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Apr 11, 2010
 
YOU & YOUR CULT FOLLOWERS ARE TRYING TO PASS JUDGMENT WHEN YOU HOLD UP YOUR SIGNS OF HATE IN FRONT OF LOVED ONES FUNERALS, PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. YOU REALLY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES BUT I GUESS YOUR SO BRAINWASHED INTO BELIEVING ALL YOUR FALSEHOOD & FOOLISHNESS YOU FEEL THAT MAKES YOU RIGHT. HOW DARE YOU USE GOD'S NAME IN VAIN TO BE A FRONT FOR YOU BELIEFS ALONG WITH DRAGGING THOSE POOR INNOCENT CHILDREN WITH YOU TO BE YOUR HUMAN SHIELDS. WHY DON'T YOU ADULTS COME TO THESE PROTESTS AS ADULTS & LEAVE YOU KIDS AT HOME, BUT YOU WON'T YOUR COWARDS HIDING BEHIND CHILDREN INSTEAD OF PROTECTING THEM. SHAME SHAME
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Sam said: "we cannot judge man".
Paul the Apostle said: I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
Sam; get it right pal. YOU cannot judge. Stop projecting your cowardly sinful way on others.
Concerned

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Apr 12, 2010
 
Margie Phelps wrote:
Dear editor,
Regarding his piece on our funeral picketing case before the Supreme Court, Cal Thomas is the hypocritical voice of the false prophets of doomed-america. They love to lay hard speeches on anyone who obeys God’s standard (Jude 15).
In the past he has written in favor of our position that homosexuality is a sin, because it made him feel holy. Now, he stridently opposes our message because we’ve touched his idol. He worships the dead. Many false prophets do; professional mourning is good business.

You selfish brutes fill up the airwaves with words that convince your fellow man to disobey God. Thereby you bring their destruction. You will call for the mourning women and teach your daughters to wail!(See Jer. 9:17-21.) You’ve brought this nation to the condition described in Revelation 18, becoming the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Read the words! Those are just a small snippet of the many powerful descriptions in the Scriptures of the imminent destruction of this rebellious land. Stop pretending God doesn’t judge! If you disobey him, he will curse you!
Thomas turns to a self-proclaimed stiff-necked atheist Jew, non-lawyer Nat Hentoff, to assure him that any disturbance at a religious event is not protected. But you all know we don’t disturb anything – except your dark consciences with words.
Per our usual practice, we stood over 1,000 feet from the church in the case at issue, and no one going in to that funeral even saw the picketers. Meanwhile, routinely false prophets, media, militant-military members, other officials including politicians, veterans and citizens pile up immediately outside the building, flapping their impotent flags and mouths, making a major ruckus. So don’t pretend you care if these death-watches are disturbed. You’ll take all manner of chaos and noise around funerals, so long as the words make you feel better about the crimes you’ve committed against God.
Then he repeats the lying saw,“you can’t yell fire in a theater.” Wrong! Here are the words from the Supreme Court:“The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic,” Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47, 52, 39 S.Ct. 247, 249, 63 L.Ed. 470, 473 (1919); emphasis added. If the bloomin’ theater is on fire, you’d better yell fire! Otherwise don’t pretend you give two hoots about your fellow man, while you stand their smugly watching him burn to death!
The column is disingenuous and disserves the readers. The only way to silence the lawful peaceful faithful words of Westboro Baptist Church is to rip up the blessing God gave you called the First Amendment, and to uproot settled law. Admit that’s what you want, because you hate how God is dealing with this nation and that we plainly say his wrath is pouring out on you for your sins. Stop pretending we ever acted outside the bounds of the constitution.
Margie Phelps
Thankful and humble picketing member of Westboro Baptist Church
Topeka, KS
Margie,

You can quote all the Bible verses you'd like. How could you possibly win? The court is full of Jews, Catholics, a Hispanic, Blacks and real Christians. You will lose. Your family should be tried for: Treason, Child Abuse, Copyright Infringement, Inciting Riots, Civil Rights Discrimination, Slander and Libel and more. Your family have modeled your actions after Adolph Hitler. Do you salute the swastika? You are rude, crude, self serving and downright ugly.
You teach your spawn to follow the rantings of your "Daddy Fred" and have made them little parrots. Do you beat your children like "Daddy Fred" did. You should cease using the term church and substitute cult. We all pray you are censored from your un-Christian actions and slander.
Concerned

Chattaroy, WV

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Apr 12, 2010
 

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Hey Ms. Phelps. Guess what? SIN is also protected by the constitution. That's right. You're hilarious. You push people farther from God and say you are doing His work! If you put as much energy into winning the lost as you do to sending people to hell you could be the catalyst of a great revival. Do the world a favor. Tell the world the truth-God loves them amd wants to SAVE them from their sins!
Who elected the Phelps family to save the earth from Gays, Jews, Catholics,heathens and other Christians? I didn't vote! Maybe we can impeach all of you?
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Apr 19, 2010
 
Apostate Churches said: "WBC and Phelps family: Love is NOT; - Legalistic in its attitude toward others"

Hmmm... Lets see.

But take diligent heed to do the commandment and the law, which Moses the servant of the LORD charged you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave unto him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul. Jos 22:5"

Hmmm... seems like LOVE and LAW are intimately entwined there.

"MEM. O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day." Psa 119:97

Hmm.. again.

SAMECH. I hate vain thoughts: but thy law do I love. Psa 119:113

Again:

I hate and abhor lying: but thy law do I love. Psa 119:163

And again:

Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them. Psa 119:165

and again:(it's getting boring Apostate)

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. Rom 13:8

ditto:

Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Rom 13:10

If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: Jas 2:8

Now I know what Apostate means.

“Sometimes I bite. ”

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Phineas wrote:
Apostate Churches said: "WBC and Phelps family: Love is NOT; - Legalistic in its attitude toward others"
It means your supposed to get a REAL job instead of acting like a pack of vultures and ghouls hanging around cemeteries attempting to
provoke grieving people in their moment of weakness into attacking you,so you can file a lawsuit .
Right_Way

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Apr 19, 2010
 
paganbirdkeeper666 wrote:
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It means your supposed to get a REAL job instead of acting like a pack of vultures and ghouls hanging around cemeteries attempting to
provoke grieving people in their moment of weakness into attacking you,so you can file a lawsuit .
Isn't that the truth.But Margie signed her name as an humble picketer member of WBC.Now,I myself am a Member of The Body of Christ.I believe in helping the Widow,The orphan.Weep with those who weep,etc.. I guess it's where your heart is. Mine is in Jesus,Theirs appears to be in lawsuits of the grieving widows,orphans,etc...
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Apr 19, 2010
 
Margie Phelps wrote:
Dear editor,
Regarding his piece on our funeral picketing case before the Supreme Court, Cal Thomas is the hypocritical voice of the false prophets of doomed-america. They love to lay hard speeches on anyone who obeys God’s standard (Jude 15).
In the past he has written in favor of our position that homosexuality is a sin, because it made him feel holy. Now, he stridently opposes our message because we’ve touched his idol. He worships the dead. Many false prophets do; professional mourning is good business.
You selfish brutes fill up the airwaves with words that convince your fellow man to disobey God. Thereby you bring their destruction. You will call for the mourning women and teach your daughters to wail!(See Jer. 9:17-21.) You’ve brought this nation to the condition described in Revelation 18, becoming the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Read the words! Those are just a small snippet of the many powerful descriptions in the Scriptures of the imminent destruction of this rebellious land. Stop pretending God doesn’t judge! If you disobey him, he will curse you!
, because you hate how God is dealing with this nation and Margie Phelps
Thankful and humble picketing member of Westboro Baptist Church
Topeka, KS
No,We're all hating How you portray Our Loving God. You all are in essence a bunch of Grave robbers.You rob the people of their right to bury their dead in peace.Then when you provoke to anger the bereaved,You sue them for your selfish, self centered Love of Money and Fred.
Rights? God gave these people a right to bury their dead.What would you have done if you lived in Biblical times and witnessed Peter being Crucified upside down? Or Paul who was tortured and beheaded,How about Jude who was killed with arrows and James, thrown over a hundred foot wall then beat to death with a fullers club,Oh and Luke who was hanged in Greece,Matthias stoned and beheaded,Andrew,crucified,Matt hew killed by a sword wound,Oh yes,Mark,Dragged by horses through the streets until dead.,Thomas stabbed to death with a spear,Bartholomew,flayed to death with a whip,James the Great beheaded.
John was the only Disciple who died peacefully an old man.Paul of course was not one of the 12.But the point is,They were tragic deaths,Horrible deaths,Would you have picketed their funerals and burials? SAID THEY WENT TO HELL? WOULD YOU? Tragedy it was,But noone would have dared do what you people have done and continue to do.
You call that ministering the Gospel? Maybe you should go look up Ministering the Gospel.Spreading the Good News.Tidings of Comfort and JOY.LOVE...Quit hiding behind a law degree to spout your hate.Yeah,Jesus sees the hate you spew.Not good lady,Not good at all.Buzzards..Where the carcase is huh,Margie.Humble picketer member of WBC. I myself am, An Humble member of the Body of Christ
aaa

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Apr 19, 2010
 
My heart aches for most of the Phelps family. They will be lead straight into hell by their inbreeding father Frred.
Look at this family. They are all sickly looking and resemble his cultist majesty Fred.
Freddy couldn't find any sane humans to follow in his foot steps. So, he had to impregnate hatred into his own family.
Only consolation for this family is they'll all be toasty warm together in eternity.
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Apr 19, 2010
 
aaa wrote:
My heart aches for most of the Phelps family. They will be lead straight into hell by their inbreeding father Frred.
Look at this family. They are all sickly looking and resemble his cultist majesty Fred.
Freddy couldn't find any sane humans to follow in his foot steps. So, he had to impregnate hatred into his own family.
Only consolation for this family is they'll all be toasty warm together in eternity.
It's called inbreeding.And I have love for them as my Lord has taught me ,but compassion no.They have made their bed .Unless they repent of the filth they have done my master will not forgive and they will be consigned to hell for an eternity.
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Apr 19, 2010
 
momullins wrote:
<quoted text>It's called inbreeding.And I have love for them as my Lord has taught me ,but compassion no.They have made their bed .Unless they repent of the filth they have done my master will not forgive and they will be consigned to hell for an eternity.
How's it going sister Mo?You good? Absolutely right here Mo.They need to repent and sin no more.

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Apr 19, 2010
 
Right_Way wrote:
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Isn't that the truth.But Margie signed her name as an humble picketer member of WBC.Now,I myself am a Member of The Body of Christ.I believe in helping the Widow,The orphan.Weep with those who weep,etc.. I guess it's where your heart is. Mine is in Jesus,Theirs appears to be in lawsuits of the grieving widows,orphans,etc...
There heart is in their wallets. Some of them should have been bankers so they could foreclose on the widows and orphans after they sue them and take all their money. Fred messed up making them all go to law school.

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