and admitted upon FMV.

Be funny if you needed the wisdom of eight of those "clearly insane" folks sometime in the future yourself.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAAHHAHAH!!!!! hOW CAN ANYONE CALL THE NEMERS GREEDY WITH WHAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS CHARGED FOR TUTION?? The university is charging this year for parking whether you use it or now plus the fee to park and not to mention the so called loop bus they are intergrating into the general fees. I wish i could appeal my tution hike. Yahs need to shup. That's shuddup real quick! LMAO
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As it should be.
Duke for Mayor

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KSU grad wrote:
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Juries are notorious for being off the wall. And if you want to champion the legal process,(as opposed to deifying it) then please don't cherry pick. Appeals are a part of the package too.
And I disparaged the University's right to an appeal.....where?

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KSU grad wrote:
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Glad you're not my attorney!
Well, it actually might be very good advice, if he were an attorney.

Construction deadlines, bad press, likelihood of success, costs of continuing litigation, all those and other factors taken into consideration.

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KSU grad wrote:
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Juries are notorious for being off the wall. And if you want to champion the legal process,(as opposed to deifying it) then please don't cherry pick. Appeals are a part of the package too.
Anyone that thinks juries get it right all the time. They must agree with verdicts rendered by the OJ jury and the Michael Jackson jury. Juries are notorious for being more then a bit strange. Please keep in mind the average person with common sense tries to get out of jury duty and not serve it.

Don't let TV fool you. Jury duty is one of the most boring, tedious and mundane things you'll ever do. Most jurist have made up their minds before they even hear one piece of evidence. This is proven fact.

Bottom line is I wouldn't be all that shocked by who served on this jury not being the sharpest tools in the box.

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Jun 30, 2008
 
...change to...Er, TIMMY!
Truth Hurts

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Good wrote:
There should be a premium paid any time property is taken from someone against their wishes.
And there should be someone to b**ch slap idiots like you who do not know what they're talking about. Like this case, for example. Their property was NOT "taken against their will." They never contested the ED action. Just the amount. If you bothered to pay attention, you'd know this. Instead, you'd rather rattle on like a moron.
UA could have said "We planned on spending five dollars for property aquisition". So what? Pay the d-a-m-n money and get on with it - or don't pay and let them keep the property. Also, KSU grad, what would your feelings be if the government wanted to put a salt dome on your property? "OK, take it for well under fair market value an I'll gladly go live in an apartment"- I don't think so...
Congrats on being a moron. AND as a taxpayer, have fun OVERPAYING for the dump. Same goes for all of you other morons who are slamming UA. You should be PISSED OFF BIG TIME at this ruling. YOU -- THE TAXPAYER -- are paying for this dump.
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"clearly insane"?
thats the point. They were NOT offering FMV for the property and business, in the collective opinion of the jury of eight.
Nice to hear how much you value the opinions of your peers, you know, the ones who, unlike you, actually sat in the courtroom and heard the evidence presented and admitted upon FMV.
Be funny if you needed the wisdom of eight of those "clearly insane" folks sometime in the future yourself.
woof
Actually, they were offering fair market value. They (UA) had several appraisals done. The jury simply felt the slum properties were worth more, that's all. NEVER ONCE was it mentioned that UA was lowballing them.

Now, the Nemers should be billed by the County for the amount of taxes they have not paid on this property that is obviously worth more than originally thought. I'd laugh hysterically if the County sent them a bill.
Truth Hurts

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If you want UA to "pay the damn money", why don't you write them a check and have them pay your "damn money", not mine?
Actually, all of the taxpayers of Summit County will be footing the bill for this one.
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Realist wrote:
The monster that ate downtown Akron just stubbed it's toe.
Pay up d-i-c-k-h-e-a-d-s.
Take it out of the prez salary.
This is sweet.
Actually, you, the uneducated taxpayer will be footing the bill on this. To quote you: pay up d-i-c-khead.
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Drew wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAAHHAHAH!!!!! hOW CAN ANYONE CALL THE NEMERS GREEDY WITH WHAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS CHARGED FOR TUTION?? The university is charging this year for parking whether you use it or now plus the fee to park and not to mention the so called loop bus they are intergrating into the general fees. I wish i could appeal my tution hike. Yahs need to shup. That's shuddup real quick! LMAO
You can "appeal" your tuition hike. Don't go. Go elsewhere. And your whining just shows what a bigger moron you are. Tuition has been frozen for 2 years.

And until the mandated freeze, all colleges were hiking their tuitions every semester, so UA was no different. Not to mention, tuition has nothing to do with this, as it does not go to this stadium.

But since you're more interested in being an idiot, I am not surprised by your response either. Go ahead, give me those wonderful "judging" icons to only further prove my point about you and people like you.

Dee-dee-dee.
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Jun 30, 2008
 
That is a reward for just what the Nemers have on the books. Just think, if the nemers would have actually claimed everything that went thru those places. Congrats to the Nemers for screwing both the IRS and UA!!
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Drew wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAAHHAHAH!!!!! hOW CAN ANYONE CALL THE NEMERS GREEDY WITH WHAT THE UNIVERSITY HAS CHARGED FOR TUTION?? The university is charging this year for parking whether you use it or now plus the fee to park and not to mention the so called loop bus they are intergrating into the general fees. I wish i could appeal my tution hike. Yahs need to shup. That's shuddup real quick! LMAO
Perhaps switching to Sanka might help.
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you all forgot the value of the property will be high once they finish the million dollar housing project in the area -
UA gets what it deserves

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KSU and anyone else crying about this decision should realize the U of A is the one ripping the tax payer off! Why is U of A trying to build dorms on high priced, prime commercial property? Why isn't the University going after property on kling, allyn, or sherman st? Those areas are just as close to the university and probably cost half as much!!! On those streets are owners of homes that are begging the university to buy them out!!! The Nemers never asked the University to buy them out! The Nemer family tried working with the University several times, had plans on renovating the buildings, and the U of A put an end to everything they tried doing!
Duke for Mayor

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KSU grad wrote:
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By portraying the jury as omniscient and you know it, liar.
I did no such thing.

You simply do not agree with my opinion, and now you call me a liar because of it.

A regular Clarence Darrow you are.

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