Cal Thomas: Phelps' outrageous speech not protected

Dear editor,

Regarding his piece on our funeral picketing case before the Supreme Court, Cal Thomas is the hypocritical voice of the false prophets of doomed-america. They love to lay hard speeches on anyone who obeys God’s standard (Jude 15).

In the past he has written in favor of our position that homosexuality is a sin, because it made him feel holy. Now, he stridently opposes our message because we’ve touched his idol. He worships the dead. Many false prophets do; professional mourning is good business.

You selfish brutes fill up the airwaves with words that convince your fellow man to disobey God. Thereby you bring their destruction. You will call for the mourning women and teach your daughters to wail!(See Jer. 9:17-21.) You’ve brought this nation to the condition described in Revelation 18, becoming the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Read the words! Those are just a small snippet of the many powerful descriptions in the Scriptures of the imminent destruction of this rebellious land. Stop pretending God doesn’t judge! If you disobey him, he will curse you!

Thomas turns to a self-proclaimed stiff-necked atheist Jew, non-lawyer Nat Hentoff, to assure him that any disturbance at a religious event is not protected. But you all know we don’t disturb anything – except your dark consciences with words.

Per our usual practice, we stood over 1,000 feet from the church in the case at issue, and no one going in to that funeral even saw the picketers. Meanwhile, routinely false prophets, media, militant-military members, other officials including politicians, veterans and citizens pile up immediately outside the building, flapping their impotent flags and mouths, making a major ruckus. So don’t pretend you care if these death-watches are disturbed. You’ll take all manner of chaos and noise around funerals, so long as the words make you feel better about the crimes you’ve committed against God.

Then he repeats the lying saw,“you can’t yell fire in a theater.� Wrong! Here are the words from the Supreme Court:“The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic,� Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47, 52, 39 S.Ct. 247, 249, 63 L.Ed. 470, 473 (1919); emphasis added. If the bloomin’ theater is on fire, you’d better yell fire! Otherwise don’t pretend you give two hoots about your fellow man, while you stand their smugly watching him burn to death!

The column is disingenuous and disserves the readers. The only way to silence the lawful peaceful faithful words of Westboro Baptist Church is to rip up the blessing God gave you called the First Amendment, and to uproot settled law. Admit that’s what you want, because you hate how God is dealing with this nation and that we plainly say his wrath is pouring out on you for your sins. Stop pretending we ever acted outside the bounds of the constitution.

Margie Phelps
Thankful and humble picketing member of Westboro Baptist Church
Topeka, KS

Hey Ms. Phelps. Guess what? SIN is also protected by the constitution. That's right. You're hilarious. You push people farther from God and say you are doing His work! If you put as much energy into winning the lost as you do to sending people to hell you could be the catalyst of a great revival. Do the world a favor. Tell the world the truth-God loves them amd wants to SAVE them from their sins!

free speech has nothing to do with religion. that the phelps klan take full advantage of their 1st admendment rights, shows that they do believe in their country and do not count on their hateful god to get things done. the phelps klan is an abomination to decency, but they still have the right to free speech when on American soil. any curtailing of this right, would be the end of this country.

For once I am in agreement with something Cal Thomas wrote. All true Christians should stand up and renounce the false "Christianity" of the Phelps. They are hateful people.

I had to laugh at OSG's blurb. Well, I guffawed really.

OSG says: "Guess what? SIN is also protected by the constitution" And again: "God loves [everyone] and wants to SAVE them from their sins".

That is so childish OSG. That sounds like milk rather than meat. Dust off the ol book pal, and try to get a clue. But you are right OSG. Most folk follow your lead... for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Have you never read? Sin is the TRANSGRESSION of the LAW! Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1Jn 3:4

Sin isn't a sodomite sodomising in sewer rat heaven OSG. That's just disgusting. Sin is the TRANSGRESSION of the LAW. My Master said; "it's an abomination". So He made a LAW.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Sin is not protected in your Constitution OSG ... your beautiful LAW? If your law were to wink at transgressors of the law, then, as Bush said. Your Constitution is just 'a "goddamned piece of paper".

Folk are about to find out, and are finding out; that their hollywood, wall st obsession with satanic sin, has caused them to BREAK my Masters LAW. We were all warned about that over and over... Resist the Devil, and he will flee from you.

Saving you from sin OSG, is just you repenting, and OBEYING THE LAW. Don't let some Christ rejecting Jew, or filthy hell-bound limp-wristed sodomite pedofile priest, tell you different.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Mat 5:18

My Master paid the penalty for our breaking laws OSG. Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Rom 6:2.

You need to start opening your mouth OSG, nice and LOUD. Get on side with those serving my Master. You better tell your sodomite friends the partys over. There is only the stink from the fires of sodomite hell, curling up their nostrils for all eternity. And that, on a good day.

Hey OSG; my Master ain't gonna save you from your sins. Grow up! The only way he could do that was to MAKE YOU KEEP HIS LAW. Yeah, He would need to whip the ass off ya. Beat you bloody. Thrash you into line. And He will do so for some. Luk 12:47

If you want to be saved from your sins OSG; OBEY the LAW. Who know's, perhaps some fruit may grow. Bingo.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; Mat 13:41

The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether. Psa 19

Margie Phelps wrote:

Dear editor,
Regarding his piece on our funeral picketing case before the Supreme Court, Cal Thomas is the hypocritical voice of the false prophets of doomed-america.
Margie Phelps
Thankful and humble picketing member of Westboro Baptist Church
Topeka, KS

Fred always came off to me not as someone whose goal was to go to prison for his ideals, but for the hot steamy forced manluv. But that's just my opinion.

Phineas wrote:

My Master said; "it's an abomination". So He made a LAW.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Yea, but most of the time I am more concerned about people humming during others "special time of the month", polyester cotton blends and eating crablegs. Those are the abominations that really piss me off.

What other abominations does the Bible specify? Of course, adultery (Lev 18:20), sex with animals (Lev 18:23), remarrying one's wife after she's had another husband in between (Deut 24:4), or approaching any woman and humming "Strangers in the Night" during the time of her "uncleanness" (Lev 18:19). Cross-dressing is out (Deut 22:5), and that includes Halloween costumes, slacks on women, bib overalls on little girls, or a wife wearing her husband's favorite Oxford buttondown. And more on buttondowns in a moment. The mixing of the seed of two different ‘kinds’- Lev 19:19
The mixing of seed within a single field - Lev 19:19, Deut 22:9
The mixing of two different fabrics within one garment - Lev 19:19, Deut 22:11
The mixing of work animals to perform a common task - Deut 22:10

Other abominations include tarot readings, glancing at your horoscope, trimming one's beard, and getting a tattoo, even if it says, "Mom" (Lev 19:26-28). Haughty eyes (Prov 6:17) and telling lies (Prov 6:17, 12:22) are big abominations. Being untruthful also includes false weights and measures (Prov 11:1), or any other dishonesty in business. "Everyone who acts unjustly is an abomination to the LORD your God" (Prov 11:16).

What do abominators have for dinner? Rare steaks off the grill (Lev 17:10), Lobster Newburg at the Krebs and crab cakes in Baltimore (Lev 11:10), a rack of ribs at the Dinosaur Bar-B-Que (Lev 11:7).

Sterling Silver wrote:

For once I am in agreement with something Cal Thomas wrote. All true Christians should stand up and renounce the false "Christianity" of the Phelps. They are hateful people.

I also agree, it's time for christians to stand up for our rights( I mean real christians)

To MARGIE PHELPS. What in this world do you expect to gain by picketing a funeral? Do you not have compassion for these families? Do you think your church has authority over God? God is in charge and will always be, we cannot judge man thats his job. He will judge us all on judgement day. What we are on this earth for, is to tell others about God, how to obey his will, help others in need. I would suggest you take your bible to your church and read it. If you can find anywhere in it that says we can protest and try to make others live, like we want them too, I sure would like to read it. God is love, he does not want people to hate one another. I don't approve of gays but I can talk to them and tell them, what the bible says about that, I can't make them change and neither can you, God will deal with them on judgement day, the same as he will judge you and I. So dosen't it make more sense to leave all this in God's hands and not try and do his judging for him, that is something he has told us not to do. Why send our souls to hell for disobeying his will. God says to love one another as I have loved you. God allowed wars, even demanded it in some cases. So please don't put all these families through all this protest, at a time when they feel like their world has come to an end. We are to have compassion for them. Did you have someone killed in New York on 911? I am sure if we wasn't over fighting in these countries we would be fighting them here. What you gonna do when they bomb us again? I guess we can ask them not to do it again and they will go home and leave us alone. I pray you will read this and think on these things.

allie topeka wrote:

free speech has nothing to do with religion. that the phelps klan take full advantage of their 1st admendment rights, shows that they do believe in their country and do not count on their hateful god to get things done. the phelps klan is an abomination to decency, but they still have the right to free speech when on American soil. any curtailing of this right, would be the end of this country.

Bullsh*t!"believe in their country", that's a joke! They denergrate the very people who gave them the right to "free speech". If our Supreme Court sees this the way you do, God help us all!

Since Westboro is classified as a Church, do they not pay taxes? If not...they should.

Sam said: "we cannot judge man".

Paul the Apostle said: I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.

Sam; get it right pal. YOU cannot judge. Stop projecting your cowardly sinful way on others.

Phineas wrote:

Sam said: "we cannot judge man".
Paul the Apostle said: I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
Sam; get it right pal. YOU cannot judge. Stop projecting your cowardly sinful way on others.

I am not judging, we are judged by the word of God, I ask to give me book chapter and verse, that give you church people the right to judge and make trouble for others. Thats not what the bible says, we are to love one another, Again I do not judge,I know what the bible tells me to do and I do the very best I can to live a christian life. Stop and think what you are doing? go to your bible and read, don't take the word of your leader,

Sterling Silver wrote:

For once I am in agreement with something Cal Thomas wrote. All true Christians should stand up and renounce the false "Christianity" of the Phelps. They are hateful people.

I as a true servant of God,renounce the false prophets of the westboro baptist church.I am of no denomination but a true child of God.
And these are the words that my Lord has given me for you.You are an abomination to him, a stench in his nostrils.People beware of these false prophets.For there teachings will take you to hell.When the time comes they will be left behind and then they will beg and cry and say but Lord I did every thing you told me.He will say go from you den of inquity I knew you not.They follow a man made master not the Lord.

Margie Phelps wrote:

Dear editor,
Regarding his piece on our funeral picketing case before the Supreme Court, Cal Thomas is the hypocritical voice of the false prophets of doomed-america. They love to lay hard speeches on anyone who obeys God’s standard (Jude 15).
In the past he has written in favor of our position that homosexuality is a sin, because it made him feel holy. Now, he stridently opposes our message because we’ve touched his idol. He worships the dead. Many false prophets do; professional mourning is good business.
You selfish brutes fill up the airwaves with words that convince your fellow man to disobey God. Thereby you bring their destruction. You will call for the mourning women and teach your daughters to wail!(See Jer. 9:17-21.) You’ve brought this nation to the condition described in Revelation 18, becoming the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Read the words! Those are just a small snippet of the many powerful descriptions in the Scriptures of the imminent destruction of this rebellious land. Stop pretending God doesn’t judge! If you disobey him, he will curse you!
Thomas turns to a self-proclaimed stiff-necked atheist Jew, non-lawyer Nat Hentoff, to assure him that any disturbance at a religious event is not protected. But you all know we don’t disturb anything – except your dark consciences with words.
Per our usual practice, we stood over 1,000 feet from the church in the case at issue, and no one going in to that funeral even saw the picketers. Meanwhile, routinely false prophets, media, militant-military members, other officials including politicians, veterans and citizens pile up immediately outside the building, flapping their impotent flags and mouths, making a major ruckus. So don’t pretend you care if these death-watches are disturbed. You’ll take all manner of chaos and noise around funerals, so long as the words make you feel better about the crimes you’ve committed against God.
Then he repeats the lying saw,“you can’t yell fire in a theater.� Wrong! Here are the words from the Supreme Court:“The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic,� Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47, 52, 39 S.Ct. 247, 249, 63 L.Ed. 470, 473 (1919); emphasis added. If the bloomin’ theater is on fire, you’d better yell fire! Otherwise don’t pretend you give two hoots about your fellow man, while you stand their smugly watching him burn to death!
The column is disingenuous and disserves the readers. The only way to silence the lawful peaceful faithful words of Westboro Baptist Church is to rip up the blessing God gave you called the First Amendment, and to uproot settled law. Admit that’s what you want, because you hate how God is dealing with this nation and that we plainly say his wrath is pouring out on you for your sins. Stop pretending we ever acted outside the bounds of the constitution.
Margie Phelps
Thankful and humble picketing member of Westboro Baptist Church
Topeka, KS

Margie you are just plain stupid and I think you realize that all of us know that. I did need a good laugh just before I say my prayers to the real God and fall asleep knowing he is watching over me....You provided me a great laugh. It should be against the law for you to breathe the same air that we breathe. Your mother should have aborted you the min she discovered she was pregnant with another of the devils children.

<<<Suggesting that a member of the military died because God is judging America for the way it treats homosexuals is worse than outrageous. It is the moral equivalent of crying "fire" in a crowded theater when there is no fire, which by the way is not protected speech.>>>

HAHAHA. Now that's silly. Falsely crying "fire" may get people injured. Not so with these churchmen and their signs. They annoy people but harm no one.

Margie and Shirley and all of WBC, Read 1Corinthens chaper 13 verse 1-4. Though I speak with the toungues of men and have not charity (love), I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. and though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries,and all knowledge, and though I have faith, so I could remove mountains, and have not charity,(love) I am nothing. and though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity,(love) it profiteth me nothing. Charity suffered long,and is kind, charity envieth not, charity vanteth not itself, is not puffed up. Also 1 cor.13 and verse 13,and now abideth faith,hope,charity,these three, the greatest of the three is charity. These verses comes from the King James version. Please take time to read these scriptures.

WBC and Phelps family:

Love is NOT;

· Legalistic in its attitude toward others.

· A Finger pointing criticizer / condemner

· Holier than another

· A money grabber from the poor and hurting

The two great commandments love God and love neighbor as self.

Margie Phelps wrote:

Dear editor,
Regarding his piece on our funeral picketing case before the Supreme Court, Cal Thomas is the hypocritical voice of the false prophets of doomed-america. They love to lay hard speeches on anyone who obeys God’s standard (Jude 15).
In the past he has written in favor of our position that homosexuality is a sin, because it made him feel holy. Now, he stridently opposes our message because we’ve touched his idol. He worships the dead. Many false prophets do; professional mourning is good business.
You selfish brutes fill up the airwaves with words that convince your fellow man to disobey God. Thereby you bring their destruction. You will call for the mourning women and teach your daughters to wail!(See Jer. 9:17-21.) You’ve brought this nation to the condition described in Revelation 18, becoming the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. Read the words! Those are just a small snippet of the many powerful descriptions in the Scriptures of the imminent destruction of this rebellious land. Stop pretending God doesn’t judge! If you disobey him, he will curse you!
Thomas turns to a self-proclaimed stiff-necked atheist Jew, non-lawyer Nat Hentoff, to assure him that any disturbance at a religious event is not protected. But you all know we don’t disturb anything – except your dark consciences with words.
Per our usual practice, we stood over 1,000 feet from the church in the case at issue, and no one going in to that funeral even saw the picketers. Meanwhile, routinely false prophets, media, militant-military members, other officials including politicians, veterans and citizens pile up immediately outside the building, flapping their impotent flags and mouths, making a major ruckus. So don’t pretend you care if these death-watches are disturbed. You’ll take all manner of chaos and noise around funerals, so long as the words make you feel better about the crimes you’ve committed against God.
Then he repeats the lying saw,“you can’t yell fire in a theater.� Wrong! Here are the words from the Supreme Court:“The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic,� Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47, 52, 39 S.Ct. 247, 249, 63 L.Ed. 470, 473 (1919); emphasis added. If the bloomin’ theater is on fire, you’d better yell fire! Otherwise don’t pretend you give two hoots about your fellow man, while you stand their smugly watching him burn to death!
The column is disingenuous and disserves the readers. The only way to silence the lawful peaceful faithful words of Westboro Baptist Church is to rip up the blessing God gave you called the First Amendment, and to uproot settled law. Admit that’s what you want, because you hate how God is dealing with this nation and that we plainly say his wrath is pouring out on you for your sins. Stop pretending we ever acted outside the bounds of the constitution.
Margie Phelps
Thankful and humble picketing member of Westboro Baptist Church
Topeka, KS

You all need to get off the drugs . Ur trippin ,gonna call you Tripy from here on . Shit happens and it's not the doings of god. What is it when shit goes down bad for you ? Is it god then ?
They need to send you all to Iraq an see how long you last talkin your shit and waving ur signs there . I think ur heads would be a rollin .