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Second Circuit Court of Appeals

Judges ask Supreme Court to hear New Haven case

Six of the 13 judges on a federal appeals court in New York have asked the nation's highest court to hear a reverse discrimination case filed by 20 New Haven firefighters.

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oh boy

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Jun 16, 2008
 
this should be interesting
live in nh

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why can't people who scored the highest get promoted regardless of race? new haven is pathetic in its attempts to apease minorities
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you either know the correct information about being a firefighter and you get a promotion. If they did not score high enough, do they qualify to be firefighters in the first place. Race has nothing to do with your ability do succeed at your job. I hope the judge has common sense and rules in favor of the 20 hard working men who proved they deserve a promotion.
cmon now

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Not for anything, I would rahter have someone who is well qualified no matter what the race, color or creed instructing their peers on how to save me!! Obviously the people who did not score high enough should not be promoted.....why should the people who studied their butts off and actually learn and understand the text be discredited??? The firefighters who scored well obviously know their stuff and are more than qualified to lead the department....but lets have someone who is less qualified cry like a baby and get their own way and completely destroy whatever morale is left in the NHFD...way to get your fellow firefighters to look up to and respect you!!!
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Jun 17, 2008
 
THE WORD MINORITY SHOULD NOT BE USED ANY LONGER - I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE GETTING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE. WE SHOULD GET OUR PROMOTIONS AND JOBS BASED UPON OUR ABILITY, NOT BASED UPON OUR RACE. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE - THERE IS A BLACK MAN IN THE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE RIGHT NOW - I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE CLAIMING DISCRIMINATION. OBAMA IS PAVING THE WAY TO PROVE AGAINST DISCRIMINATION.
CT Lifer - I hope

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Jun 17, 2008
 
With a name like Obama, I thought he was Irish? LOL. But seriously, he doesn't even call himself black, haven't you heard? He's "Multiracial" which I guess is the new term we'll have the media try to force into our minds.
Typical

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Jun 17, 2008
 
Lets see the test, New Haven. What exactly made it unfair to Blacks, but ok for Hispanics and Whites. I didn't realize fires could be racists, or turned into racism. This is a pathetic gesture on NH's part. Cosntantly standing up for blacks is going to destroy NH. Everyman for himself, no need to give preferential treatment to one group - that is patently unfair.
A Duh

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Jun 17, 2008
 
Typical wrote:
Lets see the test, New Haven. What exactly made it unfair to Blacks, but ok for Hispanics and Whites. I didn't realize fires could be racists, or turned into racism. This is a pathetic gesture on NH's part. Cosntantly standing up for blacks is going to destroy NH. Everyman for himself, no need to give preferential treatment to one group - that is patently unfair.
Unfortunately the people who should be running the department, you know, the ones who actually know and love what they do, don't have the opportunity to b/c of the political aspect of the stupid hiring/promotion process. The political idiots have to make sure that the hiring and promoting is racially balanced (P.S whinig and crying is not going to gain respect).....How about we hire and promote those that are truly qualified to do the job!! DUH!! There's an idea!!
southeaster

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Jun 18, 2008
 
It seems no one among the public is taking the City of New Haven's side in this case - goes to show ya how out of touch these liberal judges are. The above poster hit the nail on the head - liberals are warped and suffer from a mental disorder. Probably some childhood trauma or some such crap which makes them angry and bitter toward everything that is good in this country, including its traditions, among them: EARNING your way up, not demanding it be handed to you. The ones who didn't bother studying and who failed whined. That's what liberal judges love to listen to: whiners. Behind every left wing judge is someone who used to get beaten up at recess in the fourth grade.
A Duh

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Jun 19, 2008
 
The funny thing about this is that there were quite a few "minorities" & caucasians that did not score very well and they didn't whine, or complain or sue anyone, they took it like big boys and girls, sucked it up and chalked it up to the need to study harder the next time around.....they didn't play the race card!!!
southeaster

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A Duh wrote:
The funny thing about this is that there were quite a few "minorities" & caucasians that did not score very well and they didn't whine, or complain or sue anyone, they took it like big boys and girls, sucked it up and chalked it up to the need to study harder the next time around.....they didn't play the race card!!!
BRAVO - good point. The losers, whiners and lazies are always the troublemakers, costing expensive lawsuits and soaking the taxpayers. But playing the race card in this country has become a profitable thing - which is why all the parasites are backing Obama.

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I cannot believe there is a city full of judges; who have denied all of your civil rights. You are the ones I see whining. You will "CRY" to the U.S. Supreme Court before allowing any AA to achieve in the EuroState. I'm sure the latins you speak of are nice and obedient, like a pet, the way CT likes them to be.

Trust me, you cannot, BEGIN to know what having your Civil Rights being denied to you, is about.
For example, if you were black (in CT) you would have been denied your Habeas corpus; which would have resulted in your case NEVER seeing the light of a courtroom. Now that's being denied civil rights. What is this, your third time around with a different group of Judges? Must be nice.

Again, in a State which denies Civil Rights and Habeas corpus to AA's so freely and openly; here are CA (Caucasian Americans), "crying" that their civil rights are being denied to them.

On the other hand, I have great respect for the job you do; and give you tremendous credit for having the courage to do it because I would not run towards danger, I like most people, would run away from it. I'll be watching for the decision.
EliWatcher

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live in nh wrote:
why can't people who scored the highest get promoted regardless of race? new haven is pathetic in its attempts to apease minorities
Doesn't this make you feel so much better when you hear " don't worry, the NHFD is coming". The guy in charge of saving me is the idiot from the bottom of the list. I can see the lawsuits now. New Haven, what a treasure. Criminal cops, unqualified fire officers and barely literate civil servants. Can't afford a trip to South Africa? Visit New Haven to see what its like.
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Knottie wrote:
I cannot believe there is a city full of judges; who have denied all of your civil rights. You are the ones I see whining. You will "CRY" to the U.S. Supreme Court before allowing any AA to achieve in the EuroState. I'm sure the latins you speak of are nice and obedient, like a pet, the way CT likes them to be.
Trust me, you cannot, BEGIN to know what having your Civil Rights being denied to you, is about.
For example, if you were black (in CT) you would have been denied your Habeas corpus; which would have resulted in your case NEVER seeing the light of a courtroom. Now that's being denied civil rights. What is this, your third time around with a different group of Judges? Must be nice.
Again, in a State which denies Civil Rights and Habeas corpus to AA's so freely and openly; here are CA (Caucasian Americans), "crying" that their civil rights are being denied to them.
On the other hand, I have great respect for the job you do; and give you tremendous credit for having the courage to do it because I would not run towards danger, I like most people, would run away from it. I'll be watching for the decision.
Thanks idiot. Keep up this line of thought and you'll qualify for Chief. You take a moron who got a 60 on the test and put them over someone who got a 97 because of race. Well damn public safety as long as no ones feelings are hurt. So when that well qualified African American does come along and get the job on his merit alone, what do you think the public response will be? Oh, we know how you got your job Mr. Quota. This type of garbage is what prevents ANY minority from ever being taken at face value as a qualified individual. If you can't pass the test- try again. If they sued to get the job because they were unqualified, it's only right the qualified people sue for the effort they put into passing it, black or white.

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Jun 22, 2008
 
The Post of EliWatcher is a bit convoluted and tends to ramble. My posts are from my perspective. Personally, I don't know that I ever filled any Afirmative Action or EEOC quota. Contrary to popular belief some AA's want to know that we were given the position BECAUSE I WAS BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE THAT APPLIED. Not because of my color or because of my being a woman.

However, in RACIST, foreign lands, like CT, I see how Afirmative Action is necessary.

"CORRUPTICUT" IS NEITHER FAIR, NOR EQUAL. LARGE PARTS OF IT DOES NOT EVEN RESEMBLE AMERICA, AT LEAST NOT ANY CURRENT DAY AMERICA. Before any CT Residents start with the, "Well, why don't you move; if you don't like it here." I DON'T HAVE TO MOVE! It is not, why don't I move back to America, but rather, CT needs to except the reality that, although it is appearing to be one big NURSING HOME", CT is not EUROPE. So stop trying to nestle a EuroState here in New England. I know you probably saw New England, and it gave you ideas...but, No!

As I stated before, which I notice you had no comment about; if you were an AA in CT, you could have had a valid case all you wanted, YOU WILL BE DENIED YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE CRIMES COMMITTED BY THE STATE OF CT; OR THE CRIMES OF ANY OTHER ENTITY COMMITTED AGAINST YOU IN THE STATE, BROUGHT BEFORE A COURT OF LAW. FURTHER METHODS WOULD BE IN EFFECT, TO BE SURE THAT ALL INFORMATION RECEIVED IS USED TO HELP THE STATE CONTINUE ITS EURORACIST, FASCIST AGENDA; AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, THAT FOR ANYONE WHO DARES NOT COMPLY; OR ATTEMPTS TO SPEAK OUT, AND AGAINST THIS *ULL*HIT, RETALIATORY PUNISHMENT WILL BE SWIFT.

I base this view on my own experiences and what I have seen here in the "Nut"meg State in the few years I've been here. Your Racist, Fascist, Sexist; you deny civil rights; and have invalidated habeas corpus.

Although, I still have a great deal of respect for the work firemen do; you guys sound a little bit absurd to me.
EEO

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Jun 26, 2008
 
"KNOTTIE" states: "You will "CRY" to the U.S. Supreme Court before allowing any AA to achieve in the EuroState." What an unmitigated moron you are. All any "AA" had to do to "achieve" here is do whatever everyone ELSE is required to do: pass the damn test. And that means getting up off your ass to study for it like the high-scoring candidates did. Stop blaming white society for your failures. You are given the SAME opportunity as everyone else. You don't take advantage of it; you don't pick up a goddamn book and read, you fail tests and then you blame the "Europeans" or "Whitey". No wonder you are a dismal failure and will never amount to squat.
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